It's not easy loving the tunes from the past!!

gebbel

OK folks I got into dance music in a big way in 1995. From then until now, I pretty much listen to nothing else. I have lots of tunes, live DJ mixes, albums etc that I listen to all the time. It was pointed out to me recently by a cousin of mine (after trawling through my mp3 player) that my musical taste is getting a little stale. I prefer the harder house and techno of the old era, if I can call it that. As long as it had a little kick in it, I liked it. I loved the clubs. I have many downloads of great club nights from the likes of Carl Cox, Digweed, Oakenfold etc..you know the people. The stuff they are churning out now does very little for me. I guess nostalgia plays its part also.

It's now not as easy to play the music I like at a house party or even on a normal Saturday night in having a few beers as we all now do. The crew I hung out with and shared my passion have more or less dissipated away with time. Some of them were telling me that once the drug scene ended their love of the music waned also. I am 33 now. My life has moved on a lot but my love of the music remains in the past....and I don't have the people around to share it with.

Just wondering what other's think?

Elevator

you need to find a new circle of friends man, get to the sheebin festival, life, electric picnic or all three and you will defo meet people who appreciate all things electronic,

don't mind most people as their musical style is controlled by outside influences only, you have it in your heart and don't forget that,

for new music check out beatport.com, check your favourite genre and have a listen through the current top 100 dl's and the classic top 100. at less than €2 per download online wherever you shop your iPod will love you forever

now go out there and meet your fellow ravers, have a great summer going to as many club nights, festivals, free parties/raves and after parties you can afford and by sept you'll be a new man

hope this helps mate

Is mise le key

You will find alot of like minded people here........

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=268391

Or click the link in my sig to Properoldskool also for like minded folks;)

stomprockin

Hey Gabbel, you got to get into some of the new stuff man!! some tracks coming out over the last few years would give many old classics a run for there money! I would suggest start listening to some podcasts from the UK and just explor different genres and styles!

gebbel

stomprockin wrote: »

Hey Gabbel, you got to get into some of the new stuff man!! some tracks coming out over the last few years would give many old classics a run for there money! I would suggest start listening to some podcasts from the UK and just explor different genres and styles!

I have tried but still have it in my head that the new stuff lacks the energy and soul of the old. I mean, is it not all mainstream now? More about the selling potential of the tracks than than the underground stuff was.

stomprockin

gebbel wrote: »

I have tried but still have it in my head that the new stuff lacks the energy and soul of the old. I mean, is it not all mainstream now? More about the selling potential of the tracks than than the underground stuff was.

I Use to thing like that also and it took me a while to get into the the newer Stuff but now i have a healthy appetite for the new stuff
Maybe your feeling to nostalgic?

Is mise le key

stomprockin wrote: »

I Use to thing like that also and it took me a while to get into the the newer Stuff but now i have a healthy appetite for the new stuff
Maybe your feeling to nostalgic?

With 291 posts on the ASYLUM/Oldskool thread i would say your fairly nostalgic yourself paddy:D

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=11724305

Sorry but i cant say that you have anything new that can match the likes of this for energy & soul now........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JHi8BnvMI8

stomprockin

Is mise le key wrote: »

With 291 posts on the ASYLUM/Oldskool thread i would say your fairly nostalgic yourself paddy:D

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=11724305

Sorry but i cant say that you have anything new that can match the likes of this for energy & soul now........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JHi8BnvMI8

HA HA You could be right there:D I am proud to have experienced the early 90's and everything about it and i can never explane what it was like to anyone who is just starting to get into the dance scene.But the new music thats coming out now and over the last few years has been really good IMO and we have to look forward and not backwards:pac:

Executive Steve

gebbel wrote: »

I mean, is it not all mainstream now? More about the selling potential of the tracks than than the underground stuff was.

Errr, NO

seannash

Is mise le key wrote: »

With 291 posts on the ASYLUM/Oldskool thread i would say your fairly nostalgic yourself paddy:D

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=11724305

Sorry but i cant say that you have anything new that can match the likes of this for energy & soul now........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JHi8BnvMI8

ah for **** sake.
that is one bad piece of music.to claim that nothing can match that for soul?

its ice cold that track.you seem to be forgetting about all the great deep house out there at the minute,not to mention stuff that came out on the likes of Naked or OM records.

its all well and good having a fondness for the old stuff but to come on hear and say that that tripe has got soul is a bit of a hard pill to swallow

dubsbhoy

I need to get my head out of the old school stuff aswell, most of mixes are old skool, every time i'm on the decks i nearly always revert back to playing old skool stuff, i buy a lot of new stuff and enjoy playing it but i think its the fact that i'm not a teen any more out clubbing listening to new stuff that i can't associate any memories or feeling to new tunes and its all guess work - moving to wexico didn't help unless your into cheesy cover bands

seannash

gebbel wrote: »

I have tried but still have it in my head that the new stuff lacks the energy and soul of the old. I mean, is it not all mainstream now? More about the selling potential of the tracks than than the underground stuff was.

i think your not really digging to deep in fairness.

there planty of great stuff out there thats equally as good as the tunes of yesteryear.



just would like to point out that all the people saying that there first experiences with house music back in the days were an unbelievably exciting experience(not saying it wasnt)its the exact same for people who are just discovering it for the first time today.

the excitement of something new isnt reseved for the people who were there at the begining,its a personal thing.
everyone can be nostalgic about there particular decade of dance music discovery,oldschool means alot of different things to alot of different age groups.

im sure some peoples idea of oldschool is the trance era around the late 90's

Is mise le key

seannash wrote: »

ah for **** sake.
that is one bad piece of music.to claim that nothing can match that for soul?

its ice cold that track.

I disagree

seannash wrote: »

everyone can be nostalgic about there particular decade of dance music discovery,oldschool means alot of different things to alot of different age groups.

im sure some peoples idea of oldschool is the trance era around the late 90's

I agree

seannash

also just to add,it could be simply a case that you dont like modern dance music and theres nothing wrong with that.

some people like 70's rock but not 80's

it perfectly okay not to enjoy what dance music has become now,dont try and force it.if its not doing it for you, dont listen

jtsuited

haha. a track based around fm bells is soulful now??
That track couldn't be colder if it tried. Disagree all you want but you're using the wrong definition of soulful if that track is indeed what you think 'soulful' means.

jonnny68

gebbel wrote: »

I have tried but still have it in my head that the new stuff lacks the energy and soul of the old. I mean, is it not all mainstream now? More about the selling potential of the tracks than than the underground stuff was.

I agree for the most part it does but that is the whole scene in general thesedays to be brutally honest, while Old Skool will always be there and never die the actual glory days of Rave are gone, kids thesedays just have to make the best of what they have, if your in the know you'll find that there are stil loads of underground Raves happening in warehouses and with the summer almost upon us beach partys will be happening although the garda instead of catching real criminals will be closing them down and confiscating equipment.:rolleyes:

There is still a lot of great music around thesedays, im not gonna jump on the latest dance genre which is now "in vogue" (sic) now people have moved away from minimal techno, it's Deep House as ive always liked Deep House from day one (although it is certainly not peak time music)ill stick with Soulful and Funky House i still like the same music ive always liked.

Do your own thing mate and let no cu*t tell you otherwise, if your just into old skool then that is no problem there are hundreds of thousands of people just like you,my philosophy is, the glory days of Rave will never be bettered but the scene while nowhere near as good is still relatively healthy and still a lot of good music out there, im looking forward to Ibiza in September and hearing some quality uplifting House, hopefully the darkness of recent years will be gone and people will be smiling and hands in the air in clubs again instead of getting too monged.

Is mise le key

jtsuited wrote: »

haha. a track based around fm bells is soulful now??
That track couldn't be colder if it tried. Disagree all you want but you're using the wrong definition of soulful if that track is indeed what you think 'soulful' means.

What is your definition of soulful??? Here it is as i understand it.......

Soulful;"Full of or expressing deep feeling; profoundly emotional."

Now this says to me that it is subjective as one might find a particular tune soulful personally when you relate it a moment or time that was an outstanding event for you that has remained engrained on your psyche because of it........i understand fully you may not like, appreciate or rate the tune & it holds no emotion or soul for you but if you were in my shoes at the time i can remember this tune in particular you may have a different view of it.......you are fully entitled to your opinion on it.

Heres another track i find soulful.......second one Lush 3-2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCgVaLrTpr4

So to reiterate my former post......i disagree.

seannash

Is mise le key wrote: »

Now this says to me that it is subjective as one might find a particular tune soulful personally when you relate it a moment or time that was an outstanding event for you that has remained engrained on your psyche because of it........i understand fully you may not like, appreciate or rate the tune & it holds no emotion or soul for you but if you were in my shoes at the time i can remember this tune in particular you may have a different view of it.......you are fully entitled to your opinion on it.[/FONT]

no thats not the definition of soulful at all.just because it means something to you does not put it in the soulful category.i used to listen to gabba years ago.some of my fondest memories have been sitting around wit my mates listening to it.
does that make it soulful?
no,it was cold and aggressive

you can say this track holds special significance to "me" but if were not privy to that same experience that makes it so special to you we have to look at the song on its attributes.

dont take this as an attack

billybigunz

jonnny68 wrote: »

I agree for the most part it does but that is the whole scene in general thesedays to be brutally honest, while Old Skool will always be there and never die the actual glory days of Rave are gone, kids thesedays just have to make the best of what they have, if your in the know you'll find that there are stil loads of underground Raves happening in warehouses and with the summer almost upon us beach partys will be happening although the garda instead of catching real criminals will be closing them down and confiscating equipment.:rolleyes:

There is still a lot of great music around thesedays, im not gonna jump on the latest dance genre which is now "in vogue" (sic) now people have moved away from minimal techno, it's Deep House as ive always liked Deep House from day one (although it is certainly not peak time music)ill stick with Soulful and Funky House i still like the same music ive always liked.

Do your own thing mate and let no cu*t tell you otherwise, if your just into old skool then that is no problem there are hundreds of thousands of people just like you,my philosophy is, the glory days of Rave will never be bettered but the scene while nowhere near as good is still relatively healthy and still a lot of good music out there, im looking forward to Ibiza in September and hearing some quality uplifting House, hopefully the darkness of recent years will be gone and people will be smiling and hands in the air in clubs again instead of getting too monged.

Like hardcore breaks? :D:D

Is mise le key

seannash wrote: »

no thats not the definition of soulful at all.just because it means something to you does not put it in the soulful category.i used to listen to gabba years ago.some of my fondest memories have been sitting around wit my mates listening to it.
does that make it soulful?
no,it was cold and aggressive

you can say this track holds special significance to "me" but if were not privy to that same experience that makes it so special to you we have to look at the song on its attributes.

dont take this as an attack

I see your point & accept it.......someone may have fond memories of a trash metal gig but its not soulful........but i think its hard to guage music for its soulfulness based on its attributes alone as its the interpretation of the individual of a given piece of music that will lead them to say whether or not they think it has soul.

One may feel that Tchaicovsky's 1812 overture has deep soulful elements to it (i feel) & another person may feel completley unmoved or impressed by it........two different feelings, emotions & views to the same piece of music show that it is hard to catergorise a piece of music as soulful based on the attributes whithin it you feel are the source of its soulfulness, as it may not have that impact on another individual.

All of what has been said is relevant to the thread title.......if you like what you like go with the flow of what makes you feel good.......

There was an Old Rave tune that had girl sing these lyrics in it can you help ID...

Music is fundamental for the soul

gebbel

OK many of you will not have been at these gigs but these were the ones that still inspire me:

Johnny Moy & Billy Scurry in the Temple of Sound 1995 (regular nights)
Francois in the UFO 1995 (Friday nights)
Leftfield & the Chemical Brothers, Point theatre 1995
Billy Nasty, UCD student bar 1996
Carl Cox, Redbox 1997 (when he wasn't mixing Blur songs into his mixes)
Paul Oakenfold, Redbox 1997
Laurent Garnier Redbox, '97 or '98 not sure
The 1st Homelands

Of course there are many many more but the above gigs are just lodged in there!

seannash

gebbel wrote: »

OK many of you will not have been at these gigs but these were the ones that still inspire me:

Johnny Moy & Billy Scurry in the Temple of Sound 1995 (regular nights)
Francois in the UFO 1995 (Friday nights)
Leftfield & the Chemical Brothers, Point theatre 1995
Billy Nasty, UCD student bar 1996
Carl Cox, Redbox 1997 (when he wasn't mixing Blur songs into his mixes)
Paul Oakenfold, Redbox 1997
Laurent Garnier Redbox, '97 or '98 not sure
The 1st Homelands

Of course there are many many more but the above gigs are just lodged in there!

you have to realise that there certain emotonal attachments to those gigs.maybe you went with friends and had the time of your lives.

i know that if i go to a gig now its not the same as when i went with al my mates back when i was 18.the music isnt necessarily any better or worse but the circumstances have changed.

have you been to many gigs in the past while(oldskool ones dont count;) )

Is mise le key

gebbel wrote: »

OK many of you will not have been at these gigs but these were the ones that still inspire me:

Francois in the UFO 1995 (Friday nights)

Of course there are many many more but the above gigs are just lodged in there!

Went there regularly back then.......heres a mix from there courtesy of Mr. Springs site......

Francois 05/03/1995
http://www.mediafire.com/?wdsfomdjgoc

Is mise le key

gebbel wrote: »

OK many of you will not have been at these gigs but these were the ones that still inspire me:

Billy Nasty, UCD student bar 1996

Of course there are many many more but the above gigs are just lodged in there!

All these were Originally Posted by djhaxman,

djhaxman wrote:

Here's that mix, I don't know the name of it, normally his mixes were named after the month they were released or had a title, this one I'm not sure where it came from, hopefully it's the one you're after

Side A : http://www.mediafire.com/?nmwwzin2z1y
Side B: http://www.mediafire.com/?otzjzdlmemn

Billy Nasty - Groove
Side 1 : http://www.mediafire.com/?h4u2n0z0ylj
Side 2 : http://www.mediafire.com/?njntjnvvj5n

Billy Nasty - July '95
Side A : http://www.mediafire.com/?3mmdjhjzdhl
Side B : http://www.mediafire.com/?mvnnj3m35mu

Billy Nasty - May '95
Side A : http://www.mediafire.com/?wgdcndyzjtv
Side B : http://www.mediafire.com/?zimmieygwmg

Billy Nasty - Nov '95
Side A : http://www.mediafire.com/?m2zuhztzd0d
Side B : http://www.mediafire.com/?iq5mzz2btzw

Billy Nasty - Arches
Side A :http://www.mediafire.com/?zzwmdzdyzmm
Side B :http://www.mediafire.com/?ldmyojydqod

Nastism '96 -
Side A : http://www.mediafire.com/?w3je0dmxikm
Side B : http://www.mediafire.com/?nttttvmd2yq

Billy Nasty - Narcissus
Side A : http://www.mediafire.com/?zgwivozmqmj
Side B : http://www.mediafire.com/?mnuityfywlz

Billy Nasty and Sasha - Revolutions
Side A : http://www.mediafire.com/?idy2lznztek
Side B : http://www.mediafire.com/?ewmjgwkm4et

Billy Nasty - June '95
Side A : http://www.mediafire.com/?qk3zqymtitm
Side B : http://www.mediafire.com/?ydov3rd2j0w

Billy Nasty - Gravity (1996)
Side A : http://www.mediafire.com/?j1je44knmw1
Side B : http://www.mediafire.com/?jejyjtnm2m0

Billy Nasty DJ Set from the Ormond Multimedia Centre, Dublin 25/07/96
Side A : http://www.mediafire.com/?ztymgmqtutm
Side B : http://www.mediafire.com/?wwqzzmmozmk

Billy Nasty - Alauan
Side A : http://www.mediafire.com/?eymmtxvydkw
Side B : http://www.mediafire.com/?nmt1ymj5rzn

gebbel

No way! I'm drooling looking at all those mixes! thanks a lot is mise. I'm so glad I started this thread! It's great talking to folks of like minds! I've not had that for nearly a decade!

bohsboy

gebbel wrote: »

OK folks I got into dance music in a big way in 1995. From then until now, I pretty much listen to nothing else. I have lots of tunes, live DJ mixes, albums etc that I listen to all the time. It was pointed out to me recently by a cousin of mine (after trawling through my mp3 player) that my musical taste is getting a little stale. I prefer the harder house and techno of the old era, if I can call it that. As long as it had a little kick in it, I liked it. I loved the clubs. I have many downloads of great club nights from the likes of Carl Cox, Digweed, Oakenfold etc..you know the people. The stuff they are churning out now does very little for me. I guess nostalgia plays its part also.

Jesus, I could have wrote that post myself. I would get embarrassed now if any of my mates could see my recent playlists. I cant get that era out of my head, the tunes were just so original and I have great memories attached to individual tracks.

As an earlier poster said, some people love 70's or 80's music, cant see the harm in liking a certain era of music. I say enjoy it....and listen to my weekly show on Kitchen Sync...as advertised below!