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Lough Mask Current Dominant Fly Hatch & Fly Fishing Conditions?

  • 24-04-2010 9:21pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭


    Looking for daily current updates on the condition of dominant fly hatches on Lough Mask for 2010 .

    What type of fly?

    Amount of Fly?

    What date were you on the lake this year?

    How many rises did you see, or get to your fly?

    Where is the hatch on the lake?

    Temperature?

    Wind conditions ( Direction and strength)?

    Your method used? Dry or wet?

    How many fish caught and average size?

    Regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭fisherking


    I saw your youtube clip
    lots of dead fish there....:mad:
    you can whistle for your daily update


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    fisherking wrote: »
    I saw your youtube clip
    lots of dead fish there....:mad:
    you can whistle for your daily update


    what you dont see is all the fish i do release.

    if you have nothing of interest or value to this thread can you please not post as it is off topic .


    regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭cj salmon


    you should show the ones ye release then in your video,always good to see it,there may have been far too many fish killed in one sitting in some of your videos ,, instead of just showing killed fish show some being released and the people from the west might part with info,and i have to say i admire how many fish you catch,so you are obviously a gifted angler with experience,so a little input to the forum ie: sharing your technical abilities/experience rather than posting pics of dead fish then asking for details on another lake where the regulars fear that this sort of thing might take place with no catch and release whatsoever ,maybe you wouldnt get stick then,,,just a thought.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    fisherking wrote: »
    I saw your youtube clip
    lots of dead fish there....:mad:
    you can whistle for your daily update

    what you dont see is all the fish i do release.
    if you have nothing of interest or value to this thread can you please not post as it is off topic .

    I thought Fisherking's post was on topic. He was talking about why he will not answer the OP's desire for information.

    If you enjoy fishing, why don't you fish and find out? The pursuit's supposed to be the fun of fishing. So if you're not catching all the time that would give you a fresh challenge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    cj salmon wrote: »
    you should show the ones ye release then in your video,always good to see it,there may have been far too many fish killed in one sitting in some of your videos ,, instead of just showing killed fish show some being released and the people from the west might part with info,and i have to say i admire how many fish you catch,so you are obviously a gifted angler with experience,so a little input to the forum ie: sharing your technical abilities/experience rather than posting pics of dead fish then asking for details on another lake where the regulars fear that this sort of thing might take place with no catch and release whatsoever ,maybe you wouldnt get stick then,,,just a thought.


    i do not carry a camera or have someone to video me all the time... how can one show videos on request unless previously asked for the content before fishing.


    99% of the trout i release are under 2.5 lb , sure there would be no point in videoing that.


    If someone wanted to know what my tactics are ... just ask.


    If someone only showed releasing fish then there would be only ever one fish in a photo? the videos were about showing some good days on a lake, that people have been saying has not been FLY fishing well for years.


    Regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    coolwings wrote: »
    I thought Fisherking's post was on topic. He was talking about why he will not answer the OP's desire for information.

    If you enjoy fishing, why don't you fish and find out? The pursuit's supposed to be the fun of fishing. So if you're not catching all the time that would give you a fresh challenge.


    I dry fly fish, i know the lake is fishing rubbish till the temperature heats up, i would have to wet fly the lake. I hate wet fly. ~(Casting Blind)

    If i am to spend money travelling to Mask for a week, I will only go when the conditions are right, or else i might as well just practise casting in the back garden as the chances of catching large fish on dry are nill at the moment.

    if i lived on the lake yes i would dry the lake last weekend and this... but i dont ...

    has the duck fly come up yet?

    much buzzer or olive ?

    Fisherking or should i say FishFinger .. as he seems to point a lot... was off topic as he does not posses the knowledge of Mask and just decided to make noise.







    Regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Compton


    troll...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    mupchease wrote: »
    troll...

    I honestly would not pay money to troll. Sitting in a boat driving along with the engine noise.. all day to catch a few fish on a spinning rod.

    i would prefer the peace and quiet, and a warm day with a bit of a fly hatch.

    do you fly fish?


    regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭cj salmon


    i do not carry a camera or have someone to video me all the time... how can one show videos on request unless previously asked for the content before fishing.


    99% of the trout i release are under 2.5 lb , sure there would be no point in videoing that.


    If someone wanted to know what my tactics are ... just ask.


    If someone only showed releasing fish then there would be only ever one fish in a photo? the videos were about showing some good days on a lake, that people have been saying has not been FLY fishing well for years.


    Regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing



    in fairness i dont care if you show fish being released or not because i wont watch anything you put up after seeing you kill salmon on a trout fishing trip without a gill tag in sight,,, the majority of anglers i know would never kill fish to that extent,,thats fly,spin,course,you name it.you dont need to photo every fish,,im sure your word is good enough,if you feel you need to video each landing or something,,it seems you have to kill fish ,to fill your bag, photo them and hence build your ego on forums such as this ,,without giving any info to people who might be interested on what you used etc,to catch.
    i was merely stating that people might help you out if you did show that you dont slaughter trout all the time,and maybe a little input into your tactics.
    was just stating the facts as to why you get a hard time on this and other ( ahem UK forums,with your alter egos,dryfly girl,etc:) , ,but dont know why i was trying to be friendly as ye dont come across as very friendly yourself.
    and you wont win any friends be repeatdly posting the same thread,,definatly the moderators anyway.
    glad you dont fish rivers in the east !!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    cj salmon wrote: »
    in fairness i dont care if you show fish being released or not because i wont watch anything you put up after seeing you kill salmon on a trout fishing trip without a gill tag in sight,,, the majority of anglers i know would never kill fish to that extent,,thats fly,spin,course,you name it.you dont need to photo every fish,,im sure your word is good enough,if you feel you need to video each landing or something,,it seems you have to kill fish ,to fill your bag, photo them and hence build your ego on forums such as this ,,without giving any info to people who might be interested on what you used etc,to catch.
    i was merely stating that people might help you out if you did show that you dont slaughter trout all the time,and maybe a little input into your tactics.
    was just stating the facts as to why you get a hard time on this and other ( ahem UK forums,with your alter egos,dryfly girl,etc:) , ,but dont know why i was trying to be friendly as ye dont come across as very friendly yourself.
    and you wont win any friends be repeatdly posting the same thread,,definatly the moderators anyway.
    glad you dont fish rivers in the east !!!!

    are you going to bring up the UK fly forum LOL... Those English stocky basher C&R Extremists got there asses kicked, they all fish the same and only fish out of books and mags... they tried so hard to pull apart my tactics and failed miserably . and banned everyone i know. god love them... LOL

    Did you see the DryFlyFfishing supporters page that was set up by the UK members... wanting me back.... little to say the admin shut down that thread. where is the freedom of speech on there?

    The UK forum admin has been influenced by C&R fanatics and bullies that want everyone else to have the same views as them.

    just because i don’t show me fishing rivers in the east does not mean i don’t

    i dont see where in any of my posts that i am unfriendly?


    this thread is about lough mask current fly hatch conditions... can we all stick to it? and the other threads are about other lake conditions. different locations have diferent conditions, so they are different threads.


    CJSalmon if you want to talk directly to me, you can private message me, as this thread is not for airing thoughts about C&R. :)


    for anyone that does not know what C&R is ==== Catch & Release

    Regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Compton


    Wow... You really think you're cool. Why even bother posting on forums?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭cj salmon


    i got the repeated thread thing wrong i admit ,misread the threads ,i thought they were all the same lough,, :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭snow ghost


    Looking for daily current updates on the condition of dominant fly hatches on Lough Mask for 2010 .

    What type of fly?
    Amount of Fly?
    What date were you on the lake this year?
    How many rises did you see, or get to your fly?
    Where is the hatch on the lake?
    Temperature?
    Wind conditions ( Direction and strength)?
    Your method used? Dry or wet?
    How many fish caught and average size?
    Regards,



    The duckfly have essentially come and gone - fished mask late March / Early April... middle of day before any takes (warmest part of the day). Plenty of trout rising on Mask and other smaller lakes, at dusk, but they were fairly stationary and not moving around - due to the temp - just waiting in one spot for what ever dropped their way.

    Mask is huge and has its own microclimate, especially regarding the wind - it can be perfectly calm one minute and then like the Atlantic the next, the Mountains create wind there. The hatches can be concentrated anywhere.

    If you want to fish Mask, best just to take a trip down and book a local ghille if you want to boat fish - its a very dangerous lake with hidden rocks, if you don't know it you're in for serious trouble, you'd be safer going out on the sea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    snow ghost wrote: »
    The duckfly have essentially come and gone - fished mask late March / Early April... middle of day before any takes (warmest part of the day). Plenty of trout rising on Mask and other smaller lakes, at dusk, but they were fairly stationary and not moving around - due to the temp - just waiting in one spot for what ever dropped their way.

    Mask is huge and has its own microclimate, especially regarding the wind - it can be perfectly calm one minute and then like the Atlantic the next, the Mountains create wind there. The hatches can be concentrated anywhere.

    If you want to fish Mask, best just to take a trip down and book a local ghille if you want to boat fish - its a very dangerous lake with hidden rocks, if you don't know it you're in for serious trouble, you'd be safer going out on the sea.


    The shallows / rocky areas are the interesting bit as they heat up quicker . more nymph coming to the surface for dry fly. Mask seems to be shallower than other similar sized lakes, more food for the trout this cold year/ it may come into condition sooner than other lakes.

    What effect did the cold spring have on the hatch? Is the hatch a week or two behind usual? is the hatch strong compared to other years ?

    Regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭ironbluedun


    DryFlyFishing this is an interesting thread but I don’t think you will get too much detailed information on public forum like this.
    To be honest, and I am not having a go at you, I would be very reluctant to share detailed information with less conservation minded anglers. But on this occasion I don’t want to lecture on catch and release that is for each angler and their own conscious to deal with, quite simply it’s a matter of education.
    You made one point about not liking wet fly fishing; I tend to agree with you on that point. It is a point for debate it self. Trout seem to have changed their feeding habits and I don’t believe that traditional wetfly is as productive as it once was. Just put the trout back to get them on the dries when they are a little bigger the next time. :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    mupchease wrote: »
    Wow... You really think you're cool. Why even bother posting on forums?

    we had a cold spring... i am looking for information on which lake is coming into condition for dry fly first. I want to maximise the potential surface feeding, as we all spend alot of money fishing, and i dont want to have to extend a holiday because i picked the wrong lake for a specific date/week.


    Regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    DryFlyFishing this is an interesting thread but I don’t think you will get too much detailed information on public forum like this.
    To be honest, and I am not having a go at you, I would be very reluctant to share detailed information with less conservation minded anglers. But on this occasion I don’t want to lecture on catch and release that is for each angler and their own conscious to deal with, quite simply it’s a matter of education.
    You made one point about not liking wet fly fishing; I tend to agree with you on that point. It is a point for debate it self. Trout seem to have changed their feeding habits and I don’t believe that traditional wetfly is as productive as it once was. Just put the trout back to get them on the dries when they are a little bigger the next time. :D:D


    i only keep what i will eat on holidays. I only kill a fish around 2.5lb-4lb as any bigger they become pale fleshed and i release all trout under 2.5LB they will grow to be 2lb -3.5lb next year... do you not think?

    (and never go over my quota) - and no i do not fish to quota - if anyone comes off a irish lake with one or two decent fish around 3lb they are doing very well on Dry Fly.

    If the west wants tourism, people will spill the beans on how well there lakes are fishing?

    the information is not just for me, it is there for everyone to read. even the foreign fishermen who pay thousands to come over to Ireland.

    Regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭ironbluedun


    Yes I agree with that. The difference is I would not bother eating them these days but that's my choice. it is ok to take one or two now and again for personal use, nothing wrong with that. to kill trout for commercial reasons or to just give them away is wrong. Do you only fish in the west? the cold spring has defo had an affect i expect the mayfly to be generally late this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭stylie


    are you going to bring up the UK fly forum LOL... Those English stocky basher C&R Extremists got there asses kicked, they all fish the same and only fish out of books and mags... they tried so hard to pull apart my tactics and failed miserably . and banned everyone i know. god love them... LOL

    Did you see the DryFlyFfishing supporters page that was set up by the UK members... wanting me back.... little to say the admin shut down that thread. where is the freedom of speech on there?

    The UK forum admin has been influenced by C&R fanatics and bullies that want everyone else to have the same views as them.

    just because i don’t show me fishing rivers in the east does not mean i don’t

    i dont see where in any of my posts that i am unfriendly?


    this thread is about lough mask current fly hatch conditions... can we all stick to it? and the other threads are about other lake conditions. different locations have diferent conditions, so they are different threads.


    CJSalmon if you want to talk directly to me, you can private message me, as this thread is not for airing thoughts about C&R. :)


    for anyone that does not know what C&R is ==== Catch & Release

    Regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing


    What a great post, laughed my ass off....those English stockie bashers are some of the finest fly anglers Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England have to offer, be the fish wild or stocked. There are no C&R fanatics, just people me included that dont like seeing videos of some fool glorifying the killing of wild trout and showing not the slightest bit of respect for his quarry. I kill fish but dont need my ego massaged posting about it all over the internet. I kill my fish quickly and dont fool around with the flat of a knive blade.

    And you never answered my questions on the other forum, where are your catches that weren't during the Mayfly ?
    And the threads started that wanted you back were started by yourself under different user names, genius idea by the way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    stylie wrote: »
    What a great post, laughed my ass off....those English stockie bashers are some of the finest fly anglers Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England have to offer, be the fish wild or stocked. There are no C&R fanatics, just people me included that dont like seeing videos of some fool glorifying the killing of wild trout and showing not the slightest bit of respect for his quarry. I kill fish but dont need my ego massaged posting about it all over the internet. I kill my fish quickly and dont fool around with the flat of a knive blade.

    And you never answered my questions on the other forum, where are your catches that weren't during the Mayfly ?
    And the threads started that wanted you back were started by yourself under different user names, genius idea by the way.


    have a look at the thread called (Banned) http://www.flyforums.co.uk/general-fly-fishing-discussion/64120-banned.html look at the date that member and others signed up to that forum????

    i only went onto that site about a month ago, because you lot sent me threats. I would have never have been on a forum until you lot brought my attention to your presumptuous views that are miss guided ( you lot presume alot and know nothing about what i do ....)

    if those guys are the finest fly fishing men Brittan and Ireland has to offer, it is no wonder people are complaining that they are not catching big wild fish on the fly, as they have been taking advice from them. LMAO

    I did answer your question. and there is enough information even on this thread to answer it.

    i fished april last year and many before , did not bother this year because of the cold. and if you want to see the quality of fish i got there is a vid...



    Regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭stylie


    dj likes the controversy and created that to stir things up. you created several users trying to validate your points.
    Who are complaining they are not catching big fish on the fly ?
    And critcising anglers when you yourself only fish when trout are on the top and easy to catch is a bit rich. It doesnt get any easier catching trout on dries in May. Video some ceanis dry fly fishing and get back to us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    stylie wrote: »
    dj likes the controversy and created that to stir things up. you created several users trying to validate your points.
    Who are complaining they are not catching big fish on the fly ?
    And critcising anglers when you yourself only fish when trout are on the top and easy to catch is a bit rich. It doesnt get any easier catching trout on dries in May. Video some ceanis dry fly fishing and get back to us.


    ceanis - well im quite good at that lol.. but i only fish ceanis emergers :) to much of the other stuff on the surface....

    Trout see the body trying to break through the surface better ... and go after your fly not the dry dead millions on the surface.

    Trout prefer nymphs to fly... easier target.

    i am not criticising anglers.. i am not just going to take there miss guided presumptuous comments/abuse/ threats/ etc...... They should not abuse me and i will not educate them.

    and with regards to me setting up multiple users on that forum... the admin blocked my computer so how could i set up another...

    do you not think my mates would have a go at them. If there is anyone on here that wants a go at them they are welcome... they all think the same so its like talking to one person.. with one view... (They are called the (usual suspects)) - forum bullies.... well if you read the posts you will see very quickly what they are like... and who they are.... my ID on that forum is Dryflyfishing ... so you can see all my posts or threads i was in. By the way the UK forum admin is as bad as the usual suspects as he probably gets free fishing and has to side with them ... so you will probably get banned very quickly if you do not agree with them. There problem is they have big egos... and it is hard to teach an old dog a new trick.... they should set up a forum called vintageflyforum.com

    when i mean old... i mean there tactics.... they fish out of the same book...


    Even if my videos wetted the appetite of 100 anglers from abroad it would inject €200,000 into local small town economy.


    Regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭snow ghost


    DryFlyFishing,

    To find answers to the info you seek, all you have to do is contact the Western Fisheries Boards or tourism businesses that cater for anglers in the region and they'll happily tell you. You may also find some other recent reports on other websites like castlebar.ie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    snow ghost wrote: »
    DryFlyFishing,

    To find answers to the info you seek, all you have to do is contact the Western Fisheries Boards or tourism businesses that cater for anglers in the region and they'll happily tell you. You may also find some other recent reports on other websites like castlebar.ie.


    thanks.. ill keep an eye on it...:)

    Regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    Yes I agree with that. The difference is I would not bother eating them these days but that's my choice. it is ok to take one or two now and again for personal use, nothing wrong with that. to kill trout for commercial reasons or to just give them away is wrong. Do you only fish in the west? the cold spring has defo had an affect i expect the mayfly to be generally late this year.

    i fish west east and south depending on the time of year and what type of fish im after.

    Will this current warm weather speed a mayfly hatch along?

    Has anyone seen mayfly on the lake yet? Even one or two?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    did you see the view counter on this thread... i have a feeling the USUAL SUSPECTS from the UK forum ... have joined this forum lol.... they must be akin to get there member verification password... well they followed me around over there and they will over here... dont let this post put you off... lets chat ... sheep ... i think this video is fitting ... LMAO...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdXyjDVwSmw


    :D


    Regards,

    http://www.youtube.com/user/DryFlyFishing


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    Obnoxious video that. Unless it was made in the 1970-80s. Catches of 8 trout all dead ... large fish all dead .. dead salmon with no tag ....
    Thanks for a perfect reminder to all that look at your video just why information on fishing places and conditions should not be published in public, for all to see, or by PM to those not known personally to be in favour of catch and release.
    Novices who are free with the info please take note.
    Stone age bring-a bag-of-fish-home angler is alive and well and posting on Boards this week!

    What exactly are you trying to prove with the inflammatory posts DFF? That you can get reasonable people enraged? Every teenager thinks that's cool for a short period until they learn better.

    Or are you one of those people that goes into a pub and deliberately knocks over the pint resting in front of the biggest guy present?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    coolwings wrote: »
    Obnoxious video that. Unless it was made in the 1970-80s. Catches of 8 trout all dead ... large fish all dead .. dead salmon with no tag ....
    Thanks for a perfect reminder to all that look at your video just why information on fishing places and conditions should not be published in public, for all to see, or by PM to those not known personally to be in favour of catch and release.
    Novices who are free with the info please take note.
    Stone age bring-a bag-of-fish-home angler is alive and well and posting on Boards this week!

    What exactly are you trying to prove with the inflammatory posts DFF? That you can get reasonable people enraged? Every teenager thinks that's cool for a short period until they learn better.

    Or are you one of those people that goes into a pub and deliberately knocks over the pint resting in front of the biggest guy present?
    calm down... :)go read the uk forum before you judge.. and i mean all of what i posted... or did you come from there?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    I'm asking based on what is here. Why all the dead fish photos?
    Those abuses are what destroyed Irish trout fishing from what it was in the 70s and due to many other factors it still hasn't recovered.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    coolwings wrote: »
    I'm asking based on what is here. Why all the dead fish photos?
    Those abuses are what destroyed Irish trout fishing from what it was in the 70s and due to many other factors it still hasn't recovered.


    those photos are from a lake that is in better condition than 100 years ago...

    i only killed a few fish and released tons...

    do you not know the corrib is gtting better year on year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭cj salmon


    i fish west east and south depending on the time of year and what type of fish im after.

    Will this current warm weather speed a mayfly hatch along?

    Has anyone seen mayfly on the lake yet? Even one or two?


    hope you dont kill salmon or seatrout in the east,,as most our rivers are closed,,and from your videos ,it seems that you probably would!!

    why no gill tags on salmon caught in videos???????????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    cj salmon wrote: »
    hope you dont kill salmon or seatrout in the east,,as most our rivers are closed,,and from your videos ,it seems that you probably would!!

    have not killed a seatrout in 4+ years and they are so small over there now over in the west... sure who would bother..... and i dont fish west for salmon. and i dont fo east at all.. only for a now and again... it is over fished.. but there are some great spots....

    the east has better seatrout than the west... nothing like the UK ..but they hit 8lb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭cj salmon


    there where salmon in your lough fishing videos no?


    WHY NO GILL TAGS ON DEAD SALMON?

    plenty of 3lb seatrout seen in my local last year,catch and release only,as it should be for all seatrout im sure you would agree!!

    have you fished in the east for salmon?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    cj salmon wrote: »
    there where salmon in your lough fishing videos no?


    WHY NO GILL TAGS ON DEAD SALMON?

    plenty of 3lb seatrout seen in my local last year,catch and release only,as it should be for all seatrout im sure you would agree!!

    have you fished in the east for salmon?
    CJ your east

    all my fish get tagged... but tagges are ugly in photos .... try to hide.. look at this vid you might just see one..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5SqWdaqrT0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭cj salmon


    CJ your east

    all my fish get tagged... but tagges are ugly in photos .... try to hide.. look at this vid you might just see one..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5SqWdaqrT0


    what??? have you fished in the east for salmon was the question,,just curious,,and your reluctant to answer wht salmon killed had no gill tags and the fact is that you basically broke the law,correct me if im wron g but salmon in your lough videos had no gill tags ????
    and gill tags are to remain on the fish till processing them at home or whatever??
    you had tags on a salmon river,,prob because you needed a licence before you can be granted to fish for the day.

    the other salmon caught by dry fly fishing for trout,,( a lucky and welcome accident),where still killed and have no tags,,,that sort of thing could really enrage salmon fishers do you not think


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    those photos are from a lake that is in better condition than 100 years ago...

    i only killed a few fish and released tons...

    do you not know the corrib is gtting better year on year?

    Unless you are fishing Corrib for 40 years you don't know what good fishing is. Irish lough trout are still recovering from damage done during the 1980s and after when stocks were reduced by over 90% in some loughs. Increased angling pressure, reduced water quality and roach competition did the damage. But the trout are coming back slowly year on year ... PRIMARILY BECAUSE MORE ANGLERS ARE RETURNING THE FISH THEY CATCH.

    You seem to be advocating a similar view as the factory trawler apologists "Ah sure there's more fish in the sea than we can ever catch" it's infinite so we can do no harm." And yesterday the owners of Ireland's biggest trawler admitted on the radio they had to send it to CHILE to find more fish stocks to eliminate.

    How about some photos of fish being returned?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    cj salmon wrote: »
    what??? have you fished in the east for salmon was the question,,just curious,,and your reluctant to answer wht salmon killed had no gill tags and the fact is that you basically broke the law,correct me if im wron g but salmon in your lough videos had no gill tags ????
    and gill tags are to remain on the fish till processing them at home or whatever??
    you had tags on a salmon river,,prob because you needed a licence before you can be granted to fish for the day.

    the other salmon caught by dry fly fishing for trout,,( a lucky and welcome accident),where still killed and have no tags,,,that sort of thing could really enrage salmon fishers do you not think[/QUOTE

    lol i do alot of salmon fishing.. i own a licence at the start of the year, not that i even bother fishing at the start.,.. if i catch a salmon on a lake on 3lb on dry fly,, would you throw it back just because your licence is in your bag in the B&B ..

    by the way the fish got tagged before i got to shore as i keep my licence in my vest....

    and even if i did not have my licence on the lake i would have kept the fish as i would have taged it when i got to the B&B... like any one else... Lets be honest here would you throw it back...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭cj salmon


    tag it in the in bnb??? that completely defeats the purpose of tagging would ye not say?,,,if a bailiff caught you with with a untagged fish,he's not gonna beleive that like!! there is untagged salmon on the shore is there not?? i could be wrong i coulnt be a!!sed looking tbh.

    im sure you do have a licence for salmon fishing incidently what lough was it you caught salmon on dries??
    i would return salmon caught if i hadnt a tag there to save getting a hefty fine possibly, and generally obey the law,and id return 98 per cent of my fish anyway.

    why should you have to kill salmon when you went trout fishing and had already an overfull bag of them? nice surpize to catch but why kill it then,,take a salmon on a salmon fishing trip if you like,,nothing wrong with the odd salmon for the table i suppose ,,you wouldnt kill a trout on a salmon trip,,,well maybe you would

    i think this thread should prob return to topic here ,so best of luck with your loughs info.
    cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭ironbluedun


    coolwings wrote: »
    Unless you are fishing Corrib for 40 years you don't know what good fishing is. Irish lough trout are still recovering from damage done during the 1980s and after when stocks were reduced by over 90% in some loughs. Increased angling pressure, reduced water quality and roach competition did the damage. But the trout are coming back slowly year on year ... PRIMARILY BECAUSE MORE ANGLERS ARE RETURNING THE FISH THEY CATCH.

    Very true indeed...........but I would also add pollution and drainage to the list of causes coolwings..........

    I am very glad to see anglers finally taking catch and release seriously in Ireland.....it has been long long overdue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    cj salmon wrote: »
    hope you dont kill salmon or seatrout in the east,,as most our rivers are closed,,and from your videos ,it seems that you probably would!!

    why no gill tags on salmon caught in videos???????????

    i fish legal... :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    cj salmon wrote: »
    tag it in the in bnb??? that completely defeats the purpose of tagging would ye not say?,,,if a bailiff caught you with with a untagged fish,he's not gonna beleive that like!! there is untagged salmon on the shore is there not?? i could be wrong i coulnt be a!!sed looking tbh.

    if a bailiff wanted to fine me, if i did not have my tags with me, after coming off a lake from trout fishing, i would happily pay it...

    i dont think anyone would release a salmon they got on 3lb dry fly.

    but that was not the case.... the salmon got tagged after photo...
    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭DryFlyFishing


    cj salmon wrote: »
    tag it in the in bnb??? that completely defeats the purpose of tagging would ye not say

    no it does not defeat the purpose...

    fish got tagged...

    fish got recorded....

    what is the difference..?????????? a few hours.....?


    any B&B will not accept a salmon into there freezer without a tag.....:)...

    so make sure you put one on it before anyone sees it...

    better off having your tags with you out on the lake though....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭beer enigma


    Ok enough is enough - I'm closing this thread as its not only getting very inflammatory but also promoting the use of taking untagged fish............


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