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Apart from PPPs, will any other road scheme go to construction for the next 5 years?

  • 22-04-2010 8:58am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭


    We all know that some schemes may go to construction from 2011-2015 via the PPP process. But does anyone think that new bypasses or small national primary schemes will go ahead in the next 5 years?

    If so which ones do you think will go to construction? Also to your knowledge which schemes are nearly ready to go?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    The N87 Ballyconnell Bypass and the R336 ( or L something or other) Barna Bypass. Maybe the next phase of the Athenry Ring Road or the "Athenry Outer Relief Road" as some constipated Galway County Council types like to call it.

    What will not happen, N21 N4 N5 N17 N15 N25 N22 N13 etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Irish and Proud


    N2 Slane Bypass will have to happen - too much local pressure for it not to happen - especially with 22 white crosses overlooking the current bridge.

    N25 CSRR Interchanges will have to happen too - far too many votes at stake there I guess!

    N5 Longford Bypass does not exactly seem like rocket science - especially as a solution for what seems to be a major cause of complaint.

    Regards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Slane wont be touched I reckon.

    CSRR interchanges do seem to be provisionally going ahead next year. It will be the only 2011 non PPP scheme.

    Longford would be nice but seems to have been subsumed into other schemes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭KevR


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    The N87 Ballyconnell Bypass and the R336 ( or L something or other) Barna Bypass. Maybe the next phase of the Athenry Ring Road or the "Athenry Outer Relief Road" as some constipated Galway County Council types like to call it.

    What will not happen, N21 N4 N5 N17 N15 N25 N22 N13 etc.

    Out of curiosity, where will the next phase go to/from?


    Just a side note: the Derrydonnell link road to the M6 still had quite a bit of work to be done on it the last time I passed (couple of weeks ago). It's on Google Maps even though it's not fully built or open..


    ^Need to pan a bit to the left with that link.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    KevR wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, where will the next phase go to/from?

    I have no idea but the Athenry Outer Orbital Relief Road certainly deserves its own thread in Infrastructure. Reminds me :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭KevR


    Think I remember seeing those County Council planning notices for a ring road somewhere to the North/North West of Athenry. That was a couple of years ago though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    KevR wrote: »
    Think I remember seeing those County Council planning notices for a ring road somewhere to the North/North West of Athenry. That was a couple of years ago though.

    Fragments are shown in the map below west and east of Athenry, some may be M6 access that has been built.

    A new local area plan is due this year and the road may well go all the way around Athenry by then :) The access roads for the M6 comprise part of the south ring road so you could start a crayon job thread with a map if you included that.

    http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/Planning/LocalAreaPlans/AdoptedPlans/AthenryLocalAreaPlan/filestable/TheFile,6870,en.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭ilovegermany


    There was a tender notice last week for the N3 bypass of Belturbet - its about 6km of single carraigeway i think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭123easy


    Q. Apart from the PPP's, will any other road scheme go to constuction for the next 5 yrs

    A. Very little activity maybe a small bypass here and there to keep strategically important politicans happy but nearly all of the remaining resources will be directed into
    repair, maintenance & improvements


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Zoney


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    The N87 Ballyconnell Bypass and the R336 ( or L something or other) Barna Bypass. Maybe the next phase of the Athenry Ring Road or the "Athenry Outer Relief Road" as some constipated Galway County Council types like to call it.

    What will not happen, N21 N4 N5 N17 N15 N25 N22 N13 etc.

    No N24 either - don't forget the "in theory" plans for that route. I think the entire length had projects with planned 2+1s.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Jayuu


    Zoney wrote: »
    No N24 either - don't forget the "in theory" plans for that route. I think the entire length had projects with planned 2+1s.

    A pity as Mooncoin, Carrick-on-Suir and Tipperary really could do with being bypassed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Bards


    Zoney wrote: »
    No N24 either - don't forget the "in theory" plans for that route. I think the entire length had projects with planned 2+1s.

    and these were to become 2+2 since the NRA scrapped the 2+1 due to the relatively small difference in costs between the two, giving much greater level of service and are far safer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Jayuu


    Bards wrote: »
    and these were to become 2+2 since the NRA scrapped the 2+1 due to the relatively small difference in costs between the two, giving much greater level of service and are far safer

    Yeah. I had the misfortune to drive the N24 several night in a row at the end of March and that 2+1 section around Piltown and Fiddown was a nightmare.
    Badly lit, hard to work out where the central barrier was and junctions that came right out into the driving lane. I know this was one of the first 2+1 sections they developed so maybe they refined it afterwards but I really wouldn't recommend them if they are all like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭Tech3


    Another project that might get the nod is the R494 Killaloe/Ballina Bypass. It is now at the CPO stage. It's believed to cost in the region of €30 million.

    Some photos here of the bridge design and routing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,146 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    What were the other ones Fred Barry mentioned in the Dail question? Longford and Belturbet I think? Small-ish RD2 schemes

    Ones like the R494 have the 'advantage' of being built by councils; back pre NRA in the last moneygeddon certain councils always seemed to have more cash for schemes knocking around. The R407 Sallins BP could be one to appear under the same ideas.

    Also, if the govt. lose all three by-elections I could see the independents / FF rebels looking for appeasement schemes in their constituencies to get a bump up the list!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    Birr is a relatively large town that has not just one National route but two going through the centre of the town. With Tullamore is now bypassed. More focus should be put onto the N52 with improving the road from Borriskane to Birr. It will be relativley cheap to do an offline 2+2 road here as its sparsely populated and land values have dropped considerably.

    What schemes on the N52 are at CPO stage or moving into the advanced stages now?


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