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Pole Forked Greens - Rule Question

  • 23-04-2010 11:05am
    #1
    DubGF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭


    Posted this in another thread when I should have created a new one...

    Whats the ruling on pole fork marks on the green?

    Playing last weekend, ball came to a stop in a pole fork mark (greens nearly recovered from recent work), marked it, cleaned it, replaced back in the pole fork mark.

    Was this the right thing to do? No putts started in a straight line as a result of this (happened maybe 6 times)

    Afterwards some mentioned I didnt have to replace the ball in the pole fork mark.

    Whats the ruling there?

    Gary


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  • #2
    G1032
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    DubGF wrote: »
    Afterwards some mentioned I didnt have to replace the ball in the pole fork mark.

    Whats the ruling there?

    Gary

    The ball is to be replaced as near as possible to it's original position. If that is down a hole then tough luck i'm afraid!!


  • #3
    Woodgate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Woodgate


    AFAIK you have relief, i.e. you place either side of the hole. That's what we do in our club anyway, it's only fair.


  • #4
    DubGF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭DubGF


    2 replies, 2 different answers....

    I am still unsure but I guarantee the majority of players would not place it back in the same position if it was in a pole fork mark.

    Does anyone know for definite?


  • #5
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    There should be a local rule where placing the ball not in a hole is the option.


    Check the notice board.


  • #6
    G1032
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    Woodgate wrote: »
    AFAIK you have relief, i.e. you place either side of the hole. That's what we do in our club anyway, it's only fair.
    Is this a local rule at your club or is it something that some just assume you can do?
    Unless it's a local rule, posted up on the notice board, then it is not permitted.
    Sure why not go and move your ball out of a divot in the fairway while you're at it..............?


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  • #7
    PhilipMarlowe
    Subscribers Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭PhilipMarlowe


    Holes made by a greenkeeper are subject to being GUR and you get relief but aeration holes are not covered under this...
    So to answer, you suck it up :/


  • #8
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    NOT if there is a local rule which covers this situation.


    There usually is.


    Fookin' common sense.


  • #9
    G1032
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    NOT if there is a local rule which covers this situation.


    There usually is.


    Fookin' common sense.

    I'm playing golf over 20 years and have never come across a local rule anywhere covering this situation.


  • #10
    Sandwlch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Sandwlch


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    NOT if there is a local rule which covers this situation.


    There usually is.


    Fookin' common sense.

    Sense that cant be that fookin' common though.

    Been a member of 4 clubs over the last 20 years and yet to come across it.


  • #11
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Those clubs obviously haven't much common sense I guess.

    ;)


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  • #12
    Par72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Par72


    I have seen it as a local rule.


  • #13
    Seve OB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Page 128 of the rule book
    i find it a little unclear though

    it first says the club may implement a local rule for "through the green" but then says on the greens, you can place the ball

    http://dps.twiihosting.net/pga/doc/content/doc_528_99.pdf

    i think it has to be a local rule
    what do you all think?


  • #14
    PhilipMarlowe
    Subscribers Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭PhilipMarlowe


    Yeah, you're looking at specimen local rules there which may or may not be implemented.
    What's unclear?
    "Through the green" means anywhere on the course that's not on the tee box or the green of the hole being played (excluding all hazards). So if the fairway was hollow cored and the club had a local rule in place then you'd be entitled to a drop out of an aeration hole.
    If you were in an aeration hole on the green and the club had a local rule in place allowing relief then you'd be entitled to place the ball beside the aeration hole.

    It's all dependent on a local rule being in place however because under the 'normal' rules of golf you don't get relief from aeration holes.


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