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Foreskin restoration

  • 13-04-2010 10:06pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 45


    Hi,
    I know this issue has been raised in the main circumcision thread already but I thought I'd start a new thread. Has anyone tried foreskin restoration or know someone who has? Was it successful? I know it's not a perfect "restoration" but it's something I'm very interested in.

    Also does anyone know any doctors or urologists in Ireland who have helped men in this regard? (PM me please in regard to this)

    Any help would be greatly appreciated


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭t4k30


    Why would you want it back ?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Form, function, increase of sensitivity seem to be the main reasons.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 Trivarion


    t4k30 wrote: »
    Why would you want it back ?
    It's my choice and a personal one. Some of the reasons include those that Wibbs mentions. I have strong feelings on the issue but I don't want this thread to turn into some circumcision/no circumcision debate.

    To be clear I'm not looking for medical advice either (which I know would be contrary to the forum rules). I'm just curious whether anyone knows someone who tried to restore their foreskin. Did they opt for surgery? Did they do it in Ireland?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    I'd advise keeping the surgeon's scalpels away from your manly bits unless there's a good medical reason to do so.

    From http://www.cirp.org/pages/restore.html
    Despite the name "restoration" or "reconstruction," it is not possible to actually restore a lost foreskin. A natural foreskin contains specialized nerve endings, muscles and blood vessels that are necessary for normal sexual function and sensation. While to some degree these functions can be recreated, once the original tissue is cut off and thrown away, it can never be fully recovered.

    Nevertheless, foreskin restoration can greatly enhance the sexual experience, and will improve daily personal comfort. Restored men have reported feelings of wholeness, empowerment, and "taking back their bodies from the circumcisers."

    Interesting stuff. I had mine lopped off (for a valid medical reason) as a kid, the women prefer it lopped for some reason. At least the ones I know. Anyway, the thought of some dude with a scalpel peering at my knob with intent to mangle does not repay contemplation.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    AFAIK about this(which is feck all TBH) it involves stretching the existing skin until it grows in response to the point where it will cover the glans. I cant see how a one off surgical procedure would do it. Not unless some sort of skin graft would come into play? Again AFAIK the foreskin is very stretchy compared to other skin so...

    As confab said though it wont replace what has been lost, but if it worked and covered the glans I presume said glans would become more sensitive and less rough. There was a Ch4 programme years back that brought this up. Like I say I seem to recall stretching did the trick but took a long time. Still it seemed to work with patience(which would also suggest that for many men getting the snip stretching would work also). It would also depend on how much skin was removed in the first place I would imagine? If youve little or no leeway at all, it would be harder?

    In a way t4k30 question has validity in one way. OK I have one and very grateful for that, but if you never had one what do you think or feel you're missing, or is this more a psychological thing for you? Not that this is any less valid BTW. Women with small boobs who get implants who feel they're missing out do it for that reason rather than actual function.

    EDIT Confab's link seems to explain it a fair bit.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 Trivarion


    Wibbs wrote: »
    There was a Ch4 programme years back that brought this up. Like I say I seem to recall stretching did the trick but took a long time. Still it seemed to work with patience(which would also suggest that for many men getting the snip stretching would work also).
    I'll like to see that programme. Do you happen to remember the name? It would be very helpful.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Sorry no. It was aaaaggges ago. It was part of a programme about genital modification of all cultural sorts

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭Iderown


    Trivarion,

    Would you like to visit

    http://www.restoringforeskin.org/

    You will need to subscribe. An email address is all that is needed.

    You may browse http://www.foreskin-restoration.net/forum/
    without subscribing. You will need to subscribe before you can post or view the photo galleries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 Trivarion


    Iderown wrote: »
    Trivarion,

    Would you like to visit

    http://www.restoringforeskin.org/

    You will need to subscribe. An email address is all that is needed.

    You may browse http://www.foreskin-restoration.net/forum/
    without subscribing. You will need to subscribe before you can post or view the photo galleries.
    Thanks for the excellent links. I tried looking for sites but most looked terrible or were trying to sell very dodgy looking devices. :D


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Form.

    While the other two might be issues.
    It is more aesthetically pleasing without the turtle neck. No?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    Moonbaby wrote: »
    While the other two might be issues.
    It is more aesthetically pleasing without the turtle neck. No?
    I disagree.

    It's no more aesthetically pleasing than a vagina with the labia removed is more aesthetically pleasing than a normal one.

    The bizarre position of considering a circumcised penis to be more aesthetically pleasing than a normal one probably comes down to the fact that the majority of penises a modern person will see in their lifetime will be those of porn stars, most likely US porn stars, most of whom, by virtue of being from the US, will have been circumcised.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Plus one. As HD said it's entirely fashion driven as far as appearance goes. The US circumcises infants as a routine. Going back to Victorian times as a "cleanliness" thing and more, a prophylactic against excessive masturbation, more than any medical issue. Indeed it can be difficult to stop them as a mate of mine found out. They did the usual "we know best" but he wouldnt hear of it. Of course its a nice little extra earner on the bill too.

    The ancient Greeks found it disgusting to be chopped, as did the Romans. Hence the Jewish rite didnt make it into christianity. It was actually one of the first sticking points for the new church. So the look or not is fashion/cultural. Objectively one could argue aesthetics on both sides. The turtle neck may be eeuuuuw to some, and a hardened glans and scar on the cut penis may be eeuuuuw to others.

    For actual medical conditions such as intractable phimosis where no alternative is viable then yes, of course, but not for the "look". TBH if my foreskin looked like the creature from the pit there's no way I would have it removed. The function and sensitivity in it alone, never mind in the head far outweighs any aesthetic.

    Also like HD says women come in all sorts of shapes and sizes in the appearance of their genitals. Some much "neater" than others. Imagine the uproar if a man went over to the Ladies lounge and suggested removing "excessive" tissue from the labia as it might be more "aesthetically pleasing" and see how far he would get. Women rightfully get ticked off if a man suggests a full hollywood wax and that grows back and has no sexual function as such. Damn right too.

    Sadly pron has even affected some women out there who get their labia reduced so they look like porn actresses. Mad.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    Re: labiaplasty, have a look at this:
    NSFW


    I'd be curious to know how many guys elect to have circumcisions for cosmetic reasons.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'd reckon that a few american men would to fit in. I know of a neighbour of a mate who got it done because his wife preferred the look(she was american).

    There does seem to be a bit of a fetishistic vibe to some of it. For want of a better description. At the slightest suggestion of anything wrong with the foreskin and its lop it off with a certain we belong to a group thing to it. Again Id reckon more american men would fall into this category.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Re: labiaplasty, have a look at this:
    "surgical improvement" of the labia. I got that far and to continue would have me kicking my laptop across the room and hunting down the money grubbing "doctors" who promote and perform such procedures. Anger isnt in it. :mad:

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    not the first video of that type I've seen. Its a not uncommon procedure unfortunately. The report hits it bang on, its very much a media and pron driven thing. Totally unnecessary in all but a tiny tiny tiny number of cases.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 Trivarion


    Dr Galen wrote: »
    not the first video of that type I've seen. Its a not uncommon procedure unfortunately. The report hits it bang on, its very much a media and pron driven thing. Totally unnecessary in all but a tiny tiny tiny number of cases.
    Just like male circumcision then.


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