Racing Flats

Domer

I am looking for recommendations for a pair of Racing flats. My regular running shoes are Asics 2150 with Custom Ortodics, so am looking for a similar fairly neutral shoe. What options are there out there, and where is the best place to buy?

Thanks.
Domer

jailhouse_dave

http://www.forrunnersbyrunners.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=167

find the brooks t6 a super flat. you can feel the road under you but they provide a reasonable amount of cushioing, very light. have ran up to half marathon with no trouble. I also train in 2150's. Best price and service i could find.

tunney

Nike Mayflies. Definitely a racing flat. 20 euro too.

mloc123

tunney wrote: »

Nike Mayflies. Definitely a racing flat. 20 euro too.

Great shoe. I am trying to spare my current pair... any idea where to pick them up these days?

tunney

mloc123 wrote: »

Great shoe. I am trying to spare my current pair... any idea where to pick them up these days?

Nver used mine, always said I'd only use them if I hit race weight for running, never did.

mloc123

I raced in mine a bit now, couple of duathlons a 5k and a 5mile.... legs felt it for a day after alright, but I'm not exactly light. I have since bought marathoners which I use now for races but will be digging out the may flies for saturday... If I could find somewhere to buy another few pairs I would race in them more.

Bambaata

good time for this to come up. i currently don't have any racing runners and have just been using the runners i train in which are Mizuno Wave Riders. I like to look of the Mizuno Universe 3's but they don't seem to be sold in Europe :-(

Was thinking of popping out to Amphibian King tonight to have a look and get some advice from them with a view to getting something.

Krusty_Clown

Bambaata wrote: »

good time for this to come up. i currently don't have any racing runners and have just been using the runners i train in which are Mizuno Wave Riders. I like to look of the Mizuno Universe 3's but they don't seem to be sold in Europe :-(

Was thinking of popping out to Amphibian King tonight to have a look and get some advice from them with a view to getting something.

How about the Mizuno Wave Musha2? (dreadful name!). I recently picked up a pair of Wave Precision 10s, as they're lighter than the Waverider, but still have more support than a racing flat (kind of somewhere between the two shoes). The fit is exactly the same as the WaveRider. Haven't given them a try yet, as I'm waiting for Connemara to wear off.

clonliffe 22

tunney wrote: »

Nike Mayflies. Definitely a racing flat. 20 euro too.

I found these shocking,way to light and no support.The poster wears 2150's which lets face it IS A SUPPORT SHOE.
weight is not everything,maybe try a ds trainer???
Brooks do a nice racer,think its called the t5 or something along those lines.
ps the mayfly breaks down very fast so hence the price;)

clonliffe 22

tunney wrote: »

Nver used mine, always said I'd only use them if I hit race weight for running, never did.

haha didnt see this post Tunney,I reckon under 10stone atleast to wear them !!!

mloc123

Mayflies are good for 100k, which will get most ppl through a season. They have no support, that's what a flat is designed for? Otherwise you are looking at a lightweight and not a flat. I threw mine on the scales earlier... 180grams each(size 11). Lightweight marathoners are 300grams each, size 10.

T runner

Nike Lunar racers are great especially for longer races. Same volume, sole shape and cushioning as a trainer but only 170 gram each for size 8.

Winner and plenty of the elite African runners were wearing them in Paris marathon which is unusual for a mainstream shoe.

I have lunar racer's which I believe are better than lunar racer 2's.

A very simple effective shoe.

Domer

Thanks for all the input. Does Anphibian King stick racing flats... may call in to him next week if he does.

Krusty_Clown

Domer wrote: »

Thanks for all the input. Does Anphibian King stick racing flats... may call in to him next week if he does.

Amphibian King racing flats: here

daymobrew

I raced in Asics DS Trainers in the past but moved to the Asics Speedstar and really liked them. Nice cushioning.
Late last year I went lighter again with the Asics Hyperspeed but I don't like them much.

I am tempted to go to the Asics DS Racer. The previous model is available at a good price.

OP: DS Trainer and DS Racer are both stability shoes with the 'DuoMax' dual density midsole.

tisnotover

OP, I wear 2150's as well, train with DS Trainer at track/PMP runs and race in hyperspeed shoes.

Took a while to get used to racing in the hyperspeeds, but are still giving me PB's, and are good upto half marathon.

For marathon would probably go with the DS Trainer.

clonliffe 22

mloc123 wrote: »

They have no support, that's what a flat is designed for?


No mate there are differn't levels of support in racing shoes.
What have you tried yourself before?
Ds racer v Hyperspeed is a massive difference.Ds racer has duomax and hyperspeed doesnt!!!

Ceepo

Hi,

Correct me if i'm wrong but if you are wearing othotics you should only be wearing neutral runner's for training and racing as orthotics are for "correcting your stride (Gait)" and you would not be using them properly, Would have thought it should have been explained to you when getting fitted,
Back to topic
I,m wearing Nike Free 5.0 at the moment and they are brill best if used so far Love them and will be getting another pair when the wear out.

mloc123

clonliffe 22 wrote: »

No mate there are differn't levels of support in racing shoes.
What have you tried yourself before?
Ds racer v Hyperspeed is a massive difference.Ds racer has duomax and hyperspeed doesnt!!!

My thinking would be a racing flat has no support, or very little. Anything else is a light weight racer?

clonliffe 22

No mate there are differn't levels of support !!!;)

devotional1993

clonliffe 22 wrote: »

I found these shocking,way to light and no support.The poster wears 2150's which lets face it IS A SUPPORT SHOE.
weight is not everything,maybe try a ds trainer???
Brooks do a nice racer,think its called the t5 or something along those lines.
ps the mayfly breaks down very fast so hence the price;)

Mayflies gave me plantar fascitis-silly racers

Try the kswiss k-ona

Good wide fit for orthothics if needed-really light and fast without going into silly injury giving featherweights.
Wore them again today in the race and felt great.

digme

http://zerotwohero.wordpress.com/2007/01/08/unboxing-adizero-pr/
100 grams i love them

Cartman78

Hi all,

Was just about to start a new thread titled “Racing Flats” but luckily stumbled across this first.

Looking for advice on what would be the best flat to transition to from Asics Cumulus (neutral), and also if changing to flats for 10k is worth it for me? I’m 6ft and weigh 82 kilos.

Permanently stuck on a PB on 42 mins for 10k, but have doubled my mileage so far this year (for marathon in early May) and plan to do a whole bunch of speed work before target races in June and July. Not sure if I should stick to the Cumulus (which I find quite light anyway) or invest in flats?

Cheers cm

TFBubendorfer

I vaguely remember reading recommendations in a book (the P&D book, possibly) that flats are for people under 145 pounds (65 kg). That advise was for marathons, though.

TFBubendorfer

And by he way, I use the Nike Lunaracers (~180g) for my races of all distances and think they are the best racing shoe on the planet by some considerable margin.

I even used them for the Connemara Ultra last week, and my feet felt perfectly fine all the way.

shels4ever

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

And by he way, I use the Nike Lunaracers (~180g) for my races of all distances and think they are the best racing shoe on the planet by some considerable margin.

I even used them for the Connemara Ultra last week, and my feet felt perfectly fine all the way.

Nearly bought a pair of them today , but decided to hold off for a while.

superjosh9

Cartman78 wrote: »

Hi all,

Was just about to start a new thread titled “Racing Flats” but luckily stumbled across this first.

Looking for advice on what would be the best flat to transition to from Asics Cumulus (neutral), and also if changing to flats for 10k is worth it for me? I’m 6ft and weigh 82 kilos.

Permanently stuck on a PB on 42 mins for 10k, but have doubled my mileage so far this year (for marathon in early May) and plan to do a whole bunch of speed work before target races in June and July. Not sure if I should stick to the Cumulus (which I find quite light anyway) or invest in flats?

Cheers cm

Hi Cartman, I'm not sure I'd rush too soon into racing flats. I would find a pair of runners that are comfortable first -i.e- that keep you injury free, but also, for when going for a time, a pair of runners that aren't too 'soft'. The only way I can describe it is with my Asics 2130s vs my Asics 1130s. The 2130s kind of remind me of a boat, I could plod along for 10 miles and not notice anything. But as soon as I need to change direction fast, or accelerate, they're just too soft. The 1130s I find more responsive to that kind of thing. I 'feel' faster in them. I'm out of running at the moment, but I did the great run the other day for the crack to see where I am and finished in 43 mins - I took it very easy, but sprinted at the end and felt glad I was wearing the 1130s!

So, I suppose the point is maybe to find a race-day shoe, but that shoe doesn't necessarily have to be a racing flat. I've used them before, and I just find them a lot of work. Some people swear by them though, so it's best to find what's good for you.