Ireland F'n Rocks

Dragons Revenge

/tourist

No really. It's a goddamn shame we don't have have the scenery that's in Ireland or any other place in Europe. Ireland memorializes its structures more than in the states. For instance, in a small city close to where I grew up they're looking to tear down one of the oldest buildings in the state. By comparison, I see Ireland either preserving it or simply keeping the outer structure and using it for some other business. Where here it would simply demolished entirely. There's no regard for history here.
That's just an example. I just want to say, I love eireann.

You haven't seen crystal swing yet have you?

Rented Mule

Dragons Revenge wrote: »

/tourist

No really. It's a goddamn shame we don't have have the scenery that's in Ireland or any other place in Europe. Ireland memorializes its structures more than in the states. For instance, in a small city close to where I grew up they're looking to tear down one of the oldest buildings in the state. By comparison, I see Ireland either preserving it or simply keeping the outer structure and using it for some other business. Where here it would simply demolished entirely. There's no regard for history here.
That's just an example. I just want to say, I love eireann.

How do you 'memorializes' a structure in Wisconsin ?

Dragons Revenge

Rented Mule wrote: »

How do you 'memorializes' a structure in Wisconsin ?

You spell "memorialize" correctly for one thing....

You don't tear it down for more farmland for another.

Dragons Revenge

Deleted User wrote: »

You haven't seen crystal swing yet have you?

No.

Jesus Wept

It'd be a great country if ya could only roof it.

Conversely, the US has amazing natural scenery. See Yellowstone, Yosemite, Grand Canyon etc.

Fallen Buckshot

Deleted User wrote: »

Conversely, the US has amazing natural scenery. See Yellowstone, Yosemite, Grand Canyon etc.

hah if i wanted to see a big gash id go to Amsterdam :pac:

My name is URL

Glad to see you're enjoying the place since you got here!.. so, you didn't mention bombs, then?

Carry

Dragons Revenge wrote: »

/tourist

No really. It's a goddamn shame we don't have have the scenery that's in Ireland or any other place in Europe. Ireland memorializes its structures more than in the states. For instance, in a small city close to where I grew up they're looking to tear down one of the oldest buildings in the state. By comparison, I see Ireland either preserving it or simply keeping the outer structure and using it for some other business. Where here it would simply demolished entirely. There's no regard for history here.
That's just an example.

Here neither. Unless it serves the tourism industry. You fell for it, didn't you?

Dragons Revenge wrote: »

I just want to say,
I love eireann.

Bus Eireann? Iarnrod Eireann? Met Eireann? Dail Eireann? Raidio Teilifis Eireann?
You can't be serious.:eek:

Orange69

Dragons Revenge wrote: »

/tourist

No really. It's a goddamn shame we don't have have the scenery that's in Ireland or any other place in Europe. Ireland memorializes its structures more than in the states. For instance, in a small city close to where I grew up they're looking to tear down one of the oldest buildings in the state. By comparison, I see Ireland either preserving it or simply keeping the outer structure and using it for some other business. Where here it would simply demolished entirely. There's no regard for history here.
That's just an example. I just want to say, I love eireann.

Will you ever f-off, Ireland is a rotting dump with about as much charm as an Alsatian after a botched head swap operation. I was glad to escape when I did!
Ever been to NYC?

InkSlinger67

This thread is wrong for so many reasons!

*Grabs coat and plane ticket*

BraziliaNZ

Orange69 wrote: »

Will you ever f-off, Ireland is a rotting dump with about as much charm as an Alsatian after a botched head swap operation. I was glad to escape when I did!
Ever been to NYC?

you must like something about it if you're posting on an Irish site. Anyway where do you live?

bonerm

Dragons Revenge wrote: »

/tourist

No really. It's a goddamn shame we don't have have the scenery that's in Ireland or any other place in Europe. Ireland memorializes its structures more than in the states. For instance, in a small city close to where I grew up they're looking to tear down one of the oldest buildings in the state. By comparison, I see Ireland either preserving it or simply keeping the outer structure and using it for some other business. Where here it would simply demolished entirely. There's no regard for history here.
That's just an example. I just want to say, I love eireann.

I know we do a lot of bitching here wrt to Ireland and you do make some salient points. Unfortunately however we're not comparing ourselves with the United States (or other 3rd world plantations). We're annoyed because we woke up one morning and were told the bad news that our entire "economic miracle" was a complete lie and that we actually fell short of our of countries we should have aspired to be more like (places like Sweden, Finland, Switzerland, Germany etc).

So don't get me wrong. I wake up every morning, have a shower, dry my balls on my United States flag towel and thank Void I'm living in Ireland rather than America.

Executive Steve

You should go and check out Newgrange, it's a really quick trip now they've built a motorway through it, and the road is always lovely and quiet because all the spackers who bought houses out there on 95% mortgages at the height of the boom have lost their jobs and aren't clogging up traffic.

Yakult

tis a beautiful country when the sun shines but ran by fools into the ground.

Go to Killarney

Dragons Revenge

Hahaha, well I guess it's easy to praise it if I dont live here. It would be the same thing if one of you came to the US and starting singing its praises. I'm just going off off the scenery and the simple fact that....I'm here. I guess I have the advantage of not actually living here so I don't have to deal with the politcs. But no matter what, it's pretty to look at.

And yeah the US isn't without its natural beauty; I guess I'm just floored at all the castles and natural structures that trump the US.

Carry

Dragons Revenge wrote: »

Hahaha, well I guess it's easy to praise it if I dont live here. It would be the same thing if one of you came to the US and starting singing its praises. I'm just going off off the scenery and the simple fact that....I'm here. I guess I have the advantage of not actually living here so I don't have to deal with the politcs. But no matter what, it's pretty to look at.

And yeah the US isn't without its natural beauty; I guess I'm just floored at all the castles and natural structures that trump the US.

America (north, south and in between) is full of natural structures, natural beauty and history - if you look beyond the highways and shopping malls and deeper into the history of this continent.

You can't have castles like in Europe, because there was no european culture over there when castles were all the rage over here. But there was a different culture with different structures. Remember?

It's not a competition. The world is full of different cultures and sceneries. And the grass is always greener... blah....

But good on you that you like Ireland. Hope you spent a lot of money here. We need it desperately. That's why we keep all the structures and lead you to all the stunning cliffs and ruins plus visitor centres and charge you a fortune to see them...

Guys, we should cherish this tourist. Might be the last one who thinks Ireland is great.

fontanalis

Dragons Revenge wrote: »

Hahaha, well I guess it's easy to praise it if I dont live here. It would be the same thing if one of you came to the US and starting singing its praises. I'm just going off off the scenery and the simple fact that....I'm here. I guess I have the advantage of not actually living here so I don't have to deal with the politcs. But no matter what, it's pretty to look at.

And yeah the US isn't without its natural beauty; I guess I'm just floored at all the castles and natural structures that trump the US.

You Americans and your castles
What do you think of the price of things?

akkadian

Dragons Revenge wrote: »

/tourist

No really. It's a goddamn shame we don't have have the scenery that's in Ireland or any other place in Europe. Ireland memorializes its structures more than in the states. For instance, in a small city close to where I grew up they're looking to tear down one of the oldest buildings in the state. By comparison, I see Ireland either preserving it or simply keeping the outer structure and using it for some other business. Where here it would simply demolished entirely. There's no regard for history here.
That's just an example. I just want to say, I love eireann.

And we love u too Mr. Wisonsin. Come to Ireland any time. Hope things are good. I really want to go to the Mojave desert some time.

Pherekydes

Dragons Revenge wrote: »

No really. It's a goddamn shame we don't have have the scenery that's in Ireland or any other place in Europe.

Quit whining. You have the Packers.

/end thread.

Dragons Revenge

Pherekydes wrote: »

Quit whining. You have the Packers.

/end thread.

Yeah... that doesn't help.

Actually the first two people I told I was from Wisconsin thought of That 70's Show.

D-Generate

Jebus, glad to see people are willing to begrudge everything that is in Ireland! Sure our economy sucks at the moment and we have a bunch of arseholes throughout the country but one thing we were blessed with is spectacular scenery.

Now I know you folks in the Pale can only see the far distant beauty of the Wicklow mountains on a clear day, but down South and around the Western Coast are sights in our backgarden that are tough to beat anywhere in the world.

I have been all around America and don't doubt for a second that when it comes to shear amazement at the massive size of something then Grand Canyon or Glacier Point in Yosemite come close to first place (second place is the size of my lad). However if you talk to many Californians for instance, they will say that the drive along Big Sur offers some of Americas best views. To that I feel sorry for them because the Ring of Beara in West Cork beats seven shades of ****e out of the Big Sur drive for awesomeness! Oh and if you want size, then go up to Cliffs of Moher. Nothing on either coast in the US can compare.
Finally, head up to Giants Causeway, built by actual giants!

Dragons Revenge

fontanalis wrote: »

You Americans and your castles
What do you think of the price of things?

It's for the most part on par with prices back home if I don't consider the exchange rate. There are somethings that are costly no matter what, but for the most part, there hasn't been any real reason to complain.

Dragons Revenge

Carry wrote: »

America (north, south and in between) is full of natural structures, natural beauty and history - if you look beyond the highways and shopping malls and deeper into the history of this continent.

You can't have castles like in Europe, because there was no european culture over there when castles were all the rage over here. But there was a different culture with different structures. Remember?

It's not a competition. The world is full of different cultures and sceneries. And the grass is always greener... blah....

But good on you that you like Ireland. Hope you spent a lot of money here. We need it desperately. That's why we keep all the structures and lead you to all the stunning cliffs and ruins plus visitor centres and charge you a fortune to see them...

Guys, we should cherish this tourist. Might be the last one who thinks Ireland is great.

LOL. You're welcome My contributions to the Spar will keep you going for the next decade. I know what I'm saying is pretty narrow minded, and I know and acknoweldge full well that the US isn't without its beauty, but there's still something captivating about Europe that interests me that the US doesn't have. It's just something that's special to me. (considering I'm a fantasy nerd too...)

Panda

Dragons Revenge wrote: »

they're looking to tear down one of the oldest buildings in the state.

whats the building.

Dragons Revenge

Panda wrote: »

whats the building.

Israel Stowell Temperance house in Delavan, WI. It's literally as old as the State itself. I'm not even sure what its used for. As the name implies though it was probably used to privately brew alcohol during the 20s (though the building itself is older).

The new mayor-elect wants to have it registered with the county historical society and have it touched up, so at least he sees value in it. They were really close to tearing it down.

sron

Don't forget our world famous Viking settlement and museum on Wood Quay, the pride of our government and people.

Dragons Revenge

D-Generate wrote: »

Jebus, glad to see people are willing to begrudge everything that is in Ireland

It's understandable. If you live here, it's easy to take it for granted. It's just part of your every day life. You're not in the position foreigners are to come and view things they've never seen before. I'm glad some of the natives can appreciate it.

Sofaspud

Dragons Revenge wrote: »

You spell "memorialize" correctly for one thing....

Yeah, "memorialise"

Carry

Dragons Revenge wrote: »

LOL. You're welcome My contributions to the Spar will keep you going for the next decade. I know what I'm saying is pretty narrow minded, and I know and acknoweldge full well that the US isn't without its beauty, but there's still something captivating about Europe that interests me that the US doesn't have. It's just something that's special to me. (considering I'm a fantasy nerd too...)

Nah, it's not narrowminded, just the enthusiasm of a tourist:D
You're welcome to it. Every little helps...

Spar isn't Irish, it's a chain originally from the Netherlands, but that's Europe for you. Being a pedant sort of...

So you are a shoestring-tourist? You are the one to accommodate really. Irish tourism had it's eyes always on the rich guys - milking them no end, "value for money" was a term just for brown envelopes.

But it's always the shoestring-guys who pave the way for the masses who bring the money.
Not that the Irish tourist board would notice...

So Mr/Ms Wisconsin, I'm glad you enjoy Ireland. It's a great country - or so...

And do come back when you are filthy rich, please?

Panda

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2725/4477251079_b608a5a4cf.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/4477256893_09e80e20dc.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2693/4477253771_274517f835.jpg

It looks decidedly unimpressive.
But hey, history is history.

The problem with ireland is that theres too many buildings and landmarks to preserve so literally thousands of them are crumbling.
tyrone house
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/24451795

Heres one near my home and one i saw over the weekend.
ardfry castle
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3542/3422841822_29aa9cac73.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3388/3422842360_576b55f0b4.jpg

Dragons Revenge

Carry wrote: »

Nah, it's not narrowminded, just the enthusiasm of a tourist:D
You're welcome to it. Every little helps...

Spar isn't Irish, it's a chain originally from the Netherlands, but that's Europe for you. Being a pedant sort of...

So you are a shoestring-tourist? You are the one to accommodate really. Irish tourism had it's eyes always on the rich guys - milking them no end, "value for money" was a term just for brown envelopes.

But it's always the shoestring-guys who pave the way for the masses who bring the money.
Not that the Irish tourist board would notice...

So Mr/Ms Wisconsin, I'm glad you enjoy Ireland. It's a great country - or so...

And do come back when you are filthy rich, please?

Hahaha, I know it's not Irish-based. I'm a shoestring tourist in the "college student" sense, so I've found ways to stretch my euros.

Hopefully I will be able to come back.

ejmaztec

And then of course there's the pièce de résistance, the Holy Stone of Clonrickert - not to be missed. It even puts the Great Wall of China in the shade.

Dragons Revenge

Panda wrote: »

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2725/4477251079_b608a5a4cf.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/4477256893_09e80e20dc.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2693/4477253771_274517f835.jpg

It looks decidedly unimpressive.
But hey, history is history.

The problem with ireland is that theres too many buildings and landmarks to preserve so literally thousands of them are crumbling.
tyrone house
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/24451795

Heres one near my home and one i saw over the weekend.
ardfry castle
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3542/3422841822_29aa9cac73.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3388/3422842360_576b55f0b4.jpg

(The internet connection is one of my few complaints about being out here...)

I never said it was a thing of beauty. Of coruse it's gonna look dilapidated if they let it go to pot.

As for the other pictures, the funny thing is, foreigners would consider them to be "historic ruins," but I get your point.

Little Acorn

It's so nice to hear somebody saying something positive about the country for a change,it's a real breath of fresh air. Sure we have our share of problems, but what country doesn't? Wish people didn't just constantly focus on the negatives, and even just once in a while remembered at least some positives.
Glad you are enjoying your holidays here, and come back again sometime.:)

tallaghtoutlaws

Dragons Revenge I think you are underestimating your own state to be honest. I spend a lot of time in WI and yes its no Ireland for its vast history but its a great state none the less. Reading this thread for me it seems you love Ireland because of your interest in Castles and old structures. But America being so young doesn't help those with a taste for things that are old especially if they have travelled to Europe. You go back to the US trying to compare history and sadly it doesn't work. If its any consolation I ate in a 100 year old building in WI. Was a Restaurant the day it opened and still is today.

For me WI is a great state, Friendly folk everywhere, 2 great cities in Madison and Milwaukee which are both fun cities to party in. Brewers, Packers, Badgers, Bucks and the many high school and colleges if you are a sports fan. Hunting season...... I could go on. I think what it boils down to each to their own. I love Ireland also except for the fact the government is all over the shop and economy is gone to sh1t.

FunnyStuff

Pherekydes wrote: »

You have the Packers.

And the Boston Bruins....... damn i miss America

mikom

Detukerjabs! wrote: »

DEY TUK ER JABS!
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::p:pac:

The answer to RTE's comedy drought right here.

Overheal

Well its true, The US (especially outside of New England) is a very young country and relies on scenic beauty. Ireland has both. Dont get me wrong I both love and hate the roads. And driving down to Kerry was a complete blast, and I must go back and do it again someday. Not before I do some sightseeing around my own place first. Need to see Yellowstone; DC; hit up Boston; etc etc.

generalmiaow

Thanks Dragons Revenge for posting something so nice, it's really thoughtful given all the negativity and bad news. And I agree as well for the most part with what you said in the first post.