Golden Root Herbal Viagra

lucanhoop87

first of all apologies if this topic has been dealt with before or if i posted it in the wrong forum, this is an awful big board ya know

right i've seen this pill advertised in the papers and in a couple of different condom machines, and i was wondering if anyone had used it before??

now i'm only in my early 20s and i've never suffered from erectile disfunction (thank god) so i have no medical grounds to enable me to get the real viagra.

but i would like to have something that could mean i wouldnt have to stop and recover for a while after the first time, basically (and forgive the crudeness) i would like to have the option to take something to keep me 'up' all night.

so has anyone ever taken it and would youse recommend it etc etc??

Nevyn

Golden root?

I know of golden rod and golden seal as herbs and know of their use in simples but not golden root and none of my botanical or herb lore references have anything on it.

Got a link to any info, esp what is in it and what the active ingredients are?

As for the not having to stop, I would say look at your general fitness/stamina levels and if you are serious about the lack of recovery time then look into the trantic practices of separating male orgasm from male ejaculation.

Herbal Deity

I suspected that the active component was Tongkat Ali, and googling seems to have confirmed this:

http://www.themanschoice.com/GoldenRootComplex.html

Eurycoma Longifolia, or Tongkat Ali, is native to Southeastern Asia and has been traditionally used as an aphrodisiac. It has become popular in male enhancement formulas after the results of a study that was done on middle-aged rats concluded that Eurycoma might increase sexual function. However, no human studies have been done. It is also believed that the herb can enhance strength and virility, and a side effect associated with its use is insomnia.

Few links I came across:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurycoma_longifolia

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23054

http://www.testingtongkatali.com/

http://portal.ics.trieste.it/MAPs/MedicinalPlants_Plant.aspx?id=613

It sounds interesting.

Dr Galen

so like, you really are like a herbal deity then......like it means something? I just thought you maybe had a fondness for a certain other type of herb. Well there ya go!

Anyway, I'm a little uneasy with a thread that goes too close to the medical advice dispensation, but lets let this one run for a bit, and see what discussion arises.

For anyone thinking of posting, no AH type responses please, and take the above 2 replies as your lead. We can't advocate the taking of a "medical" product here, but we can discuss experiences etc etc.

Cheers

DrG

Nevyn

ah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodiola_rosea

I'd know that under other names and not golden root.

Looking at the list of ingrediants tbh I would be more likely to pick out
http://www.smarthealth.ie/mini_packs/golden_root_complex/

Ingredients: Rhodiola rosea, Cynomorium Songaricum, Tongkat Ali, Leuzea Carthamoides Ext, Siberian Ginseng Ext, Schisandra Chinensis Ext, Schisandra Chinensis, Muira Pauma, Saw Palmetto, Damiana, Chuchuhuasi, Guarana Seed, Cayenne, Grape Seed Ext, Kwaopet.

I'd be more likely to pay not to the Ginseng, guarana and cayenne for being more active and I know that those 3 can certainly have an effect. This is such small doses make it far from 'vigra' like.

If a man was intrested in someting to boost his make engeryies then yes ginseng and green tea, go for it but it's going to do you bugger all good if your over all health is crap and you can't run the lenght of a foot ball pitch with out doing an impression of a fish out of water.

Herbal Deity

Guarana, Ginseng and Cayenne? None of them would jump out at me tbh.

I'm pretty sure that active ingredient in that, from a sexual point of view is tongkat ali, with the rest being stims or adaptogens, which will compliment the effect.

I don't really trust herbal (or "herbal" which can often be the case) blends sold in capsule form and marketed as the answer to all men's sexual problems, however.

Nevyn

I agree, but it seems some people are so sure that better living through chemicals and 'herbals' is they way to go.

Mrmoe

Tried it out of curiosity, it didn't have any real effect on me. I am always wary of such products. I have it in the back of my mind that if they were any way effective they would be regulated. It is not always the case but you can aszume by demand how godd a product is or not. I have tried others. It was more hit and miss. However, all the variation is probably down to the person taking it.

lucanhoop87

Mrmoe wrote: »

Tried it out of curiosity, it didn't have any real effect on me. I am always wary of such products. I have it in the back of my mind that if they were any way effective they would be regulated. It is not always the case but you can aszume by demand how godd a product is or not. I have tried others. It was more hit and miss. However, all the variation is probably down to the person taking it.

ok thanks, this is more the kind of response i was looking for, not a detailed discussion of individual ingredients

so you wouldnt recommend these then no??

Herbal Deity

From what I've heard, it's not like viagra, but rather a will increase your general arousal levels after taking it over a few weeks/months.

Wibbs

Herbal Deity wrote: »

Guarana, Ginseng and Cayenne? None of them would jump out at me tbh.

I recall reading that ginseng had a positive effect on erection strength and frequency above placebo. Nowhere near the viagra type drugs and it was a different mechanism at play I gather.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Are these things definitely herbal?

BZP was described as "herbal ecstasy" but was really just a different chemical.

Really wouldn't surprise me if these things are simply viagra with a molecule changed to avoid the prescription laws.

Herbal Deity

Possibly.

I reckon there are many different "golden root" capsules available all with slightly different ingredients, and there's every chance that there are RCs in some of them.

Wibbs

That's the problem with herbal type ingredients. Are they fully herbal and even if they are, they can vary massively in potency depending on processing and even differing strengths of the source material. A plant can produce more or less of a given set of chemicals depending on the soils and stresses on it. Ask any cannabis grower. You can increase or decrease yields by changing light levels and nutrient ratios and levels.

The other problem with herbs is their potency. Too many people think of herbs as somehow "natural" and safe. The common yew can kill you stone dead at very low doses.

I recall reading a medical chemist who was interested in herbs and she reckoned you needed even more expertise in some ways dealing with the variability of the herbal concoctions, though she did think some may be very valuable. I can say from personal experience that willow bark tea which contains the ingredient of aspirin salycylic(sp) acid is more potent at getting rid of headaches than a couple of aspirins. That said it tastes rank. Very bitter.

Latchy

MACA which can also be obtained in root form and help increase arousal / size of erections is another aphrodisiac supplement worth trying

Snowie

Thaedydal wrote: »

ah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodiola_rosea

I'd know that under other names and not golden root.

Looking at the list of ingrediants tbh I would be more likely to pick out
http://www.smarthealth.ie/mini_packs/golden_root_complex/



I'd be more likely to pay not to the Ginseng, guarana and cayenne for being more active and I know that those 3 can certainly have an effect. This is such small doses make it far from 'vigra' like.

If a man was intrested in someting to boost his make engeryies then yes ginseng and green tea, go for it but it's going to do you bugger all good if your over all health is crap and you can't run the lenght of a foot ball pitch with out doing an impression of a fish out of water.

Also things called Goji berrys are wonderfull they help improove blood flow through out the body.. There a bright red berry grown in china and there sun dried they taste very much like rasins and are really good for you...

Snowie

Wibbs wrote: »

I recall reading that ginseng had a positive effect on erection strength and frequency above placebo. Nowhere near the viagra type drugs and it was a different mechanism at play I gather.

It does, when i was living in snow lands i tuck it every day some times twice simply because i was so active snowboarding for 8 hours a day then doing an 8 hour shift in a night club really takes it out of you and found it a better subsitiute to a can of red bull or the likes ..

But chinsing is amazing stuff not to be thaught of as lightly because i think its aanything.. there some good and bad brands out there.... I think you need to way up you life style to a degree the really stronger doassages can leave you with a......... if your not doing anything all day and get any remote thaught of sexy time... :pac:

great stuff if your on the go to tho.....

lucanhoop87

Herbal Deity wrote: »

From what I've heard, it's not like viagra, but rather a will increase your general arousal levels after taking it over a few weeks/months.

ok thanks very much

can you recommend a product then to do what i want it to?? or does such a product even exist??

ChocolateSauce

It doesn't work. There's a reason Pfizer earns billions every year on Viagra, and that's because it is the only erectile dysfunction drug in the world which has been medically certified as legit.

A large number of people who have problems have those due to psychological reasons, which may disappear if a person thinks they are on a drug which works, ie a placebo.