Most over rated games/series of all time?

Xluna

I'd go for, Halo series, Mortal Kombat 3, FFXIII,FFXII Modern Warfare 2, Tomb raider series,Wipeout series, Ridge Racer 5 onwards.

o1s1n

Ah Tomb Raider 1 and Wipeout 2097 were great important ps1 games.

Mortal Kombat and Halo would be big ones alright. Totally over rated. Mario Kart would be my own person entry.

CathalDublin

o1s1n wrote: »

Mario Kart would be my own person entry.

Killer Instinct Gold N64 utter rubbish

batari

O1s1n, you're gonna have to be locked in a room with mariokart one of these days.;)

o1s1n

Under all those iconic Mario characters is just a boring cart racing game. I've always found Micro Machines to be a million times more fun.

landsleaving

God of War series does nothing for me. It's too slow, and I hate having to wallop a button over and over just to open a box, let alone kill a boss. Kratos is about as interesting as a piece of stale bread too.

If I hated games like Devil May Cry and other God of War style games it would make sense to me why people love it so much, but I like them. GoW just falls flat for me. Maybe people just really really like pointlessly over the top violence over gameplay?

I never got into the 3d metroid games, despite all attempts to. I mean there was nothing else on the wii worth playing so I tried, but it broke me, just boring backtracking around the place. Don't know why I bothered I didn't like the previous ones. 2d is so much better.

Xluna

landsleaving wrote: »

I never got into the 3d metroid games, despite all attempts to. I mean there was nothing else on the wii worth playing so I tried, but it broke me, just boring backtracking around the place. Don't know why I bothered I didn't like the previous ones. 2d is so much better.

I prefer the 2-D Metroid games too,but then again I tend to prefer to 2-D everything. Nothing else on the Wii worth playing? What about Zelda,Mario Galaxy and Mario bros wii? Have you played Madworld or House of the dead:Overkill?

landsleaving

Xluna wrote: »

I prefer the 2-D Metroid games too,but then again I tend to prefer to 2-D everything. Nothing else on the Wii worth playing? What about Zelda,Mario Galaxy and Mario bros wii? Have you played Madworld or House of the dead:Overkill?

I'd gotten rid of it before most of those came out I only played zelda, which was great, and a handful others (Madden, Godfather) which were fun but not amazing. It's the curse of early adoption, though there's still not enough really good games to justify owning a wii again imo.

o1s1n

Ah I dunno, I quite like my Wii. I don't play it all that much, but it's nice to have it there when I fancy making a tit of myself playing Warioware:Smooth Moves.

Retr0gamer

landsleaving wrote: »

If I hated games like Devil May Cry and other God of War style games it would make sense to me why people love it so much, but I like them. GoW just falls flat for me. Maybe people just really really like pointlessly over the top violence over gameplay?

Well God of War is just a button masher with over the top violence. I still like it but can see where you are coming from. However Devil May Cry and stuff like Ninja Gaiden and Bayonetta are much more complex. It isn't about the over the top violence it's about the steep learning curve and mastering the combat system to get through the game.

For me it's the Halo series, MGS4 which really is a terrible game, Robocop vs. Terminator, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark (influential but aged so badly), the Darkness off the top of my head.

pinksoir

o1s1n wrote: »

Under all those iconic Mario characters is just a boring cart racing game. I've always found Micro Machines to be a million times more fun.

Ah that's crazy talk. Mario Kart was an amazing game. It's all about the Battle Mode.

o1s1n

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Robocop vs. Terminator.

You have it the wrong way around. RvT is an underrated not overrated

pinksoir wrote: »

Ah that's crazy talk. Mario Kart was an amazing game. It's all about the Battle Mode.

/snore. :P

Give me furious Micro Machines multi player any day instead.

Retr0gamer

RvT is like Contra except crap. When I played it recently again I thought it wasn't that bad until I got to the part where everything is a terminator and the game becomes a complete sure. My review: **** sandwich.

Xluna

Retr0gamer wrote: »

For me it's the Halo series, MGS4 which really is a terrible game, Robocop vs. Terminator, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark (influential but aged so badly), the Darkness off the top of my head.

Yeah I downloaded the trial for Perfect Dark. I could'nt understand what the fuss was is about. Compare to SSF2HD for a game that still ages well.
Mario64 is another one I forgot about. Alot of N64 games were hyped just because it was the start of 3-D.

o1s1n

Every game with a gun that moves to the left is like Contra tbh. You're just not cultured enough to appreciate its brilliance.

It's okay, you will some day.

I do remember you saying you liked the soundtrack. The truth comes out after a few beers, eh?

Jack burton

HALO!!! my god i hate it!

Retr0gamer

I was impressed with the sound samples it used :P I didn't like that it was the same music for the whole game though!

DirkVoodoo

The Sims, purely because it's an awful game that has broken all sorts of sales records and churned out uninspired expansion pack after uninspired expansion pack.

All those teenage girls have a lot to answer for.

I mistakenly bought the Sims 3 after reading a glowing review. I found it hard to spot the gameplay differences between it and the first one. I ended up with a Sim rockstar who was showering and going to the toilet for most of the day.

After that: Guitar Hero. Nothing is more annoying than the noise of that guitar or drumset click/thudding from the front room. Argh!

Andrew76

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Goldeneye and Perfect Dark (influential but aged so badly)

I'm confused, what has how a game ages got to do with it being overrated or not? Goldeneye was by far the best console FPS at the time, especially for multi-player. It was a brilliant game, definitely not overrated. If you're comparing it to the latest FPS these days then that's not a fair comparison, 3D has changed so much it can't compete.

Xluna wrote: »

Yeah I downloaded the trial for Perfect Dark. I could'nt understand what the fuss was is about. Compare to SSF2HD for a game that still ages well.
Mario64 is another one I forgot about. Alot of N64 games were hyped just because it was the start of 3-D.

It's much easier for 2D games to stand up well over time and please tell me you're not saying Mario 64 was overrated?

I do agree with Halo getting a mention in this thread though, I never thought much of it when it came out.

Retr0gamer

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

I mistakenly bought the Sims 3 after reading a glowing review. I found it hard to spot the gameplay differences between it and the first one. I ended up with a Sim rockstar who was showering and going to the toilet for most of the day.

I hope you are prepared for Sera's wrath.

Retr0gamer

Andrew76 wrote: »

I'm confused, what has how a game ages got to do with it being overrated or not? Goldeneye was by far the best console FPS at the time, especially for multi-player. It was a brilliant game, definitely not overrated. If you're comparing it to the latest FPS these days then that's not a fair comparison, 3D has changed so much it can't compete.

If you play it now it's a bad game. Unlike something like Megaman 2 or Robotron 2084 which are as good as the day they came out. It's pverrated because there's still delusional people that think it's the best FPS ever made.

Another overrated series are the Donkey Kong Country games. The prerendered look looks awful and the games weren't anything other than average platformers.

Xluna

Andrew76 wrote: »

It's much easier for 2D games to stand up well over time and please tell me you're not saying Mario 64 was overrated?

Graphically yes, but I don't think it's easier for 2-D games to age better when it comes to gameplay.

Mario 64;I'm afraid so. I played every Mario platform game and loved them but when I first played Mario 64,a few months after it's release, I was massively dissapointed. It was'nt the fact that it was 3-D. Ocarina of time was 3-D and I still love it. I just did'nt think much of the gameplay. I got it again on the DS but I still feel the same way. I just traded it in. The first Goemon game on the N64 was similiar to Mario 64 and I enjoyed it way more. Interesting how Konami reverted to it's 2-D roots for it's N64 sequal.

Retr0gamer

Hmm. I'm different. When I got my N64 I played through Mario 64 again and still thought it was a fantastic game, one of the best ever made. I played Geomon a few months later and thought it had aged badly and felt very primitive. Most N64 games have aged terribly but for me Mario 64 isn't one of them. I never really enjoyed the DS version of Mario 64. the controls weren't right and there were game ending bugs one of which I came across in hte new stuff.

Joe Musashi

Sonic Adventure

Retr0gamer

I agree. I played Sonic Adventure 2 years ago when I got my first Dreamcast. It was terrible. Spent the entire time bouncing off the scenery. It's almost as bad as the modern 3D sonic games.

Andrew76

What about Road Rash? Seem to remember it was very popular but I could never see the attraction myself (should I run for cover?). Super Hang-On or Enduro Racer were much better bike games I thought.

Vs

Come to think of it, what does the "Rash" part of it actually mean?

Welease

I'm probably gonna get flack for this...

but the Street Fighter series, and pretty much anything in the Nintendo/Mario type genre..

Retr0gamer

Welease wrote: »

I'm probably gonna get flack for this...

but the Street Fighter series, and pretty much anything in the Nintendo/Mario type genre..

You are sick, wrong and disgust me. It must be hard being a soulless husk.

Welease

Retr0gamer wrote: »

You are sick, wrong and disgust me. It must be hard being a soulless husk.

I liked Zelda.. can we be friends again?

I just never liked the cutsey characters in Mario games.... then again, my fav char in a game is Klepto from Quazatron so I prolly lack any taste

Retr0gamer

The mario games aren't about the character, it's the gameplay which is pretty damn near perfect.

Warren3

I never liked or got into the tomb raider series............

Welease

Retr0gamer wrote: »

The mario games aren't about the character, it's the gameplay which is pretty damn near perfect.

Well that depends on the person Take Mario cart for example, having to play with dinosaurs or whatever doesn't draw me in.. I preferred to play something like Rock n Roll racer, or Offroad racer etc.

I was never a big fan of straight platform games, so the core Mario series did nothing for me (nor did Sonic for that matter, but I thought Sonic was more interesting).

Retr0gamer

Warren3 wrote: »

I never liked or got into the tomb raider series............

To be honest the first one was the only good one, went to **** afterwards. Tomb Raider Legend was decent but the remake of the first one, Anniversary, was an absolute cracker.

komodosp

Not sure about all time but of the games I've played, it has to be Mortal Kombat... The blood and gore is fun at first and yes it had digitised photos for the characters, but soon the fights become a little boring and it's nothing like Street Fighter 2 (which it was "even better than" according to some) in terms of addictiveness or variety of characters or fun...

landsleaving

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Well I know I am going to get destroyed for this but I think Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 is far better than SF2. I also think the metal gear series are the most over-rated series ever followed closely by the FF series.

The splinter cell games are far better than metal gear. But then again I dont like the Japanese style I am a military hardware/tactics so Splinter Cell with its Tom Clancy license gets my vote.

Oh dear.

I'd start running. I don't think they've noticed yet...

Professey Chin

Andrew76 wrote: »

What about Road Rash? Seem to remember it was very popular but I could never see the attraction myself (should I run for cover?). Super Hang-On or Enduro Racer were much better bike games I thought.

Come to think of it, what does the "Rash" part of it actually mean?

Heathen!!

And Road Rash is what you get if you come off a bike and slide on the road.A rash off the road


My vote btw, Halo of course.Always Halo

Professey Chin

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Well I know I am going to get destroyed for this but I think Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 is far better than SF2.

......................I dont know what to say to this................ive lost all faith in mankind

Retr0gamer

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Well I know I am going to get destroyed for this but I think Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 is far better than SF2.

You have to be joking me. UMK3 has absolutely no merit to it. Strip away the not even impressive and silly gore and the underlying game is absolute ****. People still play SF2 in the fighting game community and UMK3 is seen as a joke.

Jack burton

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

My vote btw, Halo of course.Always Halo

+1, Halo is garbage! And plus they are starting to rape the francise raw now and yet all the fanboys think its cool!

lets just sit back an wait for a Halo RTS!

Retr0gamer

Well to me the graphics in UMK3 are horrendous, the animation is really poor and the digitised graphics have dated terribly. Gameplay is really poor. The combo system is truly awful with those silly 'dial-a-combos' and every characters is basically the same with the only differences being special moves. Compare that to SF2's much better more cancelling combo system which gives the player access to numerous combos unlike the 2 or 3 in UMK3 that are predetermined. There's also much more to the game, waiting on openings, getting knockdowns to press the advantage with cross up moves or jumping in with a 'meaty' attack. There's so much to the game that it just never really gets old if you are playing with a group. UMK3 is just thrash and falls apart when some one finds the cheesey tactics and can just hit the 'I win' button. SF2 is just the better game and there's really no arguing. You can say you prefer MK but even the no accounting for taste argument can't be used :P

Retr0gamer

The combos are definitely more complex than that and randomly jump kicking is going to get you killed fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Ioo6pR7I4

Doing those combos requires expert timing unlike MK which just requires you to input a string of button presses with no timing. I also think SF2 is a gorgeous looking game. The 2D art still looks amazing and the animation is really good although later games like Street Fighter 3 are better.

You could also check out dave sirlins tutorial videos on SSF2T that show you just how complex the game is.

As I said before there's a reason there's a competitive scene around SF2 over 20 years after it's release. It's still an amazing game. Nobody plays UMK3.

Retr0gamer

Well it's not the fact that nobody plays it, it's more the fact that the game has become a running joke in the fighting game community. Good games don't become running jokes and poster childs for how bad it can be in their fan communities.

I'll put it this way. The people that know their fighting games rank street fighter 2 as one of the greatest games in it's genre and mortal kombat is up there with Toshinden as one of the worst.

Then again I thought MK2 and 3 were better than SF2 until I actually took a little time to play SF2 and realised how amazing the game was and it's depth only to discover recently that there's even more to it.

you'll pprobably still be happy but getting into street fighter, learning it and getting involved with the irish fighting game community has been one of my best videogame experiences.

Jack burton

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Their is a Halo RTS its been out for over a year! BTW I love the halo franchise

oh christ I just had a FAIL/WIN, the most coveted type of post in all the world!

CiDeRmAn

Final Fantasy has to be the most overrated game series out there, I mean, they share little bar Chocobos, so why even put them together, then there's the whole battle system, which at times loks like badly rendered line dancing, then the effeminate hero, the bad guy who always seems to wear dark evil armour, just so you don't mistake him for a goodguy, feck it why not just wear white and black hats?
Never met a FF game that didn't make me sleep, and don't get me started about the cutscenes, snore snooze snore....
I don't care about her death, I don't care that it made people who think Sega tshirts are the height of fashion cry in front of their tvs, probably in their bedrooms...

Now, back to Halo! There's a game series to believe in!

ps, at least they didn't make any more Streets of Rage games, deary deary me!

Butch Cassidy

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Well I know I am going to get destroyed for this but I think Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 is far better than SF2. I also think the metal gear series are the most over-rated series ever followed closely by the FF series.

The splinter cell games are far better than metal gear. But then again I dont like the Japanese style I am a military hardware/tactics so Splinter Cell with its Tom Clancy license gets my vote.

Clancy's name on the Splinter Game is literally nothing more than a licence though is it? It means diddly to the end product as none of it is based on anything Clancy created (as far as I remember!)

Splinter Cell was obviously borne out of MGS as it went a step ahead with the stealth. There's stuff like the light/sound meter which is just infinitely better than MGS3's stupid "Go into the Menu screen, then camouflage, then select appropriate camo for where you're lying" meter. Metal Gear Solid really rests on its laurels too much to be considered that great a series. Each game offered something new but kinda half-baked. The second game probably had the most leaps and bounds cause the first was similar gameplay really to MG2 just in 3D.

Thing with Splinter cell is though its story was always crap I thought but that was good - it was about the stealth gameplay not the story which usually invovled some madcap Korean stealing secret plans for nuclear warheads or something. In the later games they tried making it more actiony with a gruff action man storyline which I thought was pants.

SC Conviction bares little resemblence to the earlier games like MGS4 does to its series.

Retr0gamer

Not anymore, Ubisoft recently bought the rights off him to use the Tom Clancy name on any game without any involvement from him.

Xluna

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Final Fantasy has to be the most overrated game series out there, I mean, they share little bar Chocobos, so why even put them together, then there's the whole battle system, which at times loks like badly rendered line dancing, then the effeminate hero, the bad guy who always seems to wear dark evil armour, just so you don't mistake him for a goodguy, feck it why not just wear white and black hats?
Never met a FF game that didn't make me sleep, and don't get me started about the cutscenes, snore snooze snore....
I don't care about her death, I don't care that it made people who think Sega tshirts are the height of fashion cry in front of their tvs, probably in their bedrooms...

Now, back to Halo! There's a game series to believe in!

ps, at least they didn't make any more Streets of Rage games, deary deary me!

Final Fantasy was a fantastic series from 3-10. Then it all went wrong.
It is true that the Japanese like their heros to be androgenous looking which is cool,I found it nice break from the western rpg neanderthal type hero,but I must admit it's becoming an old hat stereo type now. They're all starting to look like,and act like, clones.


As for MK vs SF2,anyone who played both these games can't say with a serious look on their faces that MK is the better game. The developer of MK said it would'nt have been popular had it not been for the gimmicky graphics and violence.Nuff' said.

Butch Cassidy

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Not anymore, Ubisoft recently bought the rights off him to use the Tom Clancy name on any game without any involvement from him.

That explains Conviction then!

CiDeRmAn

It's no harm having Mr Clancy divorced from gaming proceedings, it's not like his fiction is anything other than pro-american/fascist claptrap anyway. Read some when I was young dumb and ignorant, but I'd read almost anything other than that tripe now.
Give me Iain M or Alastair Reynolds any day!