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'Change to proposed Lucan Luas line route planned'

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  • 27-04-2010 3:23pm
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    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    THE RAILWAY Procurement Agency (RPA) plans to change the route of the proposed Lucan Luas line, but said it does not intend to reopen public consultation on the project.

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    Plans for the line, which would run from Lucan in west Dublin to the city centre, were originally put out to public consultation in late 2007. The RPA received a record 2,300 submissions from the public, greater than the response for the entire Metro North project.

    The preferred route which emerged from this process was announced in October 2008. From College Green in the city centre, the 15km “Line F” would head west along Dame Street to Christchurch before joining the existing Red Line at Fatima. It would then continue along the Grand Canal before turning right on Kylemore Road and heading towards Ballyfermot and out of the city towards Lucan.

    In a letter sent to residents in Inchicore, the RPA said it now plans to change the route so that the Luas line could link up with the proposed final stop of the Dart Underground line.

    In the letter, the RPA said that at the time the original Lucan Luas selection process took place, the Dart Underground route was to end at Heuston Station. Iarnród Éireann subsequently decided to extend the line to Inchicore.

    The RPA and Iarnród Éireann have been working for a number of months to identify a way to provide a “viable interchange” between the two lines, the letter said. The proposed solution involves taking the line away from the canal and routing it through industrial lands east of Inchicore Village to meet the planned Dart station.

    A spokesman for the RPA said two information meetings would be held this week – at Liffey Gaels GAA Club, Ballyfermot, from 6pm to 9pm tonight, and at the Oblate Hall, Inchicore, at the same time tomorrow.

    The RPA intends to seek a Railway Order, planning permission to construct the line, from An Bord Pleanála next year. When the preferred route was announced in October 2008, the RPA said it would seek a Railway Order in 2010.

    The spokesman said there would “not be any significant delay” in development as a result of the route change. No date for its construction has been set.

    Inchicore on Track, a residents’ group which had been critical of a lack of consultation from Iarnród Éireann in relation to the site of the Dart Underground station, said it wanted public consultation on the route change.

    “This route change might be a no-brainer, and it seems logical, but what if we don’t agree with it?” asked group representative John Beck.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,475 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    is there not another thread on here or infrastructure about the public hearing of this? I'm sure I saw something on it


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    You just gotta love the Irish:
    “This route change might be a no-brainer, and it seems logical, but what if we don’t agree with it?” asked group representative John Beck.
    With "representatives" like this, what hope! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭FlameoftheWest


    murphaph wrote: »
    You just gotta love the Irish:

    With "representatives" like this, what hope! :rolleyes:

    I said it before and I'll say it again these public consultation things are just an open door to allow all kinds of lunatics and attention seeking halfwits to come in and make the world notice these fools before they vanish back into oblivion.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    there's another thread on this

    The Irish Times were slow on the uptake :)
    I said it before and I'll say it again these public consultation things are just an open door to allow all kinds of lunatics and attention seeking halfwits to come in and make the world notice these fools before they vanish back into oblivion.

    Keep saying it again and again, it still won't change the fact not doing public consultation is a direct route to the High Court!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭DWCommuter


    monument wrote: »
    Keep saying it again and again, it still won't change the fact not doing public consultation is a direct route to the High Court!

    True.

    But the public consultations and their orgasmic attraction for half wits and lunatics still manages to look very unattractive to those with some semblence of understanding. Having been to many of them, some of the things I've heard proposed by people would make you want to vomit in distress. And its no really unfair to say that they hold up things during this process as well.

    Its not a High Court we need, its a big raft for the halfwits and lunatics.:D


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Humouring the local loo laaas with an open day here and there is one thing. Humouring ad nauseum the insufferable an taisce and the loopy sociopathic and obnoxious econuts is quite another and that is where the serious money is wasted hiring these parasites as consultants on econuttery :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,312 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    Consultation as it stands is not working because it doesn't stop madness like four motorways through Meath but it will hold up something like this.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    dowlingm wrote: »
    Consultation as it stands is not working because it doesn't stop madness like four motorways through Meath but it will hold up something like this.

    Two motorways glancing off it on the way past
    One terminating there

    One motorway *serving* Meath. The "4 Motorways" is a Salafia/An Taisce spin, that is all.

    Also, as goes consultation processes, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in Meath against *any* of these motorways when planned. Even the hard shoulder protesters in Dunshauglin appeared to forget there was a consultation process...


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Two motorways glancing off it on the way past
    One terminating there

    Ah lads,lads,yiz`ll burst up the party....and remember the Royal County folk will finally get to be able to donate directly to Fianna Fail...oops sorry..I mean Pay a Toll.

    Much of the "Public Consultation" surrounding That element was,of course,not too public at all as it was so COMMERCIALLY SENSITIVE that the process must remain top-secret :rolleyes:


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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