CK406

MaggieNF

hi, i was wondering if there was anyone already doing the course CK406 that could tell me about it, or knows someone that can?

thanks in advance

notnormal

I'm not doing CK406, but I'm doing CK402, which is quite similar, except that chem. science has an extra module called "history of chemistry" meant to be grand apart from the essay at the end of the year.

Overall, the chemistry in college is grand, especially if you've done it for leaving cert. 50% of marks for CM1000 is continuous assessment!

Inorganic (start of year) is easiest, physical chem is hardest, organic is alright if you learn it.

My only advice is to make sure you do all your labs and homework properly, they really take off the panic at the end of the year. Oh and do PATS (Peer Assisted Tutoring Sessions) that are offered by the Dept. The notes literally summarised the course!

PM me if you wanna know more, a lot of the info about the modules you'll take is here: http://www.ucc.ie/calendar/science/sci002.html

Parsley

I'm in 2nd year of CK406. You have three options when you go into the course between sets of subjects: 1 is pretty much biochem, 1 is pretty much physics and one is a kind of muddle of environmental science and physics. If you want my advice, go for the biochem-y option. I did the physics one and got in way over my head. The physics was deadly hard, even tho i got an A1 in leaving cert physics. the physics module that's in the biochem option is far easier. I had PY1052 and PY1053 which were awfully complicated and confusing. Barely passed them.

I'm in forensics now in second year and loving it.

Jay P

Parsley wrote: »

I'm in 2nd year of CK406. You have three options when you go into the course between sets of subjects: 1 is pretty much biochem, 1 is pretty much physics and one is a kind of muddle of environmental science and physics. If you want my advice, go for the biochem-y option. I did the physics one and got in way over my head. The physics was deadly hard, even tho i got an A1 in leaving cert physics. the physics module that's in the biochem option is far easier. I had PY1052 and PY1053 which were awfully complicated and confusing. Barely passed them.

I'm in forensics now in second year and loving it.

I will second this. I'm doing maths, and picked physics as my elective, and they are absolutely horrible. I cannot wait to drop physics - and I adored leaving cert physics.

MaggieNF

Parsley wrote: »

I'm in 2nd year of CK406. You have three options when you go into the course between sets of subjects: 1 is pretty much biochem, 1 is pretty much physics and one is a kind of muddle of environmental science and physics. If you want my advice, go for the biochem-y option. I did the physics one and got in way over my head. The physics was deadly hard, even tho i got an A1 in leaving cert physics. the physics module that's in the biochem option is far easier. I had PY1052 and PY1053 which were awfully complicated and confusing. Barely passed them.

I'm in forensics now in second year and loving it.

I'm thinking now that i would prefer either option one which is chem, maths, physics and biology or option 3 which is chemistry, maths, applied maths, physics


thing is i dont really like physics so i wanna avoid it or minimise it


how is forensics in second year cos thats what i wanna do?

notnormal

MaggieNF wrote: »

thing is i dont really like physics so i wanna avoid it or minimise it

If you really don't like physics take option one, it has the least physics, and PY1001 is quite basic as physics goes. I found that once I really sat down and forced myself to study it, it really helped.
And you can always pass it with 35% (labs and homework and continuous assessment made up 30% this year) if you pass all your other modules. It's called "pass by compensation" officially

Parsley

MaggieNF wrote: »

I'm thinking now that i would prefer either option one which is chem, maths, physics and biology or option 3 which is chemistry, maths, applied maths, physics


thing is i dont really like physics so i wanna avoid it or minimise it


how is forensics in second year cos thats what i wanna do?

if you want to do forensics, definitely pick the biology option, there's a fair bit of biology in second year and you have to have done it in first year or you can't do forensics (without personally asking favours of department heads to let you in )

Forensics in second year is great. You only have one forensics module, which starts after christmas but it's really interesting. Like, really interesting, it's great! also the course head is really sound and a great laugh.

MaggieNF

notnormal wrote: »

If you really don't like physics take option one, it has the least physics, and PY1001 is quite basic as physics goes. I found that once I really sat down and forced myself to study it, it really helped.
And you can always pass it with 35% (labs and homework and continuous assessment made up 30% this year) if you pass all your other modules. It's called "pass by compensation" officially

wow that is really awesome to know

Parsley wrote: »

if you want to do forensics, definitely pick the biology option, there's a fair bit of biology in second year and you have to have done it in first year or you can't do forensics (without personally asking favours of department heads to let you in )

Forensics in second year is great. You only have one forensics module, which starts after christmas but it's really interesting. Like, really interesting, it's great! also the course head is really sound and a great laugh.

thank god i found that out, otherwise would of been in trouble


sounds like the course is really great. im excited now

jonny ambition

notnormal wrote: »

If you really don't like physics take option one, it has the least physics, and PY1001 is quite basic as physics goes. I found that once I really sat down and forced myself to study it, it really helped.
And you can always pass it with 35% (labs and homework and continuous assessment made up 30% this year) if you pass all your other modules. It's called "pass by compensation" officially

Agree here, I'm in first year CK406 and I'm in option 3. Physics is tough and so is the math but the Chemistry is fine (never did chemistry in the leaving). I really enjoy Physics and will be doing a joint in Physics and Chemistry so if anyone is not too sure wether they will take the Physics path or the Chemistry, option 3 is a great choice for them. Alternatively they could do Astro Physics with a chemistry module.

OP if you wanna go into Forensics go with Chem Science option 1 or biochem.

Seanh111

notnormal wrote: »

If you really don't like physics take option one, it has the least physics, and PY1001 is quite basic as physics goes. I found that once I really sat down and forced myself to study it, it really helped.
And you can always pass it with 35% (labs and homework and continuous assessment made up 30% this year) if you pass all your other modules. It's called "pass by compensation" officially

hi I'm in ck402 aswel, and I didn't know about this pass by compensation? Does that mean if we pass all the biologys, maths and chemistry modules but get 35% in physics we still pass the year? But do we still need to get 40% in the final exam, or could we fail that exam but still pass if we had 35% overall? :O

Papa_Lazarou

Seanh111 wrote: »

hi I'm in ck402 aswel, and I didn't know about this pass by compensation? Does that mean if we pass all the biologys, maths and chemistry modules but get 35% in physics we still pass the year? But do we still need to get 40% in the final exam, or could we fail that exam but still pass if we had 35% overall? :O

Don't know how it works exactly. You might want to get onto the course co-ordinators about it but i know that in first year i got 33% in physics(had a huge hatred for the subject) and did pretty well in all the rest of my subjects and they passed me by compensation on the physics exam. Was over the moon when i saw it

Parsley

Seanh111 wrote: »

hi I'm in ck402 aswel, and I didn't know about this pass by compensation? Does that mean if we pass all the biologys, maths and chemistry modules but get 35% in physics we still pass the year? But do we still need to get 40% in the final exam, or could we fail that exam but still pass if we had 35% overall? :O

technically, you only need to pass modules to the value of 50 credits, out of the 60 you take, as long as you get above 30% overall in the other 10 credits' worth if you fail them.

For example, last year, i passed 50 credits worth of modules grand. in PY1053, i attempted only 9% of the written paper and probably got most of it wrong I had a good chunk of marks from labs and continuous assessment, and in my results, it said 31%, pass by compensation. I was delira