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5 episodes left to answer so many questions

  • 23-04-2010 3:09pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭


    Do you think the writers will pull it off and wrap everything up?

    I know they've said they won't explicitly explain everything but they should at least attempt to clarify or allude to meaning wherever possible.

    Could the purpose of the island be a metaphor for the meaning of life? Basically we're not sure why we/it exists, some of us have faith that there is some deep and meaningful meaning whereas some of us just go with the flow and see what happens, the truth is we'll never know, endlessly speculate etc.

    The problem the writers have is if they explain everything it's bound to be a let-down/not satisfy everyone....if they don't explain it, people will moan and bitch endlessly.

    I am hoping for a loop type ending where it all takes us back to the start and something that can have us watch the whole series from the start again and see characters in a completely different light without inconsistences in their behaviour.

    Did real Locke/Jack know all along they had experienced this before? Watch again and find out

    Anyway getting to the unanswered questions what main stuff needs to be answered

    numbers? hasn't this been alluded to already, they are the co-ordinates of the island

    two bodies in cave? we'll find out shortly

    meaning of island? will we find out?

    various character histories? jacob v MIB history revealed in future episode

    what about more detail on motivations of whitmore/eloise/eko etc.?

    where is the mad french woman?

    One thing I am a bit confused about is where are all the crash survivors from season 1 now that were living on the beach? what with all the timeshifts I'm not sure

    explain alt timeline? is it mib's created reality giving the losties an idealised life only they kind of sense it's artificial and meaningless


    I know I've missed loads of unanswered questions so please add them and possible answers too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭James Forde


    island = metaphorical cork

    mad french woman = brown bread

    other survivors (redshirts) = brown bread also


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    bryanjf wrote: »
    island = metaphorical cork

    mad french woman = brown bread

    other survivors (redshirts) = brown bread also

    brown bread??? did i miss something? could you elaborate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 ripeinmay


    You do realise that the last sence in the last episode, will have Woodie Allen waking up from a dream shouting....

    "Holy Sh1t! I just had the most terrible nightmare, i dreamt i wrote the biggest pile of crap of a T.V. show the world has ever seen! Goodbye cruel world. <bang shotgun to face>

    In other words, they ain't gonna wrap up anything for ya! Get ready for the big letdown!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 663 ✭✭✭SimpleLogic


    seemingly to brown bread someone means to kill them for some strange reason :o

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brown%20bread


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Burner- wrote: »
    brown bread

    Its rhyming slang, brown bread = dead, apple and pears = stairs, slabs of meat = feet, etc.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    yekahs wrote: »
    Its rhyming slang, brown bread = dead, apple and pears = stairs, slabs of meat = feet, etc.

    ya i know that much although if any show was going to pull off making characters into brown bread and having people not question the credibility of same it's lost


    anyway how did rousseau and original flight people get brown breaded?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    donfers wrote: »
    I am hoping for a loop type ending where it all takes us back to the start and something that can have us watch the whole series from the start again and see characters in a completely different light without inconsistences in their behaviour.

    +1

    I'm hoping its an ending like Shutter Island, whereby its still slightly ambiguous, but allows you to watch the film in a new light that makes sense, and allows you to pick up on various subtle cues that you didn't notice the first time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    yekahs wrote: »
    +1

    I'm hoping its an ending like Shutter Island, whereby its still slightly ambiguous, but allows you to watch the film in a new light that makes sense, and allows you to pick up on various subtle cues that you didn't notice the first time.

    ya that would be great...something that would make a rewatch a whole new eye-opening experience as you gasp "the writers know what they were doing all along"

    I expect that, I demand that..anything else and I'll be a broken man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Jay Ru


    yekahs wrote: »
    +1

    I'm hoping its an ending like Shutter Island, whereby its still slightly ambiguous, but allows you to watch the film in a new light that makes sense, and allows you to pick up on various subtle cues that you didn't notice the first time.

    The only problem with that is Shutter Island was written with that in mind, i.e. it was well thought with no contradicting actions or stories lines. Lost at times is an absolute mess at times.

    For example, what wud of happening if Locke didn't blow up the sub in series 3?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Jay Ru wrote: »
    The only problem with that is Shutter Island was written with that in mind, i.e. it was well thought with no contradicting actions or stories lines. Lost at times is an absolute mess at times.

    For example, what wud of happening if Locke didn't blow up the sub in series 3?

    Yeah, I know, I was just saying, how I'd love if it ended like that.

    Tbh, the more reveals there have been lately, the more I realise its never going to happen. Things like the whispers, the numbers, christian sheppard, they all stink of the writers not having had a notion what they were themselves, the answers are so incomplete, insignificant and tend to raise more why questions. I think the writers are banking on Adam and Eve to be the reveal that makes the fans go "ah see they did know what they were doing".

    There's still a very small bit of me that is hopeful thats not the case though, and the final reveal will blow my mind and make sense of everything from the Hurley bird to Locke blowing up the sub, to Nikki and Paulo, to wtf the numbers are, why was Walt important, why were women infertile,.....etc.

    ...its only a very very small part of me though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    If the final scene helps explain the Hurley bird then it will be the worst ending in history of fiction.

    Edit: what's the mystery with Locke blowing up the sub? He blew it up because he didn't want anyone leave the island. There is nothing else to be said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Jay Ru


    cud some one remind me what the hurley bird was?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Jay Ru wrote: »
    cud some one remind me what the hurley bird was?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    That is almost as good as this...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭Macca3000


    Aren't Rose and Bernard still on the main island? What's the posibility of them being Adam and Eve? Maybe they refuse point blank to leave the island and Smokey has no choice but to kill them. Hope to see them on island timeline before the end anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    ya i know that much although if any show was going to pull off making characters into brown bread and having people not question the credibility of same it's lost


    anyway how did rousseau and original flight people get brown breaded?
    donfers is offline Add Infraction for donfers Report Post Reply With Quote

    Oh dear. Reading that was like watching my granny try to rap. Brown bread is not a verb mate.

    At this stage I'm going to reserve judgement until the show is finished to make my opinions


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Macca3000 wrote: »
    Aren't Rose and Bernard still on the main island? What's the posibility of them being Adam and Eve? Maybe they refuse point blank to leave the island and Smokey has no choice but to kill them. Hope to see them on island timeline before the end anyway.

    The producers promised an anagram in the episode NOT IN PORTLAND as a clue to that mystery. "Only fools are enslaved by time and space" (of the room 23 video) can be re-arranged to form the phrase: "bones of Nadlers may lay lost deep in cave". So I'd say at least at that point the writers had decided it was going to be Rose and Bernard, but they could have changed their mind since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭James Forde


    donfers wrote: »

    anyway how did rousseau and original flight people get brown breaded?

    Rousseau was killed by Keamy and his freighter goons

    original flight people died of numerous various reasons

    *just rewatched white rabbit and one of the redshirts drowned :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    yekahs wrote: »
    The producers promised an anagram in the episode NOT IN PORTLAND as a clue to that mystery. "Only fools are enslaved by time and space" (of the room 23 video) can be re-arranged to form the phrase: "bones of Nadlers may lay lost deep in cave". So I'd say at least at that point the writers had decided it was going to be Rose and Bernard, but they could have changed their mind since.

    eh the actual anagram was MITTLEOS which was lost time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    I'm hoping its an ending like Shutter Island, whereby its still slightly ambiguous, but allows you to watch the film in a new light that makes sense, and allows you to pick up on various subtle cues that you didn't notice the first time.

    I watched seasons 1,2 and am currently watching season 3 after season six began.

    One thing I'm starting to suspect is that Locke had contact with Mib in the first few seasons.

    Remember when Locke saw the the smoke monster and said he'd seen the 'eye of the island'. In season 3 ep 3 Locke says that he needs to talk to the island.

    Maybe any time someone had that hallucination paste Mib started messing with their heads, bearing in mind that we know he appeared to Jack and Claire as their father.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    cooker3 wrote: »
    If the final scene helps explain the Hurley bird then it will be the worst ending in history of fiction.
    .
    Its Jacobs incarnation kind of like mib's smoke incarnation.
    Its constantly warning them and watching over them gently nudging them in the right direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Drico


    I imagine Jack and Sawyer as Jacob and MiB on the beach in the final twist and scene of the series. It leaves the possibility of a further series open. Perfect Hollywood scripting - and it prevents them from having to reveal something profound.

    That said, I think the "profound" revelation is indeed that we are all "Lost" and that whilst some accept the largely meaningless nature of life (atheists, Sawyer), others by necessity must believe in something greater ("blind faith" in something more) to function (religious people, Locke, Jack now). Both points of view are in eternal conflict. If the believers give in to the atheists, they have no purpose anymore in life and can no longer function. Meanwhile, the atheists try to constantly break away from the believers to get on with their lives free of what they consider needless superstition. Yet, in the absence of complete and utter proof that there definitely isn't anything more, this is impossible.

    It therefore comes down to how people are programmed - some can function in a meaningless way, others simply cannot.

    My two cents anyway.


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