What is the point of TV3/ 3e

ftakeith

TV3 was set up in 1998
Has it changed irish tv?
I don't think so
Xpose, why is this on tv, does anyone watch it, who watches it, from celebs giving interviews to sell their products, the production is like it came from a college
TV3 Sport has improved but I only watch the sport because I am interested, if tv3 were not there RTEtv would show it,
TV3 news is okay, bit more balanced than RTEtv, Tonight with Vincent Brown is good but it should be on at 10pm,
why do they show most of ITV programmes, as most persons have bbc, UTV or ITV on cable and satellite, it mostly rubbish and also show bbc programmes
Why do they show American Idol, it has zero interest for ireland,
Home grown Daytime programmes are bad, programmes about how celebs haver fallen with irish zero celebs given their zero insight on each one
Ireland should just have one TV channel instead of 4-5
Thank you for your time.

tipperaryboy

I agree why are tv3 still showing a large amount of utv/itv shows?
Surely they can produce more irish programmes?
and i thought they had the former head of channel 4 working for them.

actuallylike

The problem is, TV3 don't have the taxpayers funding them. If RTE make their own programme and it goes tits up (and let's be honest, they usually do), they just lick their wounds and start again but TV3 doesn't have this security, if they take a chance on their own program and it flops, they have to recoup the losses.
That's why they take the cheap option of importing ITV and American programmes. Anyone been watching what they've got on at 1am these days?
"Can Fat Teens Hunt?", I shít you not, they get a load of fat kids and put them in a tribe and get them running around with spears, absolute car crash tv!!!

Srooney03

3E is always good for something at night,The office,Family Guy,American dad...WTF i love that bloody channel so let not hear any more:D

ftakeith

Srooney03 wrote: »

3E is always good for something at night,The office,Family Guy,American dad...WTF i love that bloody channel so let not hear any more:D

those programmes are on bbc3 and itv4

I like those programmes if 3e was not around rte would have shown them

Minstrel27

Ah right but if 3e was FTA it would be swell. Whats next? What's the point of Bravo?

iseegirls

ftakeith wrote: »

those programmes are on bbc3 and itv4

I like those programmes if 3e was not around rte would have shown them

What's to say RTE would have shown them? They never showed Seinfeld at all - until TV3 picked it up. Look at the RTE schedules and you'll see good American shows on at midnight, when they could properly be shown on a 9pm slot on 3e, TV3 or TG4.

And I don't recieve BBC3 or ITV4

endakenny

ftakeith wrote: »

TV3 news is okay....

I disagree. I'm not over the moon about RTÉ, but at least it makes a decent effort in terms of coverage of national and international news i.e. RTÉ weekend news bulletins are much more concise than those on TV3. Furthermore, RTÉ has had correspondents on the scene of major events on the European mainland and even managed to have Margaret Ward present in China to cover the recent earthquake, in which 700 died. There should be a new news organisation established to which TV3 could contract news gathering. Since TV3 shows many ITV shows, it consider sourcing international news from ITN, which has an historic reputation for UK and world news gathering.

Sam Russell

endakenny wrote: »

Since TV3 shows many ITV shows, it consider sourcing international news from ITN, which has an historic reputation for UK and world news gathering.

Does not that answer the OP point. TV3 is doing the same as UTV, only less so - deflecting the ITV signal. They originate next to nothing of any value. Their production values are apalling, and their content is juvenile at best. Perhaps infantile would be more accurate.

Most of their own production is aimed at females.

endakenny

Sam Russell wrote: »

Does not that answer the OP point. TV3 is doing the same as UTV, only less so - deflecting the ITV signal. They originate next to nothing of any value. Their production values are apalling, and their content is juvenile at best. Perhaps infantile would be more accurate.

An example of TV3 stupidity is delaying the remaining episodes of The Krypton Factor to make way for football. I started watching the most recent series on TV3 but, when football was shown on TV3, I watched the remaining episodes on UTV. I think that Sky had the UK rights for the Tuesday night matches. One of the matches shown on TV3 involved two teams from the European mainland. I doubt that such a match would get a significant number of viewers on terrestrial TV in the Republic. Why is TV3 showing Champions' League Tuesday night matches when ITV does not show them?

bluemachaveli

Srooney03 wrote: »

3E is always good for something at night,The office,Family Guy,American dad...WTF i love that bloody channel so let not hear any more:D

Same here, I watch 3e most nites before I turn in. The Office is heroic!

Minstrel27

endakenny wrote: »

An example of TV3 stupidity is delaying the remaining episodes of The Krypton Factor to make way for football. I started watching the most recent series on TV3 but, when football was shown on TV3, I watched the remaining episodes on UTV. I think that Sky had the UK rights for the Tuesday night matches. One of the matches shown on TV3 involved two teams from the European mainland. I doubt that such a match would get a significant number of viewers on terrestrial TV in the Republic. Why is TV3 showing Champions' League Tuesday night matches when ITV does not show them?

TV3 are contractually obliged to show a Champions League game every Tuesday.

You ask why TV3 are showing a game on Tuesday when ITV aren't? TV3 although with a similar schedule to ITV, is not an ITV region. they wont mirror everything ITV do.

icdg

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Ah right but if 3e was FTA it would be swell. Whats next? What's the point of Bravo?

Agreed. No more "What's the point of" threads please. I'll leave the two that exist open though.

As for the answer to the OP's question, it is of course "to make money for its shareholders". Just like any business.

ftakeith

icdg wrote: »

Agreed. No more "What's the point of" threads please. I'll leave the two that exist open though.

As for the answer to the OP's question, it is of course "to make money for its shareholders". Just like any business.

http://www.tv3.ie/pr_sub.php?type=1&view_pr=129

another low for tv3, there is no public interest in this story, Henry is not in love with this lady, he will divorce her when he get permission to stay here or when he gets a irish passport, he has a girlfriend or wife in nigeria, he would have another extended family waiting to come here, no context in this story

I worked in the Dept of Justice's Asylum division, Henry is just another scam artist from Nigeria trying to get into Ireland from the banana republic of Nigeria, I loved refusing these applications and the lady's tears mean nothing for my colleagues here in Justice

what is next a drug addict appealing for a discount off his drug dealer for another fix

tv3's midweek programme had a farmer talking about his marriage with a very young eastern european lady in another sham love marriage here in ireland

sybil and martin should be brought to the courts for the misuse of media culture in ireland

celticfc

ftakeith wrote: »

http://www.tv3.ie/pr_sub.php?type=1&view_pr=129tv3's midweek programme had a farmer talking about his marriage with a very young eastern european lady in another sham love marriage here in ireland

sybil and martin should be brought to the courts for the misuse of media culture in ireland

For someone who doesn't see "the point in TV3", you seem to watch a lot of it.

To be fair stories like you mention above are pretty commonplace on shows like "This Morning" on ITV and similar.

iseegirls

endakenny wrote: »

Why is TV3 showing Champions' League Tuesday night matches when ITV does not show them?

Are you being serious when you ask that question?

endakenny

iseegirls wrote: »

Are you being serious when you ask that question?

Yes. I do not understand why a broadcaster would have the rights to some Champions League matches and not have the rights to other matches in the same tournament. Is it not the case that all matches in a football tournament are available on terrestrial TV or not at all?

Minstrel27

endakenny wrote: »

Yes. I do not understand why a broadcaster would have the rights to some Champions League matches and not have the rights to other matches in the same tournament.

UEFA do not allow one broadcaster to have all games.

celticfc

endakenny wrote: »

Yes. I do not understand why a broadcaster would have the rights to some Champions League matches and not have the rights to other matches in the same tournament. Is it not the case that all matches in a football tournament are available on terrestrial TV or not at all?

UEFA sell the UK rights and the Irish rights seperately for both individual nights. (Also in other territories) They make more money doing this.

Tuesday:
UK: Sky (all matches)
Ireland: TV3 (first pick), Setanta (second & third pick)

Wednesday:
UK: ITV1 (first pick), Sky (all other matches)
Ireland: RTE (first pick), Setanta (second & third pick)

You can only show the package you paid for.

icdg

Same as the FA Premier League, which also divides its rights between multiple broadcasters (Sky, Setanta, and ESPN). It was originally forced to do this by the European Commission but actually it appears to be working out quite well and may become more commonplace in future.

The alternative is what happens in some continental leagues, whereby the TV rights are all held by the teams and are sold on a home match basis to broadcasters (or shown on the teams own channel).

Elmo

iseegirls wrote: »

What's to say RTE would have shown them? They never showed Seinfeld at all - until TV3 picked it up.

Network 2 had it when it first started.

Ah right but if 3e was FTA it would be swell. Whats next? What's the point of Bravo?

Yeah what is the point of Bravo?

RTÉ have some shows, TV3 have other shows in the form of imports and TG4 others. They are cheap to buy in and they return revenue, Irish programming is more expensive to make for Irish Broadcasters, imports are cheaper. The shows that would not usually be seen on either RTÉ or TV3 end up on TG4 which usually tend to be the better ones IMO Oz, The Wire, True Blood, i.e. allot of HBO stuff.

actuallylike wrote: »

The problem is, TV3 don't have the taxpayers funding them. If RTE make their own programme and it goes tits up (and let's be honest, they usually do), they just lick their wounds and start again but TV3 doesn't have this security, if they take a chance on their own program and it flops, they have to recoup the losses.

However TV3 don't have to provide money towards TG4, RnaG, DAB, DTT, NSO, NCO, Cor Na nOg, Children's TV and other areas of public service broadcasting that would not be of interest to commercial broadcasters.

TV3 have the security of a strong audience share. The problem is the 30% remit, what they have done is to provide 30% of cheap programming across their Daytime and Latenight schedules. I would rather the regulator told them to have 1hour of quality Prime Time programming each day, and late night and morning TV imports to sell advertising, when TV3 add an extra hour of Irish content it usually is part of their daytime schedule so they can extend their hours on the air so they have more air time to sell.

Also now that they have 2 channels the 30% is only 15%, unless you count repeats. Hopefully TV3 and 3e provide some amount of choice.