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Wicklow Sugarloaf road sign parasitised?

  • 24-04-2010 11:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,064 ✭✭✭


    Driving past the Great Sugarloaf on the R755 towards Roundwood I noticed that one of the signs for the L1031 side-road had a big board attached directly below which read
    “PRIVATE PROPERTY
    STRICTLY NO TRESPASSING
    TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSECUTED”
    My first thought was that the route had somehow suddenly become a “private road”, but then I realised that was unlikely – it goes across the south of the hill all the way to the N11 on the other side, has a number of houses that side and provides what I presume is “agreed access” for walkers to the summit from a recently reinstated parking area. On further examination, the board presumably refers to the land on the corner of the road behind a ditch, as there is a similar sign on a gate a short distance up the road from it – looks like the corner may about to be “developed”(?); whatever the story, the owners seem to have developed a rabid fear of people squatting or frolicking on the scrappy area of semi-moorland. However I can easily imagine that first-time visitors looking for the L1031 for the popular short walk up the Sugarloaf might be puzzled and perhaps put off by the juxtaposed signs, even though the words “Private Road” as such do not appear. Maybe there’s no law against attaching private territorial messages to public road signs(?), but I would consider it cheeky at best and obnoxious at worst. Perhaps I’ll enquire with the Wicklow council if it stays there.

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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    i noticed that sign and thought it odd too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Mullaghteelin


    From Wicklow Co. Council, Litter and the Law: It is against the law to put up posters or signs on poles or structures in public places unless you have the written permission of the owner in advance. ;)
    the owners seem to have developed a rabid fear of people squatting or frolicking on the scrappy area of semi-moorland.

    If the owners are going to build a home (if that is even the case!) at the foot of well-known, high profile mountain, then they will have to be willing to tolerate the presence of a large number of strangers passing through the area.
    People have the right to protect their property, but they are building in the wrong place if they are going to be hyper-sensitive and paranoid about what is currently a patch of scrubland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭pirelli


    Driving past the Great Sugarloaf on the R755 towards Roundwood I noticed that one of the signs for the L1031 side-road had a big board attached directly below which read
    “PRIVATE PROPERTY
    STRICTLY NO TRESPASSING
    TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSECUTED”
    My first thought was that the route had somehow suddenly become a “private road”, but then I realised that was unlikely – it goes across the south of the hill all the way to the N11 on the other side, has a number of houses that side and provides what I presume is “agreed access” for walkers to the summit from a recently reinstated parking area. On further examination, the board presumably refers to the land on the corner of the road behind a ditch, as there is a similar sign on a gate a short distance up the road from it – looks like the corner may about to be “developed”(?); whatever the story, the owners seem to have developed a rabid fear of people squatting or frolicking on the scrappy area of semi-moorland. However I can easily imagine that first-time visitors looking for the L1031 for the popular short walk up the Sugarloaf might be puzzled and perhaps put off by the juxtaposed signs, even though the words “Private Road” as such do not appear. Maybe there’s no law against attaching private territorial messages to public road signs(?), but I would consider it cheeky at best and obnoxious at worst. Perhaps I’ll enquire with the Wicklow council if it stays there.

    4560933273_26d277ea6b_b.jpg

    Tresspassers cannot be prosecuted for simply tresspass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,506 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Saw that today as I was passing by .. like you say, it's not terribly obvious what it's referring to exactly, and in any case probably has zero legal standing anyway. I wonder though .. hasn't there been trouble in the past with travellers up at the car park at the base of the Sugarloaf? Maybe it's intended to deter them? (Fat chance!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    time to go up and cut it off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,064 ✭✭✭nomdeboardie


    Alun wrote: »
    ... I wonder though .. hasn't there been trouble in the past with travellers up at the car park at the base of the Sugarloaf? Maybe it's intended to deter them? (Fat chance!)

    That crossed my mind - the parking area was blocked off with ditching /stones a few years ago, probably in response to that, then a nifty little arch was built a few months ago to allow regular cars in! Perhaps the corner-owner put in a gate in their mud wall and had visions of it becoming a new traveller mecca :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,064 ✭✭✭nomdeboardie


    time to go up and cut it off.

    or append signs with, perhaps,
    "Careful Now"
    "Down With This Sort of Thing"

    down-with-this-sort-of-thing1.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    I'm shocked and appalled.

    112437.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,064 ✭✭✭nomdeboardie


    testicle wrote: »
    I'm shocked and appalled.

    112437.jpg

    Yeah, I can now confirm that Wicklow Council will be removing the jacussi from the planning permission as punishment

    Ahem; must return to adulthood now and...ah feck it, no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    Would someone like to report a bit of litter by bringing the sign to the relivant authoritory.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,064 ✭✭✭nomdeboardie


    maglite wrote: »
    Would someone like to report a bit of litter by bringing the sign to the relivant authoritory.

    if it's still there next time I pass by I may do my civic duty ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,506 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    if it's still there next time I pass by I may do my civic duty ;)
    I just drove by literally 30 mins ago, and it's gone, so it looks like either you, or someone else, already did! Come on, own up, who did it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Alun wrote: »
    I just drove by literally 30 mins ago, and it's gone, so it looks like either you, or someone else, already did! Come on, own up, who did it?

    Not me, it was still there yesterday at 2.30 or so when I passed on my way back from a lovely short hike in Glendalough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,064 ✭✭✭nomdeboardie


    Alun wrote: »
    I just drove by literally 30 mins ago, and it's gone, so it looks like either you, or someone else, already did! Come on, own up, who did it?

    Afraid it wasn't me either :o


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