Malcolm McLaren RIP

Has passed away, aged 64. Yes he may have cynically manipulated the Sex Pistols, but damn he had some great tracks in the 80s...

Madam Butterfly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2Drw2_HmK0

Aria on Air

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxbgm9Bmkzw&feature=related

Skerries

always liked that Madame Butterfly video for some reason

Caveat

Existing thread somewhere already guys.

JDee

A true pioneer. He not only took Punk to the mainstream and shook up the industry but he also brought the "scratching" hip hop sound to the UK/Irish masses.

When I heard this track below as a very young kid it blew my mind. A few years back on my very first legal radio stint on Premier FM Jim Kenny let us all play our favourite 30 songs from the '50s upto 1989 on our last weekend on air and this track below was in my Top 30. I still have it on 7"!

As a kid Id try to "scratch" this track to emulate the sound so Id say my original copy is not exactly in Ebay condition

This is an immensely important record in DJ/Dance music history and I'll be playing it on the radio show today on RTE Pulse for sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SgvJY9xxcA

Caveat

Caveat wrote: »

Existing thread somewhere already guys.

On the electronic boards? Can't see it.

I'm not going to go into some punk forum, and would like him whether the Sex Pistols or the New York Dolls existed or not. For me his stuff in the 80s is what I remember and like.

Caveat

No, not punk - just music general.

Here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055878541&highlight=malcolm

Actually, sorry didn't notice this was electronic sub forum. Has it's own relevance obviously - thought it was mere duplication. My bad.

stomprockin

"i would like to dedicate this record to all the DJs in the entire world"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18bkvJRK7rw

Malcolm Mclaren !!!

bildo

total legend. RIP

tman

JDee wrote: »

As a kid Id try to "scratch" this track to emulate the sound so Id say my original copy is not exactly in Ebay condition

This is an immensely important record in DJ/Dance music history and I'll be playing it on the radio show today on RTE Pulse for sure[/B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SgvJY9xxcA

Hah, I used to do the same! Still couldn't scratch to save my life mind you...
This is a sad loss... The man was a true pioneer:(

jonnny68

RIP sad news

Skerries

check out his website it says he will be back

copeyhagen

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Has passed away, aged 64. Yes he may have cynically manipulated the Sex Pistols, but damn he had some great tracks in the 80s...

Madam Butterfly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2Drw2_HmK0

Aria on Air

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxbgm9Bmkzw&feature=related

big loss, madam butterfly is sooooo good

Is mise le key

Seeing as this thread is not solely about the music of Malcolm Mclaren there is room to highlight his more than cynical manipulation of the sex pistols........check out this documentary,

The filth & the Fury

A not so glamoruos picture is painted, but more a disgustingly ruthless side to him all around sid viscious's drug addiction when they were touring america.......he did anything to keep the money coming in regardless of what it did to the band members which is revealed in the documentary.......i am not one to speak ill of the dead as i have more respect for myself than that, but i would not concur with the theme of this thread that he is a figure of admiration........far far from it.

Is mise le key

Is mise le key wrote: »

Seeing as this thread is not solely about the music of Malcolm Mclaren there is room to highlight his more than cynical manipulation of the sex pistols........check out this documentary,

The filth & the Fury

Have seen it. It was more than a little manipulative itself. Afair, every time they gave any quote or line from the McLaren angle, they showed a man in a gimp mask? Either way, I have no doubt but that the Sex Pistols would have been little or nothing without McLaren, it's a bit like saying Louis Walsh exploits Girls Aloud. Yes he does, it's the music business, it's not pretty but it's what happens, and Girls Aloud have done very well for themselves on the back of being exploited. The Filthy Lucre Tour suggested the Sex Pistols were not shy of a great rock n roll swindle themselves.

Is mise le key

Im not one that cant see that any film or piece of footage can be put across to present any one in the way the editor wants, It may not be an impartial production as you have said but i do beleive that whatever you think about John Lydon he is straight in what he says & cuts out the bull & from his version of events in the documentary when they were touring america McLaren made sure sid vicious was going to stay hooked on heroin which ultimatley led to his death.......not a role model of a man in my book.

Whatever film/documentary you watch there is without a doubt something nasty about his entire dealings with the sex pistols which in my book doesnt just get swept under the carpet because of his contributions to music & fashion.......Malcolm McLaren's name = money as a brand & a lot of people will spin what is nessessary to distort favorably how the man is perceived regardless of what he did to ruin peoples lives.

That just my take on things & how i see it.

Is mise le key

Is mise le key wrote: »

whatever you think about John Lydon he is straight in what he says & cuts out the bull

Much and all as I like John Lydon the performer (more so for PiL than the Sex Pistols), I'm not sure I would completely accept the integrity of someone who rails against the system one moment and then appears on butter ads or I'm a Celebrity get Me Out of Here for the money the next. He is also at the centre of a number of assault allegations, including one on Duffy, so again not sure I would accept without question his character assassination of another. But on the other hand I have no doubt but that McLaren exploited them.

Is mise le key wrote: »

from his version of events in the documentary when they were touring america McLaren made sure sid vicious was going to stay hooked on heroin

Did anyone clarify what Lydon did to get him off drugs then? It would seem to me that, if one pins Vicious problems on McLaren, it helpfully deflects any suggestion that the other band members stood by and watched him and did nothing themselves. Tbh, I don't know (nor care) enough about the Sex Pistols to analyse it, but the point I am really making is that Lydon is a very very strange man himself.