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VRT 6000KM rule

  • 21-04-2010 2:15pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭


    Anyone know how sticky they are with this.
    Am bringing in a car which will have ~ 5500KM by the time I get it to dublin.
    I can put the other 500KM on if it means avoiding VAT.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    depadz wrote: »
    Anyone know how sticky there are with this.
    Am bringing in a car which will have ~ 5500KM by the time I get it to dublin.
    I can put the other 500KM on it it means avoiding VAT.

    do a few dyno runs :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,167 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Buy the car on a Friday meaning you have till Monday afternoon to VRT it and by then you can easily do 500km.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,482 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    They are pretty anal on this rule as it means additional revenue for the VAT man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    take the long way home..... seriously not worth it,
    if you dont be prepared for them to give you a large tub of vaseline and ask you to bend over... as they look for more money from you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭rebel.ranter


    I would not take any chances or trust any response on an internet forum. 500km would be an easy number to knock up over a weekend as suggested, make the purchase trip for the car into a mini holiday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭depadz


    thanks all.. will ensure its over the 6000KM mark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭CarMuppet


    depadz wrote: »
    Anyone know how sticky they are with this.
    Am bringing in a car which will have ~ 5500KM by the time I get it to dublin.
    I can put the other 500KM on if it means avoiding VAT.


    ...and the car must be over 6 months old too...

    Best of luck with your new car,
    CarMuppet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭depadz


    had the 6mths covered alright (is 9 mths old), just learned of the 6000KM now..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭CarMuppet


    Excellent.... great to hear Vatman won't get more cash off another motorist!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Gophur


    Revenue have been known to ask for a copy of the invoice for the car to see the mileage on it. Be prepared for a shafting!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭depadz


    would they have the milage on the invoice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭knifey_spoonie


    Sorry scrap what i said, i was wrong. (deleted)

    Your other option is if you are exporting the car the dealer has the option to charge you the ex vat figure and then you pay irish vat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭Shane732


    Gophur wrote: »
    Revenue have been known to ask for a copy of the invoice for the car to see the mileage on it. Be prepared for a shafting!

    Shouldn't really matter though as the legislation is in relation to when the car is imported but bought.... The additional mileage could have been done up the North/UK and the car towed back to Ireland.

    If they got that ratty I'd go for the line "well I'll have to contact the ombudsman about this - there was over 6K on the car when I imported it".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭Shane732


    The rule is 6 month OR 6000 km you dont need to reach the two.

    I'm afraid not my son.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭Shane732


    depadz wrote: »
    would they have the milage on the invoice?

    Yes sometimes.

    Your other option is to say you bought it from a private individual...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    Also the car has to be at least 6 months old from date of order rather than the date of collection of the vehicle. So if you put down a deposit on a car before the 6 months is up, you're liable for VAT aswell. I know someone who learned this the hard way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Jimbo wrote: »
    Also the car has to be at least 6 months old from date of order rather than the date of collection of the vehicle. So if you put down a deposit on a car before the 6 months is up, you're liable for VAT aswell. I know someone who learned this the hard way.

    the private seller excuse mitigates this, if its a particularly nice car ill get her up to 6001km for you :D


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,714 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Not saying this is the right thing to do or otherwise OP but you would want to run up a fair bit more that 6000kms. Obviously if you go in with 6001kms for example and the car isn't on a trailer it's clear you imported it with less than 6000kms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭depadz


    Got this registered after getting KMs up to 6100 or so.
    They did check it and made reference beforehand that if it wasn't up to the 6000KM mark, there would be a VAT charge.
    Thanks again for info..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,795 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    depadz wrote: »
    Got this registered after getting KMs up to 6100 or so.
    They did check it and made reference beforehand that if it wasn't up to the 6000KM mark, there would be a VAT charge.
    Thanks again for info..

    The question now is - Did you actual export it VAT free from UK dealer due to it being less than 6 months old or did you pay the VAT in UK.
    If you didnt pay VAT anywhere, thats a great saving but not exactly legit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭depadz


    it wasn't less than 6 mths old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Shane732 wrote: »
    Shouldn't really matter though as the legislation is in relation to when the car is imported but bought.... The additional mileage could have been done up the North/UK and the car towed back to Ireland.

    If they got that ratty I'd go for the line "well I'll have to contact the ombudsman about this - there was over 6K on the car when I imported it".

    so maybe its the wording of the limit that could swing it in your favour...you might have bought it with 5500km on it but it had > 6000km when you IMPORTED IT cos you took the long way home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭dergside


    depadz wrote: »
    Anyone know how sticky they are with this.
    Am bringing in a car which will have ~ 5500KM by the time I get it to dublin.
    I can put the other 500KM on if it means avoiding VAT.

    A couple of years ago I collected a car for my sister and cleared it. It had just over 6k km's when collected from the dealer and a few hundred more before it was home. It was chosen specifically because it had the appropriate amount of mileage.

    The VRT folks went through it with a fine tooth comb to try and find a hole in the paperwork. There wasn't one, it was a straightforward transaction.

    My distinct impression though was that if I had tried to pull a fast one by taking the long way home in order to bring it over 6k km's then they would have pulled me up on it. They checked the recorded mileage at the time of sale with the UK dealer, etc. There was potentially a couple of grand of VAT to gain, so they were well focussed on seeing if they could get it.


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