Asking a girl back..

LegacyUser

I dunno what really my question is here but I was out last night and ended up in a club. I got dancing with a really nice girl and we ended up scoring. We ended up together kissing for ages and then as the end of the night was approaching, while still kissing, I asked in her ear if she wanted to come back to my place. This kind of brought things to an abrupt end. She said she had to go find her friends and went off. I wasn't after a 1 night stand, well I know thats how it must have appeared to her. I actually really liked this girl and was just looking to spend some more time with her but as soon as I asked if she wanted to come back to mine things fell apart and I didnt even have time to ask for her number. Prob have no shot with this girl now if I ever meet her again?

tenchi-fan

subtlety is not your strong point

If you meet her again just pretend like you never made the suggestion.

You should use a pretext next time, like "aw i was really enjoying the craic, I wonder are there any late bars.. hmm, i have some bulmers at home"

Or simply suggest getting a taxi together and let her make the decision whether she wants to go home or get off at your place.

wylo

you could have invited her friends back too for a few drinks, it would make her feel more comfortable (not very helpful if youve no drink back at yours)

seenitall

Next time you really like a girl and want things to develop to amount to more than a one night stand, don't do what you did.

It is a bad idea to ask people who you just met and like the look of to your place right away. I know what I would be thinking as a woman, and I would be turned off immediately, as one night stands/immediate gratification and guys who are into that are not my cup of tea (and it seems that your one shares my reservations...) .

Ask for her phone number instead. No risk of misunderstandings that way.

If you meet her again, act natural and if you perceive she still has some remnant of an interest in you, ask for her number.

LegacyUser

seenitall wrote: »

Next time you really like a girl and want things to develop to amount to more than a one night stand, don't do what you did.

It is a bad idea to ask people who you just met and like the look of to your place right away. I know what I would be thinking as a woman, and I would be turned off immediately, as one night stands/immediate gratification and guys who are into that are not my cup of tea (and it seems that your one shares my reservations...) .

Ask for her phone number instead. No risk of misunderstandings that way.

If you meet her again, act natural and if you perceive she still has some remnant of an interest in you, ask for her number.

Thanks everyone for the advice. I can see how what I did was a big turn off. I guess Id had a few drinks and the brain wasn't fully turned on. My reasoning for asking her back to mine was so that I could actually talk and get to know her a bit more (impossible in a packed loud club) and of course continue on kissing But when I said what I did things kinda went south fast. Ah well a lesson learned, next time I will ask a girl for a number first!!

Emme

Blue Shooz wrote: »

Thanks everyone for the advice. I can see how what I did was a big turn off. I guess Id had a few drinks and the brain wasn't fully turned on. My reasoning for asking her back to mine was so that I could actually talk and get to know her a bit more (impossible in a packed loud club) and of course continue on kissing But when I said what I did things kinda went south fast. Ah well a lesson learned, next time I will ask a girl for a number first!!

I feel for you Blue Shooz but from a woman's point of view I can understand why the girl left. I was in a similar situation myself a few weeks ago, lovely guy, got on well and then he asked me back to his place for coffee. I panicked and said "I didn't think you were like that, why are you men all the same!" and he got upset and walked off.

LegacyUser

Emme wrote: »

I feel for you Blue Shooz but from a woman's point of view I can understand why the girl left. I was in a similar situation myself a few weeks ago, lovely guy, got on well and then he asked me back to his place for coffee. I panicked and said "I didn't think you were like that, why are you men all the same!" and he got upset and walked off.

Thanks Emme. Was in that same situation as u just said above. Lovely girl, actually thought she was really sweet and had no thoughts of 1 night stand in my head. I actually wish she had replied like you did i.e. panicked and said "I didn't think you were like that, why are you men all the same!" At least it would have given me a chance to explain myself

Zombrex

Blue Shooz wrote: »

I dunno what really my question is here but I was out last night and ended up in a club. I got dancing with a really nice girl and we ended up scoring. We ended up together kissing for ages and then as the end of the night was approaching, while still kissing, I asked in her ear if she wanted to come back to my place. This kind of brought things to an abrupt end. She said she had to go find her friends and went off. I wasn't after a 1 night stand, well I know thats how it must have appeared to her. I actually really liked this girl and was just looking to spend some more time with her but as soon as I asked if she wanted to come back to mine things fell apart and I didnt even have time to ask for her number. Prob have no shot with this girl now if I ever meet her again?

in 99% of cases would you like to come back to my place means would you like to have sex with me tonight.

You can't blame her for thinking that instead of would you like to come back to my place and play scrabble for a bit.

If you were interested in dating her you should have said something like I have to go now but can I get your number and give you a call some time. Get her number and leave.

By you initiating the leaving rather than her you take the pressure of a "happy ending" to the night off her and it lets her know that isn't what you are thinking about from the start. She is left thinking he wasn't just looking for a shag tonight, he actually liked me.

Live and learn I guess

MicraBoy

Blue Shooz wrote: »

Thanks Emme. Was in that same situation as u just said above. Lovely girl, actually thought she was really sweet and had no thoughts of 1 night stand in my head. I actually wish she had replied like you did i.e. panicked and said "I didn't think you were like that, why are you men all the same!" At least it would have given me a chance to explain myself

Or she could have been a grown up about it and said no thanks, but here's my number, or i've had a nice time but no thanks. In fact any number of responses would have been more mature than just disappearing into the night.

tenchi-fan

MicraBoy wrote: »

Or she could have been a grown up about it and said no thanks, but here's my number, or i've had a nice time but no thanks. In fact any number of responses would have been more mature than just disappearing into the night.

Brilliant point actually.

MicraBoy

MicraBoy wrote: »

Or she could have been a grown up about it and said no thanks, but here's my number, or i've had a nice time but no thanks. In fact any number of responses would have been more mature than just disappearing into the night.

What's not mature? She said she had to find her friends and she left. It's not like she climbed out of the toilet window.

Queencake

MicraBoy wrote: »

Or she could have been a grown up about it and said no thanks, but here's my number, or i've had a nice time but no thanks. In fact any number of responses would have been more mature than just disappearing into the night.

She clearly thought he was after sex. She didn't want to give him her number. She didn't need to be polite to him if she felt insulted or offended by his suggestion - which she may well have. I've gotten the same line from guys. 9 times out of 10 when I give a polite no, they push it or act like I'm a bitch. You can't really win in those situations if you're the one saying "No".

I know one girl who when she refused the guy started spitting insults at her, calling her a prick tease etc. Tbh, sometimes it's safer to make a quick exit after saying "No" than linger for politeness sake.

Queencake

Blue Shooz wrote: »

Thanks Emme. Was in that same situation as u just said above. Lovely girl, actually thought she was really sweet and had no thoughts of 1 night stand in my head. I actually wish she had replied like you did i.e. panicked and said "I didn't think you were like that, why are you men all the same!" At least it would have given me a chance to explain myself

Ah, it was a easy miscommunication to make (the drink didn't help).

But trust me, in future don't go down the route of making the night last longer than the club/late bar closing if you're interested in more than a one nighter. Ask for the number and maybe ask if she'd fancy some chips before heading home. It's just a safer bet - no risk of offending anyone!

up for anything

Just my two cents worth from the woman's point of view.

If you are getting on well with a girl don't just ask for her number. Make a firm date with her. Get her number. Ring, not text, her the next day to confirm the date. Turn up.

I get sad reading posts from girls who have given their phone number to someone with whom they were getting on well and then spend the next two weeks wondering when and then why they weren't contacted. This form of rejection time after time has a really bad effect on a girl's psyche and will affect the way she relates to boys in the future.*

A girl I know met a boy one night, he asked for her number, spent the next three weeks texting back and forth regularly, he made a date with her for after soccer practice one night, texted her that he'd text her when he'd finished to confirm where they were to meet up. She never heard from him again. She did text him later that night - a thought out jokey text which he never replied to. How sad is that!


*they are usually the ones that boys give out about saying they have bad attitudes. No wonder.

MicraBoy

[quote=[Deleted User];65374758]What's not mature? She said she had to find her friends and she left. It's not like she climbed out of the toilet window.[/QUOTE]

It's not mature to walk away from some one you have been wearing the face off, who has asked a direct question of you, without answering it. Clearly all this girl has done is confuse the OP. Is that fair on him?

She clearly thought he was after sex. She didn't want to give him her number. She didn't need to be polite to him if she felt insulted or offended by his suggestion - which she may well have. I've gotten the same line from guys. 9 times out of 10 when I give a polite no, they push it or act like I'm a bitch. You can't really win in those situations if you're the one saying "No".

I know one girl who when she refused the guy started spitting insults at her, calling her a prick tease etc. Tbh, sometimes it's safer to make a quick exit after saying "No" than linger for politeness sake.

If she is that precious she shouldn't be kissing random guys in nightclubs. And that is a complete contradiction. The guy is good enough to snog (i.e. get what she wants out of it), but how dare he suggest doing anything beyond what she wants, what he pr1ck he must be! I don't condone anyone being a b1tch or pushy, NO MEANS NO. But judging someone for asking a logical question is double standards to say the least.

All I'm saying is he deserved to walk away with a clear idea of what was going on.

Emme

MicraBoy wrote: »

If she is that precious she shouldn't be kissing random guys in nightclubs. And that is a complete contradiction. The guy is good enough to snog (i.e. get what she wants out of it), but how dare he suggest doing anything beyond what she wants, what he pr1ck he must be! I don't condone anyone being a b1tch or pushy, NO MEANS NO. But judging someone for asking a logical question is double standards to say the least.

I don't like the tone of this post. It implicitly suggests that if a girl kisses a guy in a club then she should be up for having sex with him. Is this really how things are now? If a girl kisses a guy in a club he assumes she's up for sex? When I was in my early 20s you could meet a guy at a club (rugby club disco in those days) kiss him and he wouldn't expect anything at the end of the night.

This kissing-in-a-club-invariably-leads-to-sex attitude is exactly what has ruined things for the OP because he didn't want a ONS, he liked the girl and wanted to get to know her better. He sounds like a rare gem to me when so many guys are after one night stands. Some guys literally take the girl home, shag her and as soon as they have the used condom off they ask her to leave!

I hope that the OP meets this girl again in more favourable circumstances.

Queencake

MicraBoy wrote: »

All I'm saying is he deserved to walk away with a clear idea of what was going on.

I think he got a pretty clear idea of her answer in fairness. :rolleyes:

MicraBoy

Emme wrote: »

I don't like the tone of this post. It implicitly suggests that if a girl kisses a guy in a club then she should be up for having sex with him. Is this really how things are now? If a girl kisses a guy in a club he assumes she's up for sex? When I was in my early 20s you could meet a guy at a club (rugby club disco in those days) kiss him and he wouldn't expect anything at the end of the night.

It doesn't imply anything of the sort. The point is the question is not inappropriate under the circumstances.

I think he got a pretty clear idea of her answer in fairness.

Actually I agree, but he doesn't see it like that, hence the posting in PI.

ash23

OP, you put your foot in it.

But when she said she had to go, why didn't you ask for her number then? Or ask her out?

I would assume if a guy asked me back to his that he expected sex.

If you'd offered to walk her to a taxi/walk her home, offered to buy her a bag of chips etc. Jeepers, ANYTHING but "d'ya wanna come back to my place?".

Also, (and this is stupid but hey!) as a woman, I wouldn't mind asking a guy back to my place. I feel in control then. But I have never gone to a guys place just after meeting them.
It's a safety thing for me. In my house I know the exits, where I keep the knives, how loud I have to scream to get the neighbours attention......in a guys place I'm at a disadvantage if I become uncomfortable or change my mind about him.

Emme

ash23 wrote: »

OP, you put your foot in it.

But when she said she had to go, why didn't you ask for her number then? Or ask her out?

I would assume if a guy asked me back to his that he expected sex.

If you'd offered to walk her to a taxi/walk her home, offered to buy her a bag of chips etc. Jeepers, ANYTHING but "d'ya wanna come back to my place?".

Also, (and this is stupid but hey!) as a woman, I wouldn't mind asking a guy back to my place. I feel in control then. But I have never gone to a guys place just after meeting them.
It's a safety thing for me. In my house I know the exits, where I keep the knives, how loud I have to scream to get the neighbours attention......in a guys place I'm at a disadvantage if I become uncomfortable or change my mind about him.

When I was younger I'd go back to a guys place or he'd come to mine for a coffee and a snog and apart from a few uninvited fumbles everything was ok. I think it's a different kettle of fish nowadays. For most guys, inviting a girl back or being invited back by a girl means sex is on the menu. I learnt that to my peril when a guy in his 40s invited me in for coffee, I took him at his word and he made it very clear what he really wanted. So be careful, it isn't easy to get away when you have a 16 stone guy on top of you hell bent on getting his own way.

ash23

Emme wrote: »

When I was younger I'd go back to a guys place or he'd come to mine for a coffee and a snog and apart from a few uninvited fumbles everything was ok. I think it's a different kettle of fish nowadays. For most guys, inviting a girl back or being invited back by a girl means sex is on the menu. I learnt that to my peril when a guy in his 40s invited me in for coffee, I took him at his word and he made it very clear what he really wanted. So be careful, it isn't easy to get away when you have a 16 stone guy on top of you hell bent on getting his own way.

Same as that. When I was in college it was the same. Inviting people back meant a snog. Now it does mean sex. I wouldn't invite someone back if it weren't with the intention of sleeping with them.

It's either someone I know or if it's not, it's only when I have other friends etc staying over too.

dublingal80

i hope you have learned a small lesson here. Us girls want to be treated with respect. All we want, when we meet a nice boy is to exchange numbers, you then text the next day to make sure the girl got home ok, and take it from there, but dont depend on texting all the time, pick up the phone for an actual conversation too. Ask her out on a date then. Pick somewhere nice for dinner and a bar afterwards and enjoy your time with her. Then go your seperate ways and before you go to bed, make sure she got home ok again.

When I was single, any time someone asked me to go back to theirs i just assumed it was for one thing and i ran the other way!

mood

dublingal80 wrote: »

i hope you have learned a small lesson here. Us girls want to be treated with respect. All we want, when we meet a nice boy is to exchange numbers, you then text the next day to make sure the girl got home ok, and take it from there, but dont depend on texting all the time, pick up the phone for an actual conversation too. Ask her out on a date then. Pick somewhere nice for dinner and a bar afterwards and enjoy your time with her. Then go your seperate ways and before you go to bed, make sure she got home ok again.

When I was single, any time someone asked me to go back to theirs i just assumed it was for one thing and i ran the other way!

I don't agree that a first date should be a dinner date. But if you genuinely like a girl and want to see her again don't ask her back to yours asap. It really does look like it's just for sex. Any girl I know who gave a guy the benefit of the doubt was proven wrong!

MicraBoy

Thanks for comfirming my suspicion that there is a double standard at play here.

It's ok for a girl to assume a guy is only after sex if he asks her back to his place after he has spent a evening dancing and kissing her.

However it is not ok for a guy to assume a girl might want to have sex after he has spent a evening dancing and kissing her.

MicraBoy

MicraBoy wrote: »

It's not mature to walk away from some one you have been wearing the face off, who has asked a direct question of you, without answering it. Clearly all this girl has done is confuse the OP. Is that fair on him?

Well, saying she had to find her friends made it pretty damn obvious. I don't like your attitude that she somehow 'owed' him something because she'd kissed him.

Being a woman, I've had a few situations where I turned down an offer to go home with someone, and had the man keep insisting and even get intimidating. I would not blame anyone for just wanting to get away ASAP from someone who'd asked them to go home when they weren't interested. A woman's personal safety is a hell of a lot more important than some poor bloke getting 'confused'. And I fail to see what's confusing here. He said the wrong thing, it put her off. Hardly rocket science.

If she is that precious she shouldn't be kissing random guys in nightclubs. And that is a complete contradiction. The guy is good enough to snog (i.e. get what she wants out of it), but how dare he suggest doing anything beyond what she wants, what he pr1ck he must be! I don't condone anyone being a b1tch or pushy, NO MEANS NO. But judging someone for asking a logical question is double standards to say the least.

She's precious because she wasn't up for a one night stand, and probably was disappointed at a guy who seemed nice acting like that's all he was after? Just...wow. There is a hell of a jump between kissing a guy and sleeping with him. Kissing in a nightclub is a bit of fun, I wouldn't have an objection to that if single, but I'd have no interest in sleeping with someone I'd just met. Where on earth is the contradiction? Sex brings all kinds of risks (pregnancy, STI's, the person could be a nutter) and lots of people don't take it lightly. And it wouldn't be a logical question to everyone - plenty of people would have expected him to ask for a number or say he'd like to see her again. I've been asked for a number many more times than I've been asked to go back 'for a coffee'.

All I'm saying is he deserved to walk away with a clear idea of what was going on.

He did. She was offended or put off by his question. She was no longer interested. He should probably be more subtle in future. A blind man could see this.

Katgurl

perhaps she panicked & walked off & is now kicking herself???

OP, i agree with previous poster who said she could have declined your offer & given her phone number. I don't see what was so offensive TBH, it wasn't like you tried to drag her against her will. Is there anyway you could get in otuch with her now?

MicraBoy

[quote=[Deleted User];65387588]Well, saying she had to find her friends made it pretty damn obvious. I don't like your attitude that she somehow 'owed' him something because she'd kissed him.

Being a woman, I've had a few situations where I turned down an offer to go home with someone, and had the man keep insisting and even get intimidating. I would not blame anyone for just wanting to get away ASAP from someone who'd asked them to go home when they weren't interested. A woman's personal safety is a hell of a lot more important than some poor bloke getting 'confused'. And I fail to see what's confusing here. He said the wrong thing, it put her off. Hardly rocket science.
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Of course she owed him something. She owed him the courtesy of a straight answer. That's just good manners/ I'd have no respect for someone who ran away like that. Makes her look like a total slapper to be honest (a slapper on her own terms that is). She got what she wanted and legged it.

Not only did she misinterpret the OPs intentions, she is guilty of making a heinous judgement on him (basically you are saying it is ok to judge all men to be potential rapists). Its not like they were down a dark alley together, they were in a club so her safety wasn't in question.

She's precious because she wasn't up for a one night stand, and probably was disappointed at a guy who seemed nice acting like that's all he was after? Just...wow. There is a hell of a jump between kissing a guy and sleeping with him. Kissing in a nightclub is a bit of fun, I wouldn't have an objection to that if single, but I'd have no interest in sleeping with someone I'd just met. Where on earth is the contradiction? Sex brings all kinds of risks (pregnancy, STI's, the person could be a nutter) and lots of people don't take it lightly. And it wouldn't be a logical question to everyone - plenty of people would have expected him to ask for a number or say he'd like to see her again. I've been asked for a number many more times than I've been asked to go back 'for a coffee'.

He did. She was offended or put off by his question. She was no longer interested. He should probably be more subtle in future. A blind man could see this.

For a start they were never gonna have sex, that wasn't in question. So all that stuff about STIs is irrelevant.

She's precious because she can't handle an adult question in an adult manner. All she had to say was "No thanks, I'm not that kind of girl, and I don't appreicate the question". How difficult is that? Not rocket science either.

MicraBoy

MicraBoy wrote: »

Of course she owed him something. She owed him the courtesy of a straight answer. That's just good manners/ I'd have no respect for someone who ran away like that. Makes her look like a total slapper to be honest (a slapper on her own terms that is). She got what she wanted and legged it.

She didn't run away! We don't know what her exact words were, but she didn't just leg it. She made a flimsy excuse to leave. And I find it disturbing that you consider a woman a slapper for kissing a guy and then going off home. She didn't owe him ANYTHING. Maybe she panicked when he said that, maybe she realised she'd abandoned her mates or made a mistake, what does it matter?

Not only did she misinterpret the OPs intentions, she is guilty of making a heinous judgement on him (basically you are saying it is ok to judge all men to be potential rapists). Its not like they were down a dark alley together, they were in a club so her safety wasn't in question.

Who knows what she thought? Who knows how OP's question came across? Who knows what life experiences might have influenced her actions? If she had had experience of men becoming pestering and abusive after saying no, I find her actions totally normal. If she had hung around chatting and he HAD wanted sex, OP would have come here calling her a pr*cktease. Can you really not see that? She probably thought he was after one thing and a quick exit was the best decision. As for 'she was safe, they were in a club', that's naive. At the end of the day, he was a total stranger, she thought he expected sex, she didn't want it, who's going to hang around after that?

She's precious because she can't handle an adult question in an adult manner. All she had to say was "No thanks, I'm not that kind of girl, and I don't appreicate the question". How difficult is that? Not rocket science either.

A lot of people would consider it a rude or immature question. How do you answer it? You say she came across as precious. Don't you think 'I'm not that kind of girl' would have come across as precious? Or snobby? As if she thought she was too good for him? As if she was uptight? As if she was questioning his morals or the morals of people who DO have one night stands? I don't think you get it that women really can't win in this situation. Whatever you say, other than 'yes, I want to go home with you', the guy isn't going to be too pleased.

I wish you could just experience telling a drunk, horny man that sex isn't happening, and then stick around while he tried to convince you. Sure, OP was well intentioned and he wouldn't have done that, but how was the girl to know that? It was hardly the question of a man who wanted to go home and play Scrabble or take her number to meet up next week. People judge others by their actions and how they come across, and OP messed up here. I don't see how the girl did anything wrong. I think OP should read the posts from the girls on this thread and next time, not say 'do you want to come back to mine?' to a girl he really likes.

LegacyUser

Katgurl wrote: »

perhaps she panicked & walked off & is now kicking herself???

OP, i agree with previous poster who said she could have declined your offer & given her phone number. I don't see what was so offensive TBH, it wasn't like you tried to drag her against her will. Is there anyway you could get in otuch with her now?

I hope so Nope, I can only hope that I might run into her again sometime, until then it's me who is kicking himself!!

[quote=[Deleted User];65397594] I wish you could just experience telling a drunk, horny man that sex isn't happening, and then stick around while he tried to convince you. Sure, OP was well intentioned and he wouldn't have done that, but how was the girl to know that? It was hardly the question of a man who wanted to go home and play Scrabble or take her number to meet up next week. People judge others by their actions and how they come across, and OP messed up here. I don't see how the girl did anything wrong. I think OP should read the posts from the girls on this thread and next time, not say 'do you want to come back to mine?' to a girl he really likes.[/QUOTE]

The many views and answers in this post are greatly appreciated. I can honestly say that I will never make the same mistake again. I had a major idiot moment and ended up ruining my chance with a really lovely girl. I was also really naive, how else could I really have expected "do you wnat to come back to mine" to be taken

I also just want to stand up a little for us men. I completely agree with what many of the girls have said. There are lots of sleazy guys out there who only want a quick "shag" and thats it. However, there still are a few good guys left out there. We occassionally mess up and get lumped in as "typical men" because of the actions of those "after only one thing" but I'd like to think that most men would treat girls with the respect and kindness they deserve

opinion guy

Wow there are some borderline scary few from some guys in this thread. anyhow moving on.......

Blue Shooz wrote: »

I asked in her ear if she wanted to come back to my place.

Word of advice: never ask a new girl this. Ever. Leave it to her. In my experience if a girl wants to come back to your house (for whatever reason) they will let you know. As Izzy-wizzy pointed out - that represents a whole set of risks to a girl (even if they don't want to have sex...they might just want to know you better before going back to your house....for all they know you could be a total mentaller). Quite apart from that. Its unsubtle and even if you mean it inoocently is WAYYYYYY to open for misinterpretation.

Now what you might do is tease her a little bit. Have a bit of fun with the situation. maybe comment on how you've had a great night but you'll unfortunately have to say good night because you don't put out on the first date or something. Anyhow I'm not explaining it very well but just have a bit of humour about things. If she likes you she'll let you know. If she wants to meet you again she'll let you know (don't forget to sawp numbers!). If she wants to have coffee in your place before going home she'll let you know. If she wants to roide you mindless she'll let you know.


Anyhow thats just what I think

MicraBoy

opinion guy wrote: »

Wow there are some borderline scary few from some guys in this thread. anyhow moving on.......



Word of advice: never ask a new girl this. Ever. Leave it to her. In my experience if a girl wants to come back to your house (for whatever reason) they will let you know. As Izzy-wizzy pointed out - that represents a whole set of risks to a girl (even if they don't want to have sex...they might just want to know you better before going back to your house....for all they know you could be a total mentaller). Quite apart from that. Its unsubtle and even if you mean it inoocently is WAYYYYYY to open for misinterpretation.

Now what you might do is tease her a little bit. Have a bit of fun with the situation. maybe comment on how you've had a great night but you'll unfortunately have to say good night because you don't put out on the first date or something. Anyhow I'm not explaining it very well but just have a bit of humour about things. If she likes you she'll let you know. If she wants to meet you again she'll let you know (don't forget to sawp numbers!). If she wants to have coffee in your place before going home she'll let you know. If she wants to roide you mindless she'll let you know.


Anyhow thats just what I think

So basically instead of being up front about what you want you play some game in the hope that you'll trick her into getting what you want. AWESOME!

opinion guy

MicraBoy wrote: »

So basically instead of being up front about what you want you play some game in the hope that you'll trick her into getting what you want. AWESOME!

Err no. You completely misunderstood what I said. I said have a bit of fun and tease - its not about "getting what you want". Its enjoying the someones company. if you chose to intetpret all this dating sutff as a game, don't project that on to me