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Honour

  • 27-04-2010 6:41pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭


    Do you consider yourself to have honour.If you gave someone your word in this day and age,would it be considered to be worth anything.
    Would you suffer personal hardship to keep your word.
    Do you know any public/famous people that you consider to be honourable.
    Honour is deemed exactly what determines a person's character: whether or not the person reflects honesty, respect, integrity, or fairness. Accordingly, individuals are assigned worth and stature based on the harmony of their actions, code of honour, and that of the society at large.

    The reason i ask ,just finished reading a book today about the battle of agincourt.The french prisoners gave their word of honour to turn up a month later for imprisonment ,they all did so knowing some of them would never return home or die in prison.Nowdays you would think someone insane to give their word and not break it in these circumstances.Yes i do know ...different times,social constraints etc.

    And then i though of all the Bullsh!t going on in politics and banking etc.and thought would'nt it be great if we had people in these positions that had a sense of honour..........yea I know....pipedreams!.

    Is honour dead in todays world? 62 votes

    Yes..... is an outdated concept with no place in todays world
    0%
    No.....I try to be Honourable
    6%
    stovelidphasersStephentligSugarHigh 4 votes
    No....But its not for everyone.
    74%
    KarmaSpearWacker[Deleted User]Dravokivichfunk-youWibbsm5ex9oqjawdg2ibikostovelidThe_MinisterSkinfulldotsmanJuliusCaesarphasersChorcaiDr. BaltarOverhealGillingtonSplendour 46 votes
    Do what you have to to survive/succeed
    19%
    stovelidThe_MinisterphasersOverhealSelothminidazzlerJev/NHande hoche!pablomakaveliMrmoePraetorian SaighdiuirPaddy Samurai 12 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Do what you have to to survive/succeed
    voluntarily going to prison isn't honourable, it's fcuking stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    No....But its not for everyone.
    A samurai and his honor... :P


    I consider myself to be honorable, but that doesn't matter much. Does it? I have done some honorable deeds in my time but there are other times when I have done some dishonorable deeds. It all depends on the circumstances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Yes, your honour...:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Hari Kari anyone ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    she offered her honour and i honoured her offer


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    No....But its not for everyone.
    If you said you'd do something you do it.
    Isn't so hard after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    No....But its not for everyone.
    Definitely still alive. Small example being last week when I was selling something on Adverts and I had agreed a price and then got PM's and more offers offering more money, but I had made a deal and agreed with the buyer so I honoured that deal.

    Not exactly sacrificing myself to save a nation but it's an example of how honour can be kept in todays society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Do what you have to to survive/succeed
    Honor is a extension of Trust, which is primordially ingrained into our psyche.

    Even animals understand basic forms of trust. My mother's cat knows that when I go to scratch its belly, I'm not trying to attack it, and he's incredibly docile about it. If I were another animal, or someone else had been abusing the cat by attacking him in the gut, he wouldn't be so trusting, and would probably attack me if I tried.

    Similarly a guide dog trusts its owner to take care of its basic needs while the owner trusts the dog to help them cross the road.

    I don't like it when people cut me off on the road. I've since decided that its only proper to allow a car in front of me that is signalling into my lane, to have the right of way; because I got sick of needing to change lanes only to have the bastard speed up to block me. Ultimately, tha vast majority of motorists trust one another on a subconcious level to look out for eachother, lest the driving experience become destruction derby.

    Plenty of other examples, I am sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Paddy Samurai


    Do what you have to to survive/succeed
    phasers wrote: »
    voluntarily going to prison isn't honourable, it's fcuking stupid.
    I agree, but i can still admire someone for keeping their word, regardless of the consequences to themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    she offered her honour and i honoured her offer

    .... and All Through the Night I Was Honor and Offer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    If I say i am going to do something I do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭Stephentlig


    No.....I try to be Honourable
    oops I voted for the wrong one grrrrr


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    I suppose it's just a matter of keeping your promise.
    Which you should if you can, unless you were lying


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Do what you have to to survive/succeed
    It is pointless to avenge the death of your father without a thorough grounding in the Ninja arts.

    Let it go for your own sake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Bolag_the_2nd


    No....But its not for everyone.
    the only thing i will ever own 100% that matters to me is my name, no way would i ever tarnish that, my word is my bond.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    No....But its not for everyone.
    I have done some honorable deeds in my time but there are other times when I have done some dishonorable deeds.

    I know exactly what you are saying there mate. possibly not for yourself, but when I was a kid I treated my folks like shít and when I got old enough to realise my mistakes I felt like an asshole having to apologise to them and am constantly to this day ashamed of myself in regards to the way I had treated them. In saying that, it's also cemented me to become the kinda guy I am today. They probably know... what I did was purely as a stupid kid that expected and wanted more then was due.

    In my opinion Honour and Respect are 2 fundemental traits that people should be able to hold for themselves / family / friends / work colleuges. No particular order... but still a nessecity. There's many friends I've had that have been able to help me through a few things and I've returned the favour when they required. I've helped a few friends out when they needed it, without them even asking for the help because I knew they needed it. There's some people I work with that I'm not too big into, but I seperate that opinion I hold and go through the day to get the job done without any un-needed búllshít.

    I don't demand it back, but it's mutually accepted between everyone that it's recognised with each time I give my friends and family a "nod / hand shake / hug / how are ya?"

    I still feel like shít for how I treated my parents and because of that, I'm determined not to be like that to anyone else. It's a good thing I learned that at home before I really fúcked up somewhere else... I've learned how to be the person I am not through an ideal mindset, but as a result my inter-person fúck ups. When I get round to having a few mini me's running around, I'm going to try and advise them of how I think people should honour and respect each other, but if I saw 1 coming, I'll try to push'em towards a fúck up. I've learned more being wrong then being right...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    I can just imagining the OP committing seppuku after forgetting to repay that crucial €2 to his mate.

    Been watching The Last Samurai too many times, have we? I bet you stand in front of your mirror practicing your moves. Less of the 'honour' crap, just call it 'keeping your promise'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    "Remember men, we're fighting for this woman's honour, which is probably more than she ever did!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    Do what you have to to survive/succeed
    "A man must have a code."

    This quote from The Wire is appropriate here i think.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    No....But its not for everyone.
    "A man must have a code." .

    A "code" you say...

    I'll consider you alright... until you proove me wrong...

    Does that work?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    No....But its not for everyone.
    Perhaps an apt quote from my man, Druss, the legend.
    Never violate a woman, nor harm a child.
    Do not lie, cheat or steal. These are things for lesser men.
    Protect the weak against the evil strong.
    And never allow thoughts of gain lead you into the pursuit of evil.
    Never back away from an enemy. Either fight or surrender.
    It is not enough to say I will not be evil. Evil must be fought wherever it is found.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    I never make a promise I know I can't keep and I never break a promise I've made. I decided I was going to stick to that when I was a young kid and so far, so good.


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