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Having issues with landlord

  • 17-04-2010 4:40pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    I have recently discovered I can claim rent relief on the place I am staying for this year and previous years, I have gathered the forms, contacted the landlord but he doesn't seem to want to give me his PPS number or address and I need to get the cheque from revenue.. my suspicion is that he hasn't been declaring the tax and I don't know what my next step could be because he seems to keep telling me he will contact me and then never does and I am feeling frustrated and fed up :(

    Any advice?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Contact revenue and explain this to them. You are entitled to your rental tax credit. Fill in the form with as much detail as you can provide and send it off to Revenue. Revenue have seen all this before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Just concerned if I do that, the landlord will get in trouble and want to kick me out :( so thats why I am confused :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭dreamer_ire


    I'd agree with dudara. It might also be an option to let him know how much you think you will get back and that you are going ahead with the claim. A friend of mine did this with their landlord and he reduced the rent accordingly and gave her the rebate she would have gotten because it was more beneficial to him to work it that way,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    The maximum you can claim back is €400 per year (see here for more info).

    Maybe you can get your landlord to factor that into the rent as a previous poster suggested.

    Ideally though, your tenancy should be registed with the PRTB in order to provide you with some protection. Has your landlord done this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    dudara wrote: »
    The maximum you can claim back is €400 per year (see here for more info).

    Maybe you can get your landlord to factor that into the rent as a previous poster suggested.

    Ideally though, your tenancy should be registed with the PRTB in order to provide you with some protection. Has your landlord done this?

    No, I don't think he has and if I try and search for our house, It isn't registerd :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    It's no secret a lot of people don't pay tax on rental income. It's not fair of course!
    BUT tax evasion aside, imagine if you were in his shoes. You found a good tenant, agreed with them that they'd pay cash, then after a few months the tenant turns around and looks for your ppsn completely hanging you out to dry with the rev comms. is that fair?
    You can go back 4 years for relief so you're in no hurry really. If you're thinking of moving out just wait until you move out, get your deposit back and then insist on getting his ppsn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    tenchi-fan wrote: »
    It's no secret a lot of people don't pay tax on rental income. It's not fair of course!
    BUT tax evasion aside, imagine if you were in his shoes. You found a good tenant, agreed with them that they'd pay cash, then after a few months the tenant turns around and looks for your ppsn completely hanging you out to dry with the rev comms. is that fair?
    You can go back 4 years for relief so you're in no hurry really. If you're thinking of moving out just wait until you move out, get your deposit back and then insist on getting his ppsn.

    Is it fair that someone prevents you from claiming your €400 just because they've been cheating the revenue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    nex12 wrote: »
    No, I don't think he has and if I try and search for our house, It isn't registerd :(

    If it was registered, he is supposed to provide you with a copy of the registration documents. It sounds unlikely that the tenancy is registered.

    I'd contact the PRTB and register a complaint against him as well as going to Revenue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    You can claim the relief without having hte landlord's PPS number - just fill in what details you know.

    If he isn't registered with the PRTB, you can still make a complaint, he can't.

    If you have been there longer than 6 months, he can ask you to leave / evict you without good reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    dudara wrote: »
    If it was registered, he is supposed to provide you with a copy of the registration documents. It sounds unlikely that the tenancy is registered.

    I'd contact the PRTB and register a complaint against him as well as going to Revenue.

    ... and then start looking for a new house!

    Seriously though you didn't even realise you were entitled before. Why are you feeling feeling frustrated and fed up? Don't let it get you down! There's no hurry. Wait until you're ready to move out and then start putting pressure on him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    Victor wrote: »
    You can claim the relief without having hte landlord's PPS number - just fill in what details you know..

    She could make the claim regardless, but if the revenue ask to see receipts it could cause a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    tenchi-fan wrote: »
    ... and then start looking for a new house!

    Seriously though you didn't even realise you were entitled before. Why are you feeling feeling frustrated and fed up? Don't let it get you down! There's no hurry. Wait until you're ready to move out and then start putting pressure on him.

    Mainly because we need the money, we are really struggling with one wage :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭Bluefox21


    Just tell him if he's not registered to take the amount owed off the annual rent or else you'l claim for it...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Bluefox21 wrote: »
    Just tell him if he's not registered to take the amount owed off the annual rent or else you'l claim for it...

    If the landlord had two braincells- he'd never agree to this- as you could retrospectively claim for upto the previous 4 years, immediately on vacating the tenancy.

    OP- as Victor has said- you do not need the landlords PPS number or his address, simply the address of the property being rented. There is a hyperactive section in the Revenue Commissioners who will play join the dots for you.......

    Tax evasion is stupid- the landlord will get caught out sooner or later. If you're genuinely friendly with him/her- I'd give them 'x' amount of time to regularise their tax situation- before making the claim. You don't owe them this though.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I am going to contact him again next week, I am sick of being ignored and him telling me he will get back to me and that he never does. I don't want to get him in trouble because all in all, he has been pretty good to me but the way I see it, I am entitled to that money and due to my circumstance, I need that money. :(

    He was supposed to contact me Friday and I mean who can't tell me their address or PPS over the phone?? I don't want to hassle him, I just want what is owed to me :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭dellas1979


    Yep, fill in the forms regardless. As one poster said, you dont need his PPS number - I didnt, but if they do, I am sure that they will be in contact.

    Go for it and dont be so sensitive about the landlord's feelings or getting him in trouble.


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