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Passport for traveling by boat

  • 28-04-2010 9:49am
    #1
    auldnag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭


    Do you need your passport when traveling to the uk by boat or will my age card and driving licience be sufficient??


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  • #2
    Judgement Day
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Driving licence should be fine. Passport is not legally required but it pays to cover yourself if you look like a terrorist or a hippy. :D


  • #3
    GM071class
    Closed Accounts Posts: 105 ✭✭GM071class


    auldnag wrote: »
    Do you need your passport when traveling to the uk by boat or will mr age card and driving licience be sufficient??

    Thanks to the common travel area between Ireland & the U.K., and tyrannical airlines to deal with at Sea, there's no requirement.

    In fact any photo ID is enough, than again I've seen people getting through on Birth Certs and an Irish accent!!

    The Passport is great for getting through though, and you should, if you have one, bring it.


  • #4
    auldnag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭auldnag


    I have my passport its just that its out of date, but I have my national age card and my driving licence. I'm sure I'll be fine with that. thanks!


  • #5
    GM071class
    Closed Accounts Posts: 105 ✭✭GM071class


    auldnag wrote: »
    I have my passport its just that its out of date, but I have my national age card and my driving licence. I'm sure I'll be fine with that. thanks!

    More than enough,

    Bon Voyage.....


  • #6
    rameire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭rameire


    i was recently on the boat, took my driving license as its always with me, but it was never asked for or was never checked.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



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  • #7
    robd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 951 ✭✭✭robd


    rameire wrote: »
    i was recently on the boat, took my driving license as its always with me, but it was never asked for or was never checked.

    Yep, did a round trip with car to Paris 2 weekends ago to pick up the Missus who was stranded due to Volcano. Wasn't asked for any form of ID in either direction across the Irish Sea. Channel crossing obviously a different matter.


  • #8
    the_big_kahuna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭the_big_kahuna


    the only time I have ever needed a passport going to the UK was with those clowns Ryanair. They are the only ones who require it for UK travel which is beyond ridiculous


  • #9
    Cookie_Monster
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    the_big_kahuna wrote: »
    the only time I have ever needed a passport going to the UK was with those clowns Ryanair. They are the only ones who require it for UK travel which is beyond ridiculous

    why is it so ridiculous. you'd need it for every other country in the world anyway, why should mainland UK be any different. It's not like its any kind of hassle to bring one.


  • #10
    rainbowdash
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    why is it so ridiculous. you'd need it for every other country in the world anyway, why should mainland UK be any different. It's not like its any kind of hassle to bring one.

    It is hassle, its one more thing to worry about.

    Why is it ridiculous? Maybe because you walk or drive across the border into the UK and never be asked for one.

    The UK is different, its the only country stuck to us and vica versa.


  • #11
    Carawaystick
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    why is it so ridiculous. you'd need it for every other country in the world anyway, why should mainland UK be any different. It's not like its any kind of hassle to bring one.

    You don't need any passport to cross borders in the Schengen area
    You don't need any passport to cross the border here.
    You don't need any passport to move from one part of a country to another part of the same country usually
    So why would you need a passport to go to one part of a country from another country but not to go to another part of the same country?

    Public transport companies are free to require you to do anything legal as part of their terms, that's completely independent to any legal requirement on all people. I mean Ryanair require a passport for internal travel but there's no legal requirement to present ID on internal flights.

    It is a hassle to bring one if the govt are paying staff not to produce passports and you don't have one.
    It is a hassle to have to pay 75 euros extra plus the hassle of fulfilling the bureaucracy to get a passport.
    It's only hassle free if you have a passport.


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  • #12
    merengueca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭merengueca


    I've been travelling between Ireland and UK for 30 years, average 6/7 times a year. Never once had to show any form of identification when travelling by boat.


  • #13
    purplepanda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    Don't see the point myself in carrying a passport if you don't need to:rolleyes:

    No choice if flying or / & going to continental Europe but better off being left at home otherwise.

    One less thing to lose, carry about, or even get stolen & probably a pain in the butt to get replaced:(

    Debit card is more than enough ID in my experience:D


  • #14
    brandodub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭brandodub


    robd wrote: »
    Yep, did a round trip with car to Paris 2 weekends ago to pick up the Missus who was stranded due to Volcano. Wasn't asked for any form of ID in either direction across the Irish Sea. Channel crossing obviously a different matter.

    Entering Schengen passports required-absurd but we won't join till UK does:(


  • #15
    irishguy
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    auldnag wrote: »
    I have my passport its just that its out of date, but I have my national age card and my driving licence. I'm sure I'll be fine with that. thanks!

    If your still the same person you should be fine.


  • #16
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    You do not need any form of ID to cross the border between the UK and Ireland if you are a UK or Irish citizen. You don't even need a passport to cross the border between the UK and Ireland if that border happens to be via an airport, regardless of who transported you there.

    You only need the passport inorder for Ryanair to let you on the plane, and you only need some form of photo ID to get past the airport security guys and airside. Any border police between the UK and Ireland do not need to see any form of ID at all, unless they are trying to prove that your not a UK or Irish citizen.

    The carrier, being Stena Line or Irish Ferries I'd guess, do not need to see any form of ID.


  • #17
    Judgement Day
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    robinph wrote: »
    You do not need any form of ID to cross the border between the UK and Ireland if you are a UK or Irish citizen. You don't even need a passport to cross the border between the UK and Ireland if that border happens to be via an airport, regardless of who transported you there.

    You only need the passport inorder for Ryanair to let you on the plane, and you only need some form of photo ID to get past the airport security guys and airside. Any border police between the UK and Ireland do not need to see any form of ID at all, unless they are trying to prove that your not a UK or Irish citizen.

    The carrier, being Stena Line or Irish Ferries I'd guess, do not need to see any form of ID.

    It should be added that you are an extremely stupid individual if you choose not to carry valid ID when travelling to the UK from Ireland.


  • #18
    robinph
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    Judgement Day wrote: »
    It should be added that you are an extremely stupid individual if you choose not to carry valid ID when travelling to the UK from Ireland.

    Why?

    There is no requirement to carry ID on you when in the UK. The main difference I can think of is that you do need to carry your driving license on you when driving in Ireland, that is not a requirement in the UK. Otherwise you are free to go about your business without the need to prove who you are by any form of ID.*




    * Of course it makes some thing simpler if you do have ID on you, but that all depends on what your doing.


  • #19
    Judgement Day
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    robinph wrote: »
    Why?

    There is no requirement to carry ID on you when in the UK. The main difference I can think of is that you do need to carry your driving license on you when driving in Ireland, that is not a requirement in the UK. Otherwise you are free to go about your business without the need to prove who you are by any form of ID.*




    * Of course it makes some thing simpler if you do have ID on you, but that all depends on what your doing.

    I'm not trying to be smart here but my 51 years on the planet tells me if you go looking for trouble you will find it. It is better to be prepared for whatever UK police/emigration etc might throw at you than to find yourself in hot water.


  • #20
    corktina
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    the reason why you should carry ID (and preferably a passport) is that should you be suspected of a crime (such as speeding maybe) you can be detained until they can verify your ID...better to avoid that

    Just sailed into Cork on the MV Julia and we all had to show photo ID to get on the ship...never have to do that on the Rosslaire routes and I expect their keeness will wear off. Checked by both Police and Customs on arrival too!

    (Great ship by the way, very civilised, boarded two hours before sailing! saved around 260 miles of driving vs Rosslaire...)


  • #21
    Terrontress
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    Judgement Day wrote: »
    I'm not trying to be smart here but my 51 years on the planet tells me if you go looking for trouble you will find it. It is better to be prepared for whatever UK police/emigration etc might throw at you than to find yourself in hot water.

    The UK authorities are a lot more relaxed than the Gardai. Upon arrival in a UK airport such as Gatwick; you can skip past all the checks and queues if you have a boarding card from an Irish airport. In Dublin you have to queue with everyone else and have ID verified by the Garda Immigration Bureau. As an Irishman, I'd be more concerned about travelling from the UK into Ireland without proper ID than the other way round.


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  • #22
    irishguy
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    Terrontress wrote: »
    The UK authorities are a lot more relaxed than the Gardai. Upon arrival in a UK airport such as Gatwick; you can skip past all the checks and queues if you have a boarding card from an Irish airport. In Dublin you have to queue with everyone else and have ID verified by the Garda Immigration Bureau. As an Irishman, I'd be more concerned about travelling from the UK into Ireland without proper ID than the other way round.

    The word your looking for is organised. The Guards are not as organised as the UK Police. I once showed the wrong passport to a Guard at the imigration desk at Shannon, of a girl with long hair (I am male with short hair and a foot taller) he just glanced at it and waved me on.


  • #23
    Cookie_Monster
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    corktina wrote: »
    (Great ship by the way, very civilised, boarded two hours before sailing! saved around 260 miles of driving vs Rosslaire...)

    thats a lot of sitting around...

    irishguy wrote: »
    The word your looking for is organised. The Guards are not as organised as the UK Police. I once showed the wrong passport to a Guard at the imigration desk at Shannon, of a girl with long hair (I am male with short hair and a foot taller) he just glanced at it and waved me on.

    :D
    If you look vaguely Irish they generally don't care.


  • #24
    Fratton Fred
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    I caught the Holyhead to Dun Laoghaire ferry on Friday. This is the first time I have gone as a foot passenger and the first time I have been asked for I'd (by GIB at DL), they were happy to accept a UK driving licence.


  • #25
    corktina
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    thats a lot of sitting around...
    ...



    :.

    nope...was asleep in my bunk paid for by the petrol saving before we even left port...


  • #26
    corktina
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    Terrontress wrote: »
    The UK authorities are a lot more relaxed than the Gardai. Upon arrival in a UK airport such as Gatwick; you can skip past all the checks and queues if you have a boarding card from an Irish airport. In Dublin you have to queue with everyone else and have ID verified by the Garda Immigration Bureau. As an Irishman, I'd be more concerned about travelling from the UK into Ireland without proper ID than the other way round.

    hmm...you may not see them at LHR or LGW but they see you....


  • #27
    Terrontress
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    corktina wrote: »
    hmm...you may not see them at LHR or LGW but they see you....

    But not your passport.

    It is true that the GNIB people at Dublin airport portray a very bad image of Ireland. I heard one call a girl a f@cking g@b****e recently because she and her dad approached the booth together instead of one at a time. I suppose it is a horrible job sitting in those booths all day, hoping for an unsuspecting Aussie to queue up at the EU booth by mistake so you can shout at them.

    My knowledge of UK Police is limited to TV shows but they appear to be very clinical compared to AGS. Quote line after line of legislation with a smile on their face.


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