Problems with people parking outside of your house?

Berty

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zzantara

You didn't buy and don't own the space on the public road outside your House !.
Anyone who pays Road Tax is equally entitled to park there !.
Were you under the impression that you owned this space ???

Cookie_Monster

zzantara wrote: »

Anyone who pays Road Tax is equally entitled to park there !.

no one pays this though so I guess they aren't entitled

lucy2010

What bugs me is the people who park outside your house & block you in. Like the cars gonna grow wings & fly over it !!

Berty

zzantara wrote: »

You didn't buy and don't own the space on the public road outside your House !.
Anyone who pays Road Tax is equally entitled to park there !.
Were you under the impression that you owned this space ???

Ummm are you ok?

You might want to close this thread, re-open it and start again.

zzantara

No one pays Road Tax ?
What kind of World do you inhabit ???
What are those funny coloured discs of peoples windscreens ?

thehomeofDob

zzantara wrote: »

No one pays Road Tax ?
What kind of World do you inhabit ???
What are those funny coloured discs of peoples windscreens ?

Motor tax maybe?;)

Berty

zzantara wrote: »

No one pays Road Tax ?
What kind of World do you inhabit ???
What are those funny coloured discs of peoples windscreens ?

You really need to stop drinking this early in the day. :pac::pac:

Danbo!

Bit of a Picasso?

gpjordanf1

zzantara wrote: »

You didn't buy and don't own the space on the public road outside your House !.
Anyone who pays Road Tax is equally entitled to park there !.
Were you under the impression that you owned this space ???

No you dont own it but the land is registered in your name to the center line of the road, so you are more entitled to park there than anybody else.
Put it this way you park outside my house, I'll be telling you to move immeadiately!

s_carnage

gpjordanf1 wrote: »

No you dont own it but the land is registered in your name to the center line of the road, so you are more entitled to park there than anybody else.
Put it this way you park outside my house, I'll be telling you to move immeadiately!

And I'll be telling ya were to go and take a running jump.....

Seth Brundle

gpjordanf1 wrote: »

No you dont own it but the land is registered in your name to the center line of the road, so you are more entitled to park there than anybody else.

I'm fairly sure that this is not the case. Then the road would be your property and utility companies would need permission to dig up, etc.

gpjordanf1 wrote: »

Put it this way you park outside my house, I'll be telling you to move immeadiately!

Eventually you will come across someone bigger and stronger than you!

Vanbis

lucy2010 wrote: »

What bugs me is the people who park outside your house & block you in. Like the cars gonna grow wings & fly over it !!

They can park outside all they want and yes it will still annoy me but more so when they block the driveway.

JHMEG

kbannon wrote: »

I'm fairly sure that this is not the case. Then the road would be your property and utility companies would need permission to dig up, etc.

It is true, you own the road to the filum medium as they call it (centre line), but it's somewhere that the local authority has the right to do this that and the other. This situation exists from what I know more to make house-builders liable for alterations to roads layouts as part of the PP, and also is would increase the number of folios at the Land Reg for no good reason.

Marty McFly

Its just common courtesy not to park outside someones house, like i park outside my house, but sometimes someone takes my spot yeh it gets on my nerves but you have no right to tell them to move either. Luckily for me it doesnt happen very often i could see how itd drive you mad if it happened all the time.

gpjordanf1

kbannon wrote: »

I'm fairly sure that this is not the case. Then the road would be your property and utility companies would need permission to dig up, etc.

Yes its true, I done hundreds of these land transfer maps in my past career working in an Architectural/Engineering office

kbannon wrote: »

Eventually you will come across someone bigger and stronger than you!

Was happening to me, so I just started parking there myself leaving driveway free for friends & family.

You dont need to be bigger just smarter

Cookie_Monster

zzantara wrote: »

No one pays Road Tax ?
What kind of World do you inhabit ???
What are those funny coloured discs of peoples windscreens ?

EPIC FAIL

pity it won't go any bigger

inforfun

Stee wrote: »

Bit of a Picasso?

Is that a parking place reserved for guys with an enormous penis
on a monocycle?

Seth Brundle

inforfun wrote: »

Is that a parking place reserved for guys with an enormous penis
on a monocycle?

Like me!

metzengerstein

it is annoying when people do this ,however you dont actually own the land outside your house ,

and also is it not true that the land your house is on you dont actually own ,but you can buy it up and adds value to your house and i think you can sign it as private property ..i heard this so im not sure if its correct

R.O.R

Somebody who keeps parking outside our office, but works in another building in the business park was there again on Tuesday when I got back after a collection in a junker. The opportunity was too good to miss so I parked as close as possible so that I could still get out, right behind them.

It's annoying because it's the space I use for displaying cars when people are coming in to pick up, and there are generally a couple of big vans on display around there so it can get a bit tight and when she's there it doesn't leave room for anyone to park next to the display car to transfer stuff over.

After scratching her head and looking very frustrated for about 10 mins she managed to "Austin Powers" 3 point turn her way out of the space, but came back again yesterday. Instead of blocking it in we stuck the Do Not Park Here notice on the windscreen.

If the car appears again today, it is going to be blocked in by 2 or 3 dirty great Master vans that we have out the back and they won't be going anywhere until 17.15 this evening.

We own all the land the office is on. There are no signs to say do not park here, but it's obvious it's our space. There are some cheeky feckers out there.

inforfun

kbannon wrote: »

Like me!

I bet you dont have a monocycle.

Mc Love

Why dont you park really close to the car so she cant get in!?

gpjordanf1

inforfun wrote: »

I bet you dont have a monocycle.

Isn't it called a unicycle?

cowhands

We live in a medium sized housing estate and directly across the road there is a rented house of students (which must be said never cause an ounce of trouble or noise) but there must be about 8 in the house plus their visitors coming and going so at times there could be 6 or more cars at the house.

They often parked up on the curb between my house and my direct neighbour, it never really bothered me to be honest but one day while heavily pregnant she went ape when one of the students parked her car up on the curb. It was pretty funny. My neighbours arguement was that if she had her own family or friends visiting they would have to park infront of someone elses house as the student had taken the curb - fair enough I suppose. It was pretty funny listening to the two of them argue over a curb.

inforfun

gpjordanf1 wrote: »

Isn't it called a unicycle?

You more than likely right.
I looked on google for monocycle (i am Dutch and couldnt think of a better word) and the image results gave me what i was looking for.

More on topic:

You dont want the Dutch approach for these situations.
In Holland they will make entire streets paid only parking, giving residents the possibility to buy a permit for €200 or more a year.

Seth Brundle

inforfun wrote: »

You dont want the Dutch approach for these situations.
In Holland they will make entire streets paid only parking, giving residents the possibility to buy a permit for €200 or more a year.

Its similar in Dublin city centre (and possibly other locations)

inforfun

kbannon wrote: »

Its similar in Dublin city centre (and possibly other locations)

Fair enough.
I am talking about parts of cities in Holland not even close to city centres of said cities.

Friends of mine had the pleasure to be living close to a shopping centre. The centre itself had more than enough parking which costs €1 for 4 hours during weekdays. In the weekend it was more expensive but still not a fortune.
Still people rather walked more and parked outside the centre.
Solution was to make the entire area paid only till shops closedand force people living there to spend €200 on a permit. 1 per household only.
My friends had 2 cars.... One of them usually only home after shops closed. So no problem there.
Apart from the weekend when he had to make sure not to be parked in front of his own place anymore after the clock hit 9 am because he would end up with a parking fine for sure.

DUBLINHITMAN

Heard a funny few funny storys about this topic
one guy was so angry about people parking outside his house he ordered
some top soil and just left it outside his drive way so no one could park there
and another time he used to wait untill they parked there and when they locked there car up he would go out and scatter loads of bread crumbs over the car and all around it
lol
the birds were delighted but I'd hate to be the owner

Very petty acts in fairness but Still made his point lol

BigEejit

DUBLINHITMAN wrote: »

he would go out and scatter loads of bread crumbs over the car and all around it
lol
the birds were delighted but I'd hate to be the owner

I've seen this in action in London ... there was a disused gym on our street above a supermarket that was taken over/converted by one of those dodgy sounding african churches and literally the whole street which used to be fine for parking became a madhouse with no parking any time of day or night, people getting dents in their cars and generally really crap parking. It was a regular occurence for the bin lorry not being able to go up the street because of people parked a foot or more away from the kerb (narrow street, parking both sides)

I dont know who started it but the badly parked cars used get get fine breadcrumbs scattered on them .... the pigeons used to be pecking the cars for hours. My next door neighbour used to throw stuff out the upstairs window of his house onto cars that didnt have the green and blue greenwich parking permit on them .....

Of course it backfired a bit because every car on the street used to get some bird crap on it ... but the ones that got the breadcrumbs on them were covered in crap.

But it worked.

corktina

can I ask those on here with no offstreet parking who regard the space outside their house as "theirs"...where do your visitors park?

It always fascinated me at my Sisters place (in the UK) where there is an unwritten law that you dont park across someones access. People would build themselves a parking space in the front garden and then (not wanting to block their own access by parking in the street as before) park outside the next door neighbours with the second car or visitors....

im sure a college thesis lies therein somewhere...

plissken

gpjordanf1 wrote: »

Yes its true, I done hundreds of these land transfer maps in my past career working in an Architectural/Engineering office



Was happening to me, so I just started parking there myself leaving driveway free for friends & family.

You dont need to be bigger just smarter

I can confidently say and without any equivocation that you are mistaken. The extent of ownership of ones property stretches as far as their site boundaries and no further. As if we all were to own as far as the centre of the public roadway outside our homes, it would court uncontrollable chaos.
Theoretically if that were the case, we could all go out and place great big water features and clay planting pots in the path of any road users as, if we really did own the land, who could stop us?

brembo26

as far as i knew its illegal to block the entrance or prevent someone from accessing their property?? could be wrong tho....

Theta

brembo26 wrote: »

as far as i knew its illegal to block the entrance or prevent someone from accessing their property?? could be wrong tho....

Yup if they are actually blocking the entrance to your driveway you can call the plod to have it towed.

plissken

brembo26 wrote: »

as far as i knew its illegal to block the entrance or prevent someone from accessing their property?? could be wrong tho....

I believe you are correct, however theres absolutely nothing stopping anyone from parking outside your home once the vehicular entranceway remains clear, ie they can park beside the grass median if they so wish.

Zorba

So say someone leaves a car outside your house for weeks on end with the car tax expired, what then ?

gpjordanf1

plissken wrote: »

I can confidently say and without any equivocation that you are mistaken. The extent of ownership of ones property stretches as far as their site boundaries and no further. As if we all were to own as far as the centre of the public roadway outside our homes, it would court uncontrollable chaos.
Theoretically if that were the case, we could all go out and place great big water features and clay planting pots in the path of any road users as, if we really did own the land, who could stop us?

Sorry, but you are in fact wrong, so wrong, that I will provide you with the information which is readily available from the relevant authority.

But as usual with the experts here they dont need this qualifying information because "They are fecking right and thats that"

Here's the link:

http://www.landregistry.ie/eng/Mapping/Practice_Direction_No_12_Mapping_Practice.shortcut.html

This next part is the relevant section from guess where??............ Yes Land Registry

4.3 Adjoining Roadways
Normally registration is to be made to the centre of an adjoining road if it appears to be a public road. Where however a transfer specifically excludes the adjoining half road then the adjoining half road must not be included in the registration.

Where the adjoining half road is included in the registration of a plot of land the area registered must include an area for the adjoining half road and there must be a corresponding deduction in the area described in the parent folio.

Where a transfer transfers a plot of land as outlined on the application map and the plot as outlined includes the adjoining half road the same is to be mapped accordingly and the area given is to be adopted for registration unless it appears to be obviously wrong.

Where a transfer transfers a plot of land as outlined on the application map and the plot as outlined excludes the adjoining half road, but the areas stated on the map include a separate area for the adjoining half road, the half road is to be included in the registration and the separate area given to include it is to be adopted. It is to be assumed that the adjoining half road is of no significance to the transferor unless there is some indication given to the contrary in the application.
Where a transfer transfers a plot of land as outlined on the application map and the plot as outlined excludes the adjoining half road and there is no separate area given for the adjoining half road, clarification is to be sought as to the intention of the parties as to whether the adjoining half road is to be included or excluded from the registration. In order to avoid this situation arising, attention should be drawn to the question of including the adjoining half road and its area when a map is submitted for approval prior to lodgment of the dealing. It is of course a matter for the Applicant's engineer or architect to mark the map and supply the area.

In the case of development schemes and leasehold property the Regional Manager will give a direction as to whether registration is to be made to the side or to the centre of the road.

If it appears to be a private road registration is to be as on the map submitted.

Thank you and goodnight!

mailforkev

Zorba wrote: »

So say someone leaves a car outside your house for weeks on end with the car tax expired, what then ?

If the tax is expired then just call the Guards and it will be towed. It might help were the reg plates to "disappear" somehow too.

Zorba

mailforkev wrote: »

If the tax is expired then just call the Guards and it will be towed. It might help were the reg plates to "disappear" somehow too.

Believe me i am tempted but it'd be a bit too obvious as to who done it

trellheim

AFAIR the Land Registry folio map will tell you what land is owned; Where the Local Authority has taken the road in charge then I think the situation is covered under the RTA and other LA acts.