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EUROPARKS FINE

  • 14-04-2010 10:36pm
    #1
    icewitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭


    Hi all,

    I am wondering if there is anyone put there with information regarding europarks and whether their fines are legal and if they can follow it up in court. I received a ticket after being 10 minutes late back to my car. I have looked into it and it seems that in the uk they do not follow up on the fines. Hoping i don't have to pay quite pricey E30 or E50 if i don't pay on time.

    Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks...

    :p


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  • #2
    calex71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    Hmmmm interesting, I can't say either way.

    If they do indeed have no powers the mind boggles at how many mugs coughed up to them without question. That said if it happened to me I'd be on the side of binning the fine ;) Unless.............. they have a contract to operate in a council owned carpark ? Now that would be a different kettle of fish I would think.


  • #3
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,868 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Thread here from two years ago

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55109700


  • #4
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Would you be looking into the legalities if you were fined for being 10 minutes over time when parked on the street in a pay parking area? Just curious!


  • #5
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Bryce Wrong Actress wrote: »
    Would you be looking into the legalities if you were fined for being 10 minutes over time when parked on the street in a pay parking area? Just curious!

    You'd get clamped in that case!


  • #6
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    gurramok wrote: »
    You'd get clamped in that case!

    Parking warden could have gave him a ticket as well though


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  • #7
    Mr. Presentable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Don't pay it, wait and see what happens, then, most important, report back here and let us all know what they did.


  • #8
    wyndham
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭wyndham


    http://www.ticketfighter.co.uk/private.htm

    'ONLY THE DRIVER AND THE OWNER OF THE LAND ARE A PARTY TO THE CONTRACT UNLESS THE PARKING COMPANY ACTS AS THEIR AGENT Therefore should you receive an INVOICE from a PPC as the keeper of a vehicle and you do not know who was driving, I suggest you tell them this and tell them not to contact you again. You are under no obligation whatsoever to provide any information to the PPC. Refuse to do so.'

    These fines are nonsense.


  • #9
    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    icewitch wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I am wondering if there is anyone put there with information regarding europarks and whether their fines are legal and if they can follow it up in court. I received a ticket after being 10 minutes late back to my car. I have looked into it and it seems that in the uk they do not follow up on the fines. Hoping i don't have to pay quite pricey E30 or E50 if i don't pay on time.

    Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks...

    :p

    What's your cut off?

    20 minutes should be ok?


  • #10
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    wyndham wrote: »
    http://www.ticketfighter.co.uk/private.htm

    'ONLY THE DRIVER AND THE OWNER OF THE LAND ARE A PARTY TO THE CONTRACT UNLESS THE PARKING COMPANY ACTS AS THEIR AGENT Therefore should you receive an INVOICE from a PPC as the keeper of a vehicle and you do not know who was driving, I suggest you tell them this and tell them not to contact you again. You are under no obligation whatsoever to provide any information to the PPC. Refuse to do so.'

    These fines are nonsense.

    and quoting something from the UK proves that?
    Want to provide information specific to Ireland perhaps?


  • #11
    DublinWriter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,560 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Want to provide information specific to Ireland perhaps?
    Europarks don't have access to the National Vehicle Registration Database in this country.

    While their UK operation has access to the UK national vehicle database, they don't pursue payment of self-issued penalty tickets in that jurisdiction either.


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  • #12
    wyndham
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭wyndham


    Cabaal wrote: »
    and quoting something from the UK proves that?
    Want to provide information specific to Ireland perhaps?

    The law of contract is the same.


  • #13
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    gurramok wrote: »
    You'd get clamped in that case!

    No!
    I love how people here assume (incorrectly) that all places are the same as where they are. No clamping by the Council in this town but plenty of Traffic Wardens dishing out fines. The reality for most of the country is that parking fine notices are placed first then some will clamp. More likely to get clamped in Private Carparks, actually, than on-street.


  • #14
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    wyndham wrote: »
    The law of contract is the same.

    1. No it's not. At least not when I studied it in the early 80s

    2. There's more to this than Contract.


  • #15
    mullingar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Europarks are in a lot of hospitals in the NW. (well used to be).

    They were feckers examining every car ticket, making note of the expiry time and returning to that car 5 mins after the car ticket expired.

    If you were caught, tell them to issue a fine in the post to the registered address of the car's owner.

    They have NO affiliation to the Guards or county councils, only to hospital management, so if the tickets are legal, they will have access to the vehicle database.

    If they cant post one, tell them tough (DO NOT GIVE YOUR NAME/ADDRESS)


  • #16
    gaz wac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭gaz wac


    so if you get a tickets from these guys, you can just rip it up :confused: cant be right !!! whats stopping me from parking my car there everyday and just throwing ticket away, everyday ?


  • #17
    mullingar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    I should have been clearer,

    IMO, they do not have the legal right (open to correction) to demand a fine off you,

    If I were you I would tell them to post it to my address, and I would not pay it.

    Don not give your name/address.

    Tell them to get if of the national car database (which they dont have access to), only Guards & county council do.

    If they decide to take it further, which I doubt, they may go via small claims court, the worst that could happen is you pay the fine.

    Its your call....................


  • #18
    icewitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭icewitch


    mullingar wrote: »
    I should have been clearer,

    IMO, they do not have the legal right (open to correction) to demand a fine off you,

    If I were you I would tell them to post it to my address, and I would not pay it.

    Don not give your name/address.

    Tell them to get if of the national car database (which they dont have access to), only Guards & county council do.

    If they decide to take it further, which I doubt, they may go via small claims court, the worst that could happen is you pay the fine.

    Its your call....................


    Thanks for that, think i will wait and see does a reminder come in the post..would rather spend my E30 on something else!!


  • #19
    gaz wac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭gaz wac


    like a new watch so you know when to return to your car :D


  • #20
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    icewitch wrote: »
    Thanks for that, think i will wait and see does a reminder come in the post..would rather spend my E30 on something else!!

    You choice! Great for you if you get away with it but you don't seem at any point to accept you were late back to the car and should pay a parking fine. As said before, if on a street you would have been fined and possibly clamped for being 10 minutes late. Bully for you but accept you were fundamentally in the wrong all the way with this.


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