Department of Justice working on Blocking Boards.ie*

BaconZombie

FOI shows Department of Justice planning internet blocking for Ireland


In January we filed a Freedom of Information Request with the Department of Justice asking for all documents dealing with internet blocking by ISPs.
Last month the response came back – refusing access to almost every internal document!

Sometimes, however, it can be informative to know what is being concealed. When answering FOI requests, departments prepare a schedule of records listing each document they hold by data and title.

Looking at this list (available here) it becomes clear that for some time now the Department of Justice has been proposing the introduction of internet blocking in Ireland – and has been doing this under the radar, without any public consultation or legislative approval.
Indeed, it is clear from the list that the Department is not planning on introducing legislation but instead intends to introduce this new form of censorship without any legal basis, based on the now discredited Norwegian and Danish models.

(Item #39 is typical. While we don’t have the content, the description – “Copy detailed minutes of meeting between OIS [Office of Internet Safety] and An Garda Siochána 30/07/08 re proposed introduction of blocking technology – 4 pages” – is revealing. Item #48 shows that the discussions have gone as far as “operational procedures”.)

We’ll be writing more about this shortly – in the meantime, Karlin Lillington has a good piece in today’s Irish Times discussing the implications of these documents:

Putting up barriers to a free and open internet

http://www.digitalrights.ie/2010/04/16/foi-shows-department-of-justice-planning-internet-blocking-for-ireland/

bazmaiden

* searches and deletes past posts, especially the peado jokes

NothingMan

So they want to block stuff internally or a antionwide firewall like China?
I can't see that ever happening here really. But if they want to block their own workers from sites that's tickity boo with me.

TheZohanS

BaconZombie wrote: »

Department of Justice working on Blocking Boards.ie*

* misleading thread title.


/thread fail

Galvasean

TheZohan wrote: »

* misleading thread title.


/thread fail

*didn't read OP in full*

*jumps to conclusion*

bastids!!! :mad::mad::mad:

Thread title is so full of fail that i'm going to disregard the entire thing.

Minstrel27

Deleted User wrote: »

Thread title is so full of fail that i'm going to disregard the entire thing.

Aye. Thread title is a piss poor attempt at shock.

old_aussie

It's a sad day when bureaucrats make uninformed decisions for other people.:(

What's happening to freedom of speach?

Mr Benevolent

old_aussie wrote: »

It's a sad day when bureaucrats make uninformed decisions for other people.:(

What's happening to freedom of speach?

When was there freedom of speech?

Pacing Mule

old_aussie wrote: »

What's happening to freedom of speach?

Went down the toilet with the spelling lessons.

orourkeda

I'll never be able to call Roy Keane a c**t on the net ever again.

Damn clandestine department of justice net censorship.

orourkeda

old_aussie wrote: »

It's a sad day when bureaucrats make uninformed decisions for other people.:(

What's happening to freedom of speach?

As they have been doing for thousands of years and they still dont learn.

Sykk

Really?

token56

Nevermind the economy, NAMA, the government etc, if something did happen that limited the rights of internet access, there would be mass protests. This is one thing the government just shouldn't mess with.

Theta

It will die the death like the scheme they keep trying to introduce in Oz. ISP's dont want the hassle and headache and the general populace feels like they are being oppressed.

BlaasForRafa

NothingMan wrote: »

So they want to block stuff internally or a antionwide firewall like China?
I can't see that ever happening here really. But if they want to block their own workers from sites that's tickity boo with me.

get the PS employees to do some actual work? :eek:

Tigger

to whom are they blocking boards.ie

JohnK

NothingMan wrote: »

So they want to block stuff internally or a antionwide firewall like China?
I can't see that ever happening here really.

People would have said the exact same thing about Australia a few years back but look at them now with their impending firewall :mad:

biko

All mods are secret Department of Justice employees tasked with banning everyone until boards.ie cannot be posted on any more.

Antar Bolaeisk

This is the same country which can't get any form of decent internet infrastructure in place and we assume they're capable of censoring it. Yeah, sure.

Just like every other plan this country has it will be poorly implemented using at least 10 year old technology and nothing will be in place until 2020 at the earliest.

I'll believe it when I see it.

orourkeda

will this affect porn.

i need my diana doll fix

gizmo

Government bashing? Check.
Public Service bashing? Check.
Mindless hysteria? Check.
**** thread? Check.

Just another day in AH...:rolleyes:

Snake Pliisken

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

This is the same country which can't get any form of decent internet infrastructure in place and we assume they're capable of censoring it. Yeah, sure.

Just like every other plan this country has it will be poorly implemented using at least 10 year old technology and nothing will be in place until 2020 at the earliest.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Australia are worse off than us as far as quality of net infrastructure, and they're already well on their way.

People need to realise that as far as freedom goes, the net is probably the closest we're ever going to come to being able to speak your mind in a public forum, it's like the wild west, like early radio. Its success was completely unforeseen by the powers that be and we would be foolish to let them impinge on it's power. Send letters to your TD's, no matter how incompetent they are, fight this.

LD 50

Just goes to show how behind the times the people in charge of this country are if they want to use the Danish model. And how weak and easily pushed around they are.

ricman

The uk has a list of websites that all isps block its just not published.
I,M sure the dept of justice is full of web experts and programmers .
ITS like asking a mechanic for medical advice ,futile.
I doubt they have any expertise in this matter.
One of the few things we have going for us is that we are on open society with free speech and the dept of justice want to limit that.
IF ACTA goes thru all irish isps will have to block any website that has copyrighted material avaidable for download, music,books etc
Why would they want to block boards.ie ?

derfderf

orourkeda wrote: »

will this affect porn.

i need my diana doll fix

Thank god someone else around here has their priorities right.
I've never seen diana doll, she may have a date tonight.

super_furry

They're stealing my thoughts! They're stealing my thoughts!

cantankerous

Thank god. Freedom of the internet was going a little too far there for a while. We need this sort of censorship to stop the spread of dangerous ideas.

My name is URL

cantankerous wrote: »

Thank god. Freedom of the internet was going a little too far there for a while. We need this sort of censorship to stop the spread of dangerous ideas.

Apt username for that particular post tbh

douglashyde

If they can't make a machine to register a vote on; they certainly can't censor the Internet.

It is times like this that I am glad of the inability of Ireland's Goverment and Public Sector.

token56

On a side note this is an interesting development

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0416/breaking56.html

can't see it being much of a problem though, if they are able to catch you, you deserve to be punished.

orourkeda

derfderf wrote: »

Thank god someone else around here has their priorities right.
I've never seen diana doll, she may have a date tonight.

I hope she has a lot of dates.

Hopefully completely naked and jumping up and down on a plethora of mickeys

whats with the silly title, sheesh, drama much!

Karl Hungus

The government blocking the internet?!? This aggression will not stand. Where's my anonymous mask? To 4chan!