best facial suncream

saraasull

hey girls i want to avoid aging so ive decided to buy a suncream for my face to wear every day underneath my makeup but over my moisturiser. i just have a few questions first.
firstly, would it be better to buy a moisturiser with spf included or just go for a suncream like i plan and put my moisturiser over it? alot of the spfs only contain protection from uvb rays and not the aging rays.
secondly, i want you to help me pick a suncream which does not contain chemicals? do you know of any? apparently alot of ageing is caused by the sun- would it be a good idea to wear suncream every day or a bad one?
would it do me any harm to wear suncream and moisturiser and makeup every day?- i.e. chemicals.
anyway fill out my poll for which suncream in boots i should go for girls if you know about any of them. thanks

Glowing

I think it's better to go with proper sunscreen, i.e. SPF 30+ than just the usual 15 they put in moisturisers.

I have always used Neutrogena Sheer Touch facial sunscreen (you can only get it in the states but I order online)

http://www.neutrogena.com/econsumer/ntg/productdetail.browse?segment=women&catId=3&subCatId=9&productId=164&target=/products/sun/ultra-sheer-dry-touch-sunblock-spf-30-&-45.jsp

It doesn't block your pores, and is non-greasy - I wear it every day and haven't had any issues!

P.S it's definately a good idea to wear sunscreen every day, even winter! Have you ever been to Australia and seen the damage the sun has done, even to ladies in their late 20's/early 30s?

saraasull

ok girls i decided to set up a thread on what you use as sunscreen?
do you just use your moisturiser with an spf in it or do you go for the actual suncream for your face? what factor?

what ones were good/ones were bad?

Darlughda

I have chronically dry skin on my face which usually improves in Summer, but last year I was taking no chances and splashed out on HYDRA FEEL by Yves Saint Laurent, SPF 15. Found it great.

But this year, I have developed Rosacea.:(

So, I am afraid the sun will just turn me into a red faced tomato with scaly patches unless I can find a good sunscreen/ moisturiser for dry/red rosacea prone skin!

mrsberries

Im fair skinned so use a moisturiser with spf15 during the winter months but come summer I use a separate product. Ive been using Clinque City Block factor 30 normally but this year ive splashed out on a Chanel one - spf 50.

If you have sensitive skin you have to be careful I think as there are two types of sun blocks - chemical and physical. The clinique and chanel ones are physical and dont cause any reaction. One summer I used Simple spf (yes - simple :eek:) and my skin came out in bumps!! So physical barriers are the way to go...believe Dermalogica does a good one too!

saraasull

thanks for your replies, but how can you tell which sunsreens are physical and which are chemical? are there ingredients to look out for?

saraasull

thanks for your replies, but mrsberries how can you tell which sunsreens are physical and which are chemical? are there ingredients to look out for?

mrsberries

Hey...yep its to do with the ingredients...its bascially minerals in the cream that creates a physical barrier from the sun as opposed to chemicals doing the work - like mineral make up is a physical sun barrier. Sorry was never good at science so heres some links

http://skinacea.com/sunscreen/physchem.htm

http://beaut.ie/blog/?p=5030


I think you need to look for the oxides in the ingredients for it to be phyiscal..

!

Twee.

Threads merged.

lubie76

I use the ROC tinted moisturiser SPF 50 and find it great. They also do a non tinted one but it is kinda visibly white when you put it on. Have also used Mac Prep and Prime SPF 50 which is good too but quite expensive considering its only a small tube. A dermatologist in my local hospital recommended the ROC one so I reckon it has to be good. I have fair skin so always wear SPf of at least 30, even in Winter. I'm 34 and have no lines or signs of aging yet. Fingers crossed!

Lorrrrraine

I haven't got it (yet) but I can't wait to try the Elizabeth Arden 8 Hour Cream with SPF 50. Its just out recently and is pricey, but looks amazing.
Anybody try it?

How Strange

I've got sensitive skin so can't use a lot of suncreams. For my skin I use this one:

http://www.kudosbeauty.ie/index.php/daylight-defense-system/solar-defense-booster-spf-30/p_12.html

I've been using it for years now and wouldn't use anything else. You put 3 or 4 small dots on your face after your moisturiser and blend in to your skin. A little goes a long way so in the summer I could have this for 2 months.

Gooseygoosey

I use La Roche Posay Anthelios XL SPF 50+ Fluide Extreme each and every day...make up straight on after.

lonestargirl

Glowing wrote: »

I think it's better to go with proper sunscreen, i.e. SPF 30+ than just the usual 15 they put in moisturisers.

I have always used Neutrogena Sheer Touch facial sunscreen (you can only get it in the states but I order online)

http://www.neutrogena.com/econsumer/ntg/productdetail.browse?segment=women&catId=3&subCatId=9&productId=164&target=/products/sun/ultra-sheer-dry-touch-sunblock-spf-30-&-45.jsp

It doesn't block your pores, and is non-greasy - I wear it every day and haven't had any issues!

P.S it's definately a good idea to wear sunscreen every day, even winter! Have you ever been to Australia and seen the damage the sun has done, even to ladies in their late 20's/early 30s?

+1, this is great. I have really sensitive skin and this is perfect for me, I'm wearing F70 at the moment (but I do live in Texas!!). Their aerosol one is great for the body too, great coverage and stays on after a dip in the pool.

E.T.

Does anyone else find that facial suncreams make them break out in huge spots? I've tried every brand under the sun - finally found proactiv suncream in America last year thank god!

juke

This thread prompted me to research what sun-cream's are available before sailing starts up again. I need to protect against wind burn also.

I was told at a Clarins counter today that if for example I put spf 40 sun cream on my face and then put foundation on top, which has spf of 15, the 15 cancels out the 40

Surely not? Would I still not have the factor 40 coverage?

lubie76

No, thats not true. Some people make the mistake of thinking the two SPF's are added together to give a higher factor.

What they should have told you was that the 40 would cancel out the SPF15 or the higher factor prevails. It wouldn't matter which SPF was applied first.

milly4ever

E.T. wrote: »

Does anyone else find that facial suncreams make them break out in huge spots? I've tried every brand under the sun - finally found proactiv suncream in America last year thank god!

yes i find that- they can be so greasy! i just have a cheap asda one- a childrens' one for the high SPF. would like to get a different one- that i can get in this country though!

rainbow kirby

Hijacking this thread slightly - can anyone recommend a really waterproof factor 30-50 suncream? I currently use P20, but it doesn't last long enough for very long runs.

How Strange

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Hijacking this thread slightly - can anyone recommend a really waterproof factor 30-50 suncream? I currently use P20, but it doesn't last long enough for very long runs.

I used piz buin spf30 last year. It's one of the few suncreams that doesn't give me spots and it lasted through 20 mile runs.

carolinespring

saraasull wrote: »

hey girls i want to avoid aging so ive decided to buy a suncream for my face to wear every day underneath my makeup but over my moisturiser. i just have a few questions first.
firstly, would it be better to buy a moisturiser with spf included or just go for a suncream like i plan and put my moisturiser over it? alot of the spfs only contain protection from uvb rays and not the aging rays.
secondly, i want you to help me pick a suncream which does not contain chemicals? do you know of any? apparently alot of ageing is caused by the sun- would it be a good idea to wear suncream every day or a bad one?
would it do me any harm to wear suncream and moisturiser and makeup every day?- i.e. chemicals.
anyway fill out my poll for which suncream in boots i should go for girls if you know about any of them. thanks

Dermalogica do a great 30 factor one that you mix into your normal moisturuser. Cost a fair bit but lasts forever. I really am a fan of it.

Little Acorn

How often do you all reapply your sunscreen or sunblock? How does this work if you're wearing foundation? Does it mean having to reapply your makeup a few times a day?

This is from wilkepedia, but I read something about this a few years ago too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunscreen

Contrary to the common advice that sunscreen should be reapplied every 2–3 hours, some research has shown that the best protection is achieved by application 15–30 minutes before exposure, followed by one reapplication 15–30 minutes after the sun exposure begins. Further reapplication is only necessary after activities such as swimming, sweating, or rubbing/wiping.[6]
However, more recent research at the University of California, Riverside, indicates that sunscreen needs to be reapplied within 2 hours in order to remain effective. Not reapplying could even cause more cell damage than not using sunscreen at all, due to the release of extra free radicals from those sunscreen chemicals which were absorbed into the skin.[7] Some studies have shown that people commonly apply only 1/2 to 1/4 of the amount recommended to achieve the rated Sun Protection Factor (SPF), and in consequence the effective SPF should be downgraded to a square or 4th root of the advertised value.[8]

There's more information here from the university:
http://newsroom.ucr.edu/news_item.html?action=page&id=1399

It seems that sunscreen is brilliant when used correctly,but if sunscreen is not reapplied regularly it is just absorbed into the skin, which can actually increase sun damage.

Have the sunscreen makers found a way of combatting this problem yet, because I don't know how old that research is?

I had a few questions about these things myself recently in the Biology forum,
but found answer to the question I was wondering about here in Fashion and Appearance.

lubie76 No, thats not true. Some people make the mistake of thinking the two SPF's are added together to give a higher factor.

What they should have told you was that the 40 would cancel out the SPF15 or the higher factor prevails. It wouldn't matter which SPF was applied first.

Thanks lubie!

If anyone could help, regarding letting me know if they know of products that combat the problem of absorption of sunscreen, or if there is some other way around it without having to reapply sunscreen/ foundation/moistroiser a few times daily,that would be great .
Thanks!:)

lubie76

Thanks for the article Little Acorn, found it interesting and something to think about.

In relation to your question about what can enhance the effectiveness/ non absorption of suncream, I noticed in the article they mentioned antioxidants as a possible solution. On further research it seems that numerous studies have showed a topical application of antioxidants Vit C and Vit E combined increase the effectiveness of sunscreen as long as they are applied along with a good sunscreen and that this combination can increase the effectiveness of the sunscreen by up to 4 times. The summaries below are just an example and are taken from the Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology but you can find more online.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12789176"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12789176"]

There is a vitamin C and E serum product by Renee Rouleau but I don't know if its available in Ireland. Seems expensive for the small size and by the time you add P and P from USA if you get it online :eek:

http://www.reneerouleau.com/vitamincecomplex.aspx

Little My

I still love dermalogica oil free matte block. Great on its own and under makeup. Not greasy at all.

http://www.dermalogica.com/uk/products.html#/products/oil-free-matte-block-spf20

Little Acorn

lubie76 wrote: »

Thanks for the article Little Acorn, found it interesting and something to think about.

In relation to your question about what can enhance the effectiveness/ non absorption of suncream, I noticed in the article they mentioned antioxidants as a possible solution. On further research it seems that numerous studies have showed a topical application of antioxidants Vit C and Vit E combined increase the effectiveness of sunscreen as long as they are applied along with a good sunscreen and that this combination can increase the effectiveness of the sunscreen by up to 4 times. The summaries below are just an example and are taken from the Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology but you can find more online.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12789176"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12789176"]

There is a vitamin C and E serum product by Renee Rouleau but I don't know if its available in Ireland. Seems expensive for the small size and by the time you add P and P from USA if you get it online :eek:

http://www.reneerouleau.com/vitamincecomplex.aspx

Some interesting information there to consider. Thanks again for all the help.:)

Dark Phoenix

I love dermalogica ultra rich face block. I can't wear certain other brands as I have sensitive skin and they either react to it or give me spots!
The dermalogica solar booster is brilliant too as you can just add it to your normal moistiuroiser and it adds sun protection to it

milly4ever

saw an ad for laura mercier oil free spf 40+ moisturiser today (£25)- looks good , but i wonder if any other cheaper brands do oil free versions.