Over 2 months here and no work..

universe777

What are your experiences? How long did it take to find work and what industry?

I am male, 29, in Southbank, Melbourne. Not on a WHV, on a spouse visa.
I have 2.5 years admin experience (Civil Service in Ireland).
3 yr Mech/Manufacturing Diploma also.
Almost all Mech Engineering jobs are over 50km away or close ones (Williamstown area) are in companies with defence contracts so need to be a citizen.
My office experience is recent, so I have been looking for mostly office jobs in the CBD and immediate neighbouring areas. I am tied to Melbourne as the wife has a job here.

I have applied to most of the agencies in Melbourne through their ads on Seek etc, only got 2 agency interviews, it's quiet at the moment according to them. The rest of the agencies have dismissed my application within 24 hrs.

Seems to be as hard to get a job here as it is in Ireland... :mad:

JONJO THE MISER

Yeah its very hard to get work and evn if you do get it its casual and can be anything from 15-30 hrs per week, a waste of time, its Just one big con to get Backpackers to Aus and then treat them like crap. To be honest i hated Aus and will never set foot in there again, Canada, U.S.A now there the countries to be in.
On the way home i got stoped in the Airport by customs and immigration and your one started given out to me about my passport being dirty and tatty looking, she then made a phone call to send me to another guy who left me through but not before i told them it would be the last time id said foot in there country and to told them try and treat visitiors nicely.

eringobragh

universe777 wrote: »

What are your experiences? How long did it take to find work and what industry?

I am male, 29, in Southbank, Melbourne. Not on a WHV, on a spouse visa.
I have 2.5 years admin experience (Civil Service in Ireland).
3 yr Mech/Manufacturing Diploma also.
Almost all Mech Engineering jobs are over 50km away or close ones (Williamstown area) are in companies with defence contracts so need to be a citizen.
My office experience is recent, so I have been looking for mostly office jobs in the CBD and immediate neighbouring areas. I am tied to Melbourne as the wife has a job here.

I have applied to most of the agencies in Melbourne through their ads on Seek etc, only got 2 agency interviews, it's quiet at the moment according to them. The rest of the agencies have dismissed my application within 24 hrs.

Seems to be as hard to get a job here as it is in Ireland... :mad:

Hang in there, it was a bit quiet when I first arrived and going into month 2 jobless can be a bit demoralising, thankfully I got a job not long after that.

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Yeah its very hard to get work and evn if you do get it its casual and can be anything from 15-30 hrs per week, a waste of time, its Just one big con to get Backpackers to Aus and then treat them like crap. To be honest i hated Aus and will never set foot in there again, Canada, U.S.A now there the countries to be in.
On the way home i got stoped in the Airport by customs and immigration and your one started given out to me about my passport being dirty and tatty looking, she then made a phone call to send me to another guy who left me through but not before i told them it would be the last time id said foot in there country and to told them try and treat visitiors nicely.

Jaysus you don't have a chip on your shoulder you've a whole bag of spuds!
What do you expect? You have no experience in anything (by your own admission)? ..and I know plenty of people who slotted into 'casual role' jobs not long after coming off the plane. Anyone who frequents this forum knows your stance on Australia, you never gave it a chance.

Good luck in the US there casual role jobs pay peanuts, not to forget paying the $8000 a year medical insurance.

Xavi6

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Yeah its very hard to get work and evn if you do get it its casual and can be anything from 15-30 hrs per week, a waste of time, its Just one big con to get Backpackers to Aus and then treat them like crap. To be honest i hated Aus and will never set foot in there again, Canada, U.S.A now there the countries to be in.
On the way home i got stoped in the Airport by customs and immigration and your one started given out to me about my passport being dirty and tatty looking, she then made a phone call to send me to another guy who left me through but not before i told them it would be the last time id said foot in there country and to told them try and treat visitiors nicely.

Yawn :rolleyes:

FYI, casual work, despite being less hours a week, is actually paid at a higher hourly rate than most full time as you don't accrue holiday time etc. For backpackers it's perfect.

uglyjohn

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

stuff

i love your posts! your opinion on australia seems to change constantly. What went wrong? you seemed so hapy in your roadhouse and you started a thread in AH telling everyone to come down here.

Seriously though i dont see how your experience is at all like the OPs. as eringobragh said you yourself admitted you have no qualifications and came on a WHV.
The op is qualified, has relavent experience and has none of the visa issues you had. i dont think he would call himself a backpacker.

OP, im not based in melbourne but based on what goes on in the forum most people seem to be. im sure someone can give you better advice than me but for what its worth: A good friend of mine on a WHV and a group of people he is with (all WHV) have gotten admin work in melbourne. i'll try and get the name of the agency he went through. mite take a while though. comms arent good where i am.

mandrake04

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

On the way home i got stoped in the Airport by customs and immigration and your one started given out to me about my passport being dirty and tatty looking,

Really this says it all, your passport is and remains property of your government and issued to you in good faith to use. If you cant even look after a passport properly then you are obviously an idiot. How can any other nations officials respect you when you can't even respect your own country.

Maybe this explains why you found it difficult to get work, you are probably one of those people who has Idiot written all over their demeanor.

No point coming on here whining that Australia is cr@p when obviously its you that is to blame, you might think USA and Canada are better option but I reckon you will find a similar pattern there.... doesn't really matter where you go you will still be an idiot.

CiaranC

universe777 wrote: »

Almost all Mech Engineering jobs are over 50km away or close ones (Williamstown area) are in companies with defence contracts so need to be a citizen

I work in the company you are talking about in IT. Im on a WHV, and have no security clearance. Have you applied anyway?

Mackman

I came to Perth on a WHV, took me about 4 months to get a job in my field, (Drafting). I did fruit picking for a month before that, horrible work. The main thing is, stick at it. There is plenty of work here, just takes a while to get it sometimes

JONJO THE MISER

mandrake04 wrote: »

Really this says it all, your passport is and remains property of your government and issued to you in good faith to use. If you cant even look after a passport properly then you are obviously an idiot. How can any other nations officials respect you when you can't even respect your own country.

Maybe this explains why you found it difficult to get work, you are probably one of those people who has Idiot written all over their demeanor.

No point coming on here whining that Australia is cr@p when obviously its you that is to blame, you might think USA and Canada are better option but I reckon you will find a similar pattern there.... doesn't really matter where you go you will still be an idiot.

Aww looks like you will get a ban, you cant attack other posters buddy. For your information my passport was tatty because i travel a lot, i have lived in both the the U.S.A and Canada for long periods and loved both of them. Aus on the other hand was a crap hole, full of its own self importance, the people are ignorant racist and macho, they cant even speak proper english everything is in slang, in a nutshell its a dump.

universe777

uglyjohn wrote: »

i'll try and get the name of the agency he went through. mite take a while though. comms arent good where i am.

That would be great, thanks.

universe777

CiaranC wrote: »

I work in the company you are talking about in IT. Im on a WHV, and have no security clearance. Have you applied anyway?

I didn't apply, well got to the application and aborted. It stressed the need for citizenship etc.
There are a fair few companies working out that way. Can you pm me the name of the one you are working at?

The Aussie

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

full of its own self importance, the people are ignorant racist and macho, they cant even speak proper english everything is in slang, in a nutshell its a dump.

Sounds like any County in Ireland ive been to:eek: and besides if you have nothing to contribute, Dont.

OP, Have you thaught about agency work through someone like Hays or the like, not a long term option but might lead to something down the track, best of luck in your search mate.

concussion

If you have Permanant Residence you can join the Defence Forces Reserves and apply for citizenship after 6 months. It would be an odd way around it but it's possible.

universe777

Can't get PR until a years time. I did consider joining anyway, would be a great experience.

mandrake04

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Aww looks like you will get a ban, you cant attack other posters buddy. For your information my passport was tatty because i travel a lot, i have lived in both the the U.S.A and Canada for long periods and loved both of them. Aus on the other hand was a crap hole, full of its own self importance, the people are ignorant racist and macho, they cant even speak proper english everything is in slang, in a nutshell its a dump.

Ban?? What Ban? Attack who?

Why for telling the truth? Get real.

My passport has nearly every page full, but I still have the respect to look after it.

Father Damo

uglyjohn wrote: »

i love your posts! your opinion on australia seems to change constantly. What went wrong? you seemed so hapy in your roadhouse and you started a thread in AH telling everyone to come down here.

After going on a rant about people lying on their 2nd year visa applications I joyfully informed him that his poxy workhouse job didnt contribute to the 3 months farmwork Good riddance, rather a fraudster Irishman than a sneak.

Quite ironic that he says Australia is a scam to shaft the working man, seeing as the only industries here that will scam foreigners are

a- The farmwork he thinks everyone should be doing

and

b- Any of that telemarketing/ door to door/ street sales bullsh1t.

Apart from that its a country with reasonable rates of pay and a riidicilously low cost of living.

Claasman

Father Damo wrote: »

the only industries here that will scam foreigners are

a- The farmwork he thinks everyone should be doing

and

b- Any of that telemarketing/ door to door/ street sales bullsh1t.

Apart from that its a country with reasonable rates of pay and a riidicilously low cost of living.

love the sweeping generalisations!
know people making plenty of money doing both...

kookie

OP I recently returned from Aus on a WHV, when I first arrived in Melbourne I was waiting about 7 wks before I got my first job. It is very frustrating when ur constantly putting yourself out there and not getting anywhere. In the end I started getting jobs through the agencies my first job was only 1 day a wk but once I got the first job the ball started rollin n then all the agencies were calling me offering me work so hang in there u will get something eventually. Try Mi Team or Optimum recruitment I found these two to be the best, there is alos Mosaic and Julia Ross. The jobs weren't the greatest but hey they paid the rent and got me by. I wouldn't recommend using seek better off just going through the agencies directly thats what I did.

Best of luck

watna

Mandrake infracted for personal abuse. There is no need to get your point across like that. There was no need for it.

JONJO THE MISER

watna wrote: »

Mandrake infracted for personal abuse. There is no need to get your point across like that. There was no need for it.

Thanks.
It says it all really, when people need to make personal attacks its quiet sad.

watna

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Thanks.
It says it all really, when people need to make personal attacks its quiet sad.

Jonjo - there's no need to comment on thread about it. It has been dealt with. I'd like to keep this thread on topic.

I don't want it mentioned again.

Thanks

stepbar

Look, your in a different country. I wouldn't expect too much. Be thankfull that you can get a job at all.

universe777

kookie wrote: »

Try Mi Team or Optimum recruitment I found these two to be the best, there is alos Mosaic and Julia Ross.

Thanks, much appreciated! I will contact these tomorrow.

syklops

Almost all Mech Engineering jobs are over 50km away or close ones (Williamstown area) are in companies with defence contracts so need to be a citizen.

I dont understand this sentence. You traveled just under 10,000 miles, to Australia, but you cant get a job in your field because it is 50 klicks away?

mandrake04

syklops wrote: »

I dont understand this sentence. You traveled just under 10,000 miles, to Australia, but you cant get a job in your field because it is 50 klicks away?

Maybe the OP doesn't drive or have a car, 50 KM on public transport is a a bit of a commute.

Mahatma coat

Ah he's travelled 10,000 KM to follow his missus, she obviously lives near her work, so the OP is not as footloose as most in his situation.

I wouldnt be a fan of a 50Km commute every mornin either. what time would you ever get to yerself

The Sweeper

OP, get on the phones and see if the agencies will give you an interview as opposed to just shooting your CV through, and make sure you make it very clear you're on a spouse visa and don't have the limitations of a WHV. I don't think seek.com.au is a good way to jobhunt to be honest - unless it's a very specific job, you're competing against literally hundreds of applicants for any admin job.

Zambia

Jesus H Christ Jonjo ... give it a rest.

To the OP network mate, look for courses or activitys that lead to employment or people in the line of work. Getting work here is a lot on who you know.

Hang in there

universe777

syklops wrote: »

I dont understand this sentence. You traveled just under 10,000 miles, to Australia, but you cant get a job in your field because it is 50 klicks away?

Yes, just under 10k miles once, not every day. I don't drive and 50+ km on public transport is ridiculous, very expensive and I value my free time a lot, so would prefer not to spend at least 4hrs a day commuting to work.

Tony Sopranoe

Has anybody else struggled like this to find work?

How long have you been searching and in what area of employment?

Tony Sopranoe

Has anybody else struggled like this to find work?

How long have you been searching and in what area of employment?

PirateShampoo

Nope, working in Perth at present and before that Darwin for 9 months. Had no problem finding work in either.

I did earth works in Darwin driving a Water cart and Roller for 30 a hr with no experiance, and now im in Perth working doing Spray and Seel for a Asphalt company. Hopefully get sponsored with them.

I didnt really try to get the jobs, just once you put your self out there and give the right attitude I think companys are more than willing to take on Irish over ozzy workers.

The Aussie

PirateShampoo wrote: »

I think companys are more than willing to take on Irish over ozzy workers.

Any proof of the non-ancedotal kind???

In fairness the jobs you listed the employer would not care what you were or where you came from just as long as you turned up and the job got done

markymark21

Tony Sopranoe wrote: »

Has anybody else struggled like this to find work?

How long have you been searching and in what area of employment?

Not in hospitality. I had 7 interviews in 2 days.. Was able to pick and choose where i wanted as well. Money is pretty good as well.

PirateShampoo

The Aussie wrote: »

Any proof of the non-ancedotal kind???
In fairness the jobs you listed the employer would not care what you were or where you came from just as long as you turned up and the job got done

Yeah, in the last 3 companys ive worked for there has been a higher whv worker count. We show up, get the job done and dont whinge nearly half as much as Ozzys do.

If you cant get a job over here then theres something wrong with you.

And isnt showing up and doing the job the whole point of having a job? Dunno what sort of work you been doing if it isnt.

kdevitt

PirateShampoo wrote: »

I think companys are more than willing to take on Irish over ozzy workers.

Unless they're have PR, I strongly doubt thats the case - not in admin / finance / banking etc anyway. I wouldn't hire anyone on a WHV because its a waste of time, and I need to jump through hoops to take someone in on a 457.

Finance jobs are going to be thin on the ground with all the Westpac and other big 3 people being let go.

The Aussie

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Yeah, in the last 3 companys ive worked for there has been a higher whv worker count. We show up, get the job done and dont whinge nearly half as much as Ozzys do.

We can all come up with nice little misty eyed anecdotes that make us feel important, so where is the proof i asked for. Like i can supply nice little story of my own, the company i work for here in Cork is all foreigners, the last 2 Irish blokes got the short shift last summer for being Divisive, Lazy, Begrudging, Self Centered Twats.

Now i could go onto this Forum and say that Irish employers prefer foreigners because they are not Divisive, Lazy, Begrudging, Self Centered Twats, and i would get rightfully Slated if not infracted for it, because while there is truth in my story it is just that, a story.

PirateShampoo wrote: »

I think companys are more than willing to take on Irish over ozzy workers.

So are you able to back up this "Story" with fact???

PirateShampoo wrote: »

And isnt showing up and doing the job the whole point of having a job? Dunno what sort of work you been doing if it isnt.

Thank you, that line is so Glib ive now had my RDI of Glibness

mandrake04

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Yeah, in the last 3 companys ive worked for there has been a higher whv worker count. We show up, get the job done and dont whinge nearly half as much as Ozzys do.

If you cant get a job over here then theres something wrong with you.

And isnt showing up and doing the job the whole point of having a job? Dunno what sort of work you been doing if it isnt.

Depends on what the industry is, most WHV work is just casual so even if you show up and there no work that day you cant expect to be paid. I have seen plenty of Paddies whinge when they only got 1 or 2 days work out of the week.

also not everyone wants to shovel shit or pick apples, you cant really say there something wrong with them because they cant get a job in other industry.

karl bracken

http://applydirect.com.au/

not as popular as seek so you may have less competition and your cutting out the middle man.

After sending in lots of CV's and only following the odd one up with a phone call for 8 weeks with not much luck. I sent out less CV's but took more time and applied to more specific stuff tailoring CV for each role type, then followed each one up the next day with a phone call.

It got me on speaking terms with the recruiters and definately helped in getting work. It also meant less frustration and rejection.

Goodluck and stick with it 50k aint that far to travel once your heading out of the city, traffic is going the opposite way so should be straight out there. Most of the Aussies i work with travel at least an hour in