Scottish Establishment Paedophile Ring Exposed

TalkieWalkie

I though i'd do my part to spread the word on this coverup. Please read and watch the following, comment and share.

Hollie Greig, names 17 paedophiles, many of whom are highly respected and trusted members of society in Scotland. This story and murder is covered up by people at the head of criminal investigations in Scotland.

Reporter Robert Green was arrested in Aberdeen for the crime of seeking justice and an investigation into the case of Down's Syndrome girl, Hollie Greig, who says she was serially-raped over a decade by an establishment paedophile ring operating in Scotland.

Robert is now out on bail and with a gagging order against him in an effort to stop him naming the people that Hollie says were involved. But before the order he recorded the video presentation here ...
5 parts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MKt4RlDktA&feature=player_embedded


David Icke interview on this case...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z-1kugqbpY

The story of Hollie Greig...
http://www.paltelegraph.com/columnists/peter-eyre/4403-the-deeply-upsetting-story-of-hollie-greig

Brown Bomber

Reminds me a lot of the Dunblaine Massacre. Alleged links to VIP paedophile rings, alleged freemason connections.

enno99

here is a list posted on other sites i seen a while ago

maybe the mods will put the link to infowars ireland in the links thread

http://info-wars.org/2010/01/10/a-list-of-child-sex-offenders-inside-the-british-government/

fontanalis

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Reminds me a lot of the Dunblaine Massacre. Alleged links to VIP paedophile rings, alleged freemason connections.

Alleged by who, but then again in CT world nothing ois too tragic to make a story out off.

Brown Bomber

fontanalis wrote: »

Alleged by who, but then again in CT world nothing ois too tragic to make a story out off.

Lets get this straight, if there was a hint of a masonic coverup of a masonic child abuse ring would you have a problem with it being investigated?

Edit: You can replace masonic with police for the 2nd question.

fontanalis

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Lets get this straight, if there was a hint of a masonic coverup of a masonic child abuse ring would you have a problem with it being investigated?

Edit: You can replace masonic with police for the 2nd question.

No, and why didn't you say who alleged it?

Torakx

Its in the youtube links.

Lab_Mouse

Torakx wrote: »

Its in the youtube links.

Cant watch that gobsh1te icke and not watching 5 parts.Have wasted too many hours watching youtube clips posted on this forum:D



Will google and see if there areany news reports nearer to home than the palestine telegraph.

Lab_Mouse

Here's a link to the press and journal an aberdeen newspaper(I think!)
http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1488131

CPS saying that there wasnt enough evidence to presecute.The girl recieved 13500 quid in compensation,but it doesnt say what for...

You would think the private investigators could do a bit better than just naming the alleged abusers, like getting evidence that would stick in court?

Torakx

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

Here's a link to the press and journal an aberdeen newspaper(I think!)
http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1488131

CPS saying that there wasnt enough evidence to presecute.The girl recieved 13500 quid in compensation,but it doesnt say what for...

You would think the private investigators could do a bit better than just naming the alleged abusers, like getting evidence that would stick in court?

What evidence could you get for sexual abuse well after its happened?
A witness? most of the witnesses involved in any abuse would probably be the abusers or the one victim.
Plus the girl has down syndrome and cannot communicate her thoughts well from what i saw.So its up to believing her mother and the investigators.
It is strange that someone would recieve compensation for something that didnt happen.

Lab_Mouse

Torakx wrote: »

What evidence could you get for sexual abuse well after its happened?

No physical anyway.Think thats the why a lot of older abuse cases are harder to bring to court.What contact did she have with these people?Could she be placed with them on certain dates?Not really sure must check and see how the gardai here get the convictions in older abuse cases.Obviously withopu the suspect admitting it.

Playing devil's advocate now...the girl is handicapped so would be easily influenced.Im sure the CPS would of considered the doctors reports when deciding whether or not to prosecute.Also in the news reports its not mentioned WHY she got the compensation. I think we are just assuming it's to do with the alleged abuse.Also if the CPS found there was no evidence i.e the suspects have no case to answer, it would explain why the journalist was gagged.

My personal opinion....I just dont know.Will watch and see how the case unfolds

enno99

It seems these people have been involved in similar cases

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1331711/Procurator-apologises-to-girl-10-in-sex-case.html

studiorat

Millionaire Conspiracy Theory dude Jim Corr was all over this last month. Ten years on the go. It's absolutely awful, really no suprise that the police kept this at the bottom of the pile 'cause one of their own was involved. It happens daily here, not to the extent of this case obviously, but it's hardly suprising that the police are able to protect their own and do so frequently.

mf135

Local Aberdeen press reports from Press & Journal who have reported very neutrally for obvious reasons. Fair play to them for running the story, but they seem to be the only UK paper running it. Shame on the rest.

http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1488131

http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1604682/

http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1649525

Palastine web newpaper with most recent news.

http://www.paltelegraph.com/columnists/peter-eyre/5290-member-of-hollies-army-targets-malcolm-chisholm-smp

We await the reponse of the Scottish parliament ( if it ever gets there )

TalkieWalkie

David Icke talks about the Holly case and it's links to the Lockaby bombing and the Dunblane massacre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQCPYmEikCU

TalkieWalkie

UK. June 13, 2010 Pal Telegraph, by Peter Eyre

In our previous story we discussed the Shropshire Police raid on Hollies house whilst she was away on holiday. However there now appears to be something more sinister going on here that obviously connects with the Paedolphilia ring in Aberdeen.

Why would police spend so much time in the house and then remove her computer and who would have sparked this activity. Have the Grampian Police and Shrophire Police gone beyond their jurisdiction and is this a massive cover-up for the many people there were accused of Paedophilia in Scotland. Are they so worried now that they will try any tactic to get this story out of the limelight……on the contrary….doing what they are doing draws more attention to the case and clearly show that the police are in gross neglect of their duties in investigating a major Paedophile ring in Aberdeen involving the Sheriff of Aberdeen, Police, Headmaster, Social Services/Welfare (including Hollies carers and many more.

Have the Grampian Police now got the Shropshire Police to do their dirty work and when will Mr. David Cameron and Scotland Yard insist that the Scottish Government carryout an immediate investigation into the sordid case? And why isn’t the investigation now extending into England after the involvement of the Shropshire Police? There are some deeply suspicious goings on that must now cast doubt of the ability of the Coalition to arrest control of this country and fix the deep routed corruption that is obviously taking place both in the Grampian Police Force and now the Shropshire Police Force. One should also extend this corruption to the Aberdeen City Council/Aberdeen Health and Welfare Departments and also the Shropshire Council. Shropshire Health and Welfare Departments.

Hollie was gang raped from the age of 6 for 14 years by her Father, Her Brother and the satanic group under the leadership of Sheriff Buchannan.

We have also observed a major cover – up by the First Minister for Scotland, Alex Salmond, Cabinet Secretary, Kenny MacAskill and the notorious Lord Advocate, Elish Angilini.

Since this was revealed into the world media (except the controlled /gagged UK media) we have had a general election. It is therefore time to draw attention to those currently in power and remind them it is their duty of care to follow up on the Hollie Greig case and the murder of her Uncle Robert. This is not simply a case of not having enough witness’s (which is totally untrue) because other children were also abused and raped. It is not just a simple case of the suicide of her uncle but rather that of murder (based on his autopsy report).

Robert_Green_Bail_ConditionsSo let’s name and shame all those currently in office who should immediately set up an open and transparent inquiry into this terrible case. Hollie was so brutally raped that she was bleeding both back and front whilst at the same time was found to have a sexually transmitted disease none of which was passed on to her mother Anne. The headmaster of her school knew of the medical problems and said nothing…..it transpired that he was also part and parcel of the problem.

So here are those currently in power who are directly responsible for taking steps to not only investigate this satanic case but also to ensure it does not happen again. The big issue here is that they all must surely know and continue to remain silent.

Rogues Gallery

First Minister for Scotland – Alex Salmond (knew of the situation and did nothing)
Cabinet Secretary - Kenny MacAskill (knew of the situation and did nothing)
Lord Advocate – Elish Angiolini (knew of the situation and did nothing)
List of those currently in office who have the duty of care to investigate this matter
Deputy First Minister/Cabinet Secretary for Health & Well Being – Nicola Sturgeon
Minister for Children and Early Years – Adam Ingram
Minister for Public Health and Sport – Shona Robison
Minister for Community Safety – Fergus Ewing
Solicitor General – Frank Mulholland

So let’s look at exactly what is going on in Shropshire and see what questions remain unanswered:
This is a letter from Robert Green (who is looking after Anne and Hollie Greig) to Stephen Chandler, Assistant Director of Adult Social Care in Shropshire Council:

Shropshire_CouncilTo: Stephen.chandler@shropshire.gov.uk
Subject: Hollie Greig
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:04:59 +0000



Dear Mr. Chandler,

I have some questions to put to you in relation to the break-in and raid on the home of my clients, Hollie and Anne Greig on Thursday 3rd June. In view of the many serious criminal implications surrounding the wider case of Hollie Greig and others connected to it, I would advise you to answer as honestly as you can.

On what possible grounds did Shropshire Community Services declare that Hollie Greig be deemed a missing person?

I understand that the break-in was begun at approximately 15.00 hrs, that there were around six people involved and that the raid was terminated some time after 18.00hrs.

Were any personnel from Community Services among the break-in team and if so, could you provide the identity (ies)?

Why did it take so many people to search for Hollie in such a small house and why were they there for so long?

Why was Anne Greig`s computer removed?

Were any other documents taken from the house and if so, why?

If documents were removed, were any of these forwarded to Mr. Greg Lance-Watkins, about whom you have already acknowledged as being one of your contacts in this case?

Are you aware that this individual is operating from a government-restricted line?

Shropshire Community Services has a duty to protect the interests of vulnerable persons such as Hollie Greig. In what way would this obligation be consistent with the unwarranted violation of their home and the appalling state in which it was left after the raid?

The alarm and distress caused to Hollie and her mother by this cruel and malicious conduct was very considerable and those responsible for this shocking incident, whoever they may be, will be held to account. I was present when Hollie and Anne returned to their home after being locked out. I do not believe that there should be any place in publicly-funded services for individuals who display such contempt of human rights, particularly when Hollie and Anne Greig have been victims of some of the most horrific crimes imaginable.

Finally, were you personally responsible for this, or were you simply "obeying orders"?

If the latter is applicable, who gave the orders?

Robert Green

Lay Legal Representative for Hollie and Anne Greig

As you can see this was a most outrageous act and as Robert pointed out certainly borders on a breach of human rights. This type of activity is common in Palestine (as carried out by the Israeli almost daily) but one would assume that British Police and the Shrophire Authorities are a little more civilized, but obviously not.

It was Mr. Stephen Chandler who once headed a committee last year called :

TRANSFORMING ADULT SOCIAL CARE: THE PERSONALISATION AGENDA

Some of the background punch lines for this agenda were as follows:

* Our Health, Our Care, Our Say
* Putting People First
* Transforming Social Care

In one paragraph it stated the following:

There is an increase in public expectations. Older people, disabled people and people with mental health problems rightly expect both equality of citizenship and support which places dignity and care at the centre of any intervention.

Hollies_Army_copy_copy_copyThis expectation extends to greater choice and control over the support that

they might need. These expectations cannot be met through traditional

approaches to delivering social care services. A fundamental change in Adult
Social Care is required in order to ensure that the needs of each unique person
can be met in a way that suits their personal and individual circumstances. This
new policy is referred to as “Personalisation”.

Well Mr. Chandler you certainly placed dignity and care in Hollie Greigs case!!

You certainly did not use a traditional approach to Hollie Greig and you certainly did use fundamental change in order to meet the needs of each unique person…..wouldn’t you say that Hollie is a very unique person and even more so with what she had to endure under the eyes of the United Kingdom Police and Judicial System.

I would like to remind the Scottish Government and their corrupt Legal System that this case will no go away. Despite your attempts to scuttle the entire Hollies Army we are all up and running again and in a more organized way than before.

To Sheriff Buchanan in particular, we are onto your trail and you have nowhere to run. I would strongly suggest that you step down without delay and face your maker or Hollies Army will drive you out of Scotland.

Peodophilia is rife in Politics, The Legal System, Education, Social Welfare & Care, The Church and almost every corner that you turn. It is rife at senior levels of Freemasonry and it is time for our Prime Minster to show true grit and commence proceedings against this cult that contaminates the UK.

http://www.paltelegraph.com/columnists/peter-eyre/6388-hollie-greig-plot-thickens-as-police-raid-her-house

HenrikL

whoa this is some scary stuff. I am from ABerdeen (dont live there now) and have never even heard of this case.

What are the Ickes and Corrs of this world saying about it?

TalkieWalkie

Read back over the thread, there is a short video of icke there

TalkieWalkie

Edge Media TV: 1/10 Robert Green, Anne and Hollie Greig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4UZ9cI5iE0

All parts
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Edge+Media+TV%3A+3%2F10+Robert+Green%2C+Anne+and+Hollie+Greig&aq=f

caseyann

That one is very like the one in France were it was said of a little town there,over 457 or around that were swapping their kids for sexual abuse
Any one hear about that one?

Brown Bomber

caseyann wrote: »

That one is very like the one in France were it was said of a little town there,over 457 or around that were swapping their kids for sexual abuse
Any one hear about that one?

Angers?

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1050205-1,00.html

Another link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4697747.stm

caseyann

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Angers?

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1050205-1,00.html

Another link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4697747.stm

Thats it :mad: I didnt know all details as i heard on radio news.
I wonder how many more is there and how can it happen.
How many more is there.

Daithi 1

This is another obvious attempt to silence Robert Green... Absolute disgrace :mad:

Please sign this petition
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/official-greig-green-petition/


Robert Green Imprisoned For 1 Year


Robert received nine months for the alleged breach of the peace, and three months for breaking bail conditions.




Article | February 17, 2012 - 12:28pm


Elish Angiolini & Edward Bowen

The UK Column is appalled by the decision of Sheriff Principle Edward Bowen to jail Robert Green today in what can only be described as a huge miscarriage of justice.
Robert has been the leading campaigner in support of justice for Hollie Greig. The legal proceedings against him came as the result of his arrest for attempting to distribute leaflets while standing as a Parliamentary candidate in Aberdeen at the last General Election. Robert had been standing on the single issue of the alleged, uninvestigated, abuse of Hollie Greig while she was a child.
Since his arrest, Robert has been subject to numerous breaches of his human rights, and repeated irregularities in the legal process, culminating in a trial presided over by a Sheriff with what seems to be a clear conflict if interest - the apparent friendship between Sheriff Bowen and Elish Angiolini. A complaint has already been lodged with the Judicial Office.
Robert has clearly been imprisoned to send a message to everyone campaigning for Hollie.
While we would like to express our concerns for Robert's safety in a Scottish prison, we would also like to echo the sentiments of the Hollie Demands Justice campaign - this campaign will not be silenced through this type of blatant intimidation.

Please sign this petition
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/official-greig-green-petition/

Daithi 1

For those who are not familiar with the Hollie Grieg case.... >

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3HrUzreZLw

Daithi 1

watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmNPK1RQK9Q

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

For those who are not familiar with the Hollie Grieg case.... >

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3HrUzreZLw

I notice that this woman is closely associated with the epic moonbat 'John Hill' aka 'JAH' aka 'Muad'dib', who believes himself to be the true King of England and the Israelites and that the world is run by 'counterfeit Jews' (who made up a third of Hitler's armies), and that adulterers and homosexuals should be executed. Those are some of his more reasonable beliefs: the man makes David Icke look like the absolute model of mental health.

There may or may not be something to this case (I don't know any of the facts) but my BS detector goes into overdrive when I see associations like this - which is unfortunate if there is a miscarriage of justice in this instance. That's what happens when you sacrifice your credibility.

Daithi 1

Monty Burnz wrote: »

(I don't know any of the facts)

Learn some facts and come back. There is plenty of information on this thread and elsewhere.

Hollie Greig is a liar because Belinda McKenzie is associated with John Hill ??

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Learn some facts and come back. There is plenty of information on this thread and elsewhere.

Unfortunately, due to the total lack of credibility of the woman associated with the cause, I can't be arsed. There are only so many conspiracies I can look into, and this one is tainted from the off.

Hence I won't post anymore on this thread in case I derail it, I just wanted to highlight the connection.

Daithi 1

As far as I can tell, Belinda McKenzie interviewed John Hill one time, it's not exactly a close association.

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

As far as I can tell, Belinda McKenzie interviewed John Hill one time, it's not exactly a close association.

Watch the first 60 seconds of this unedited version of the same recording:

She isn't interviewing Mr. Dib, the guy behind the camera is. She justifies her presence in there by explaining that she is 'hosting him' in her home. Not just a one-off interview - she is putting him up as a guest, it seems.

Daithi 1

I think she meant she was hosting him for the interview.

Probably best that you listen to Hollies testimony and make up your own mind before you start pointing fingers at friends of friends of friends or friends.

It seems to me that she is supportive of several people who suffer injustice by the establishment, despite their beliefs.

I would class her as a good person, a helpful and caring unselfish person.

I tend to look for the good in people, some obviously search for the bad and if there is none, it's created.

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I think she meant she was hosting him for the interview.

Probably best that you listen to Hollies testimony and make up your own mind before you start pointing fingers at friends of friends of friends or friends.

It seems to me that she is supportive of several people who suffer injustice by the establishment, despite their beliefs.

I would class her as a good person, a helpful and caring unselfish person.

I tend to look for the good in people, some obviously search for the bad and if there is none, it's created.

But what if he was staying at her gaff? This is the same guy who wants gays and adulterers executed and wants to be king with the power of life and death over us all according to his crazed beliefs.

I accept that it's possible that she sat in the video for some reason as a scenic backdrop, in which case she has associated herself with a total loon, but is not necessarily tainted by him unless she knows the whole panoply of lunacy he believes.

On the other hand, I think it's also possible that he was a house guest there, in which case she is rather tainted by association, which does no good for any genuine causes she gets involved with.

Daithi 1

Monty Burnz wrote: »

But what if he was staying at her gaff? This is the same guy who wants gays and adulterers executed and wants to be king with the power of life and death over us all according to his crazed beliefs.

I accept that it's possible that she sat in the video for some reason as a scenic backdrop, in which case she has associated herself with a total loon, but is not necessarily tainted by him unless she knows the whole panoply of lunacy he believes.

On the other hand, I think it's also possible that he was a house guest there, in which case she is rather tainted by association, which does no good for any genuine causes she gets involved with.

It's been a couple of years since I read all the details of the Hollie Grieg case but as far as I recall, her rapes by the establishment occurred since she was about 5 years old until her late teens, she is now 30+ years old.
Long before Belinda McKenzie was on the scene. Hollie and her mother faught the establishment alone for years and were intimidated and harrased by members of the police and others, they were alone in their fight until recent years, it would be my guess that they would welcome any help available to them, even from a woman who you think is mates with someone who you think is a mad man.

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

even from a woman who you think is mates with someone who you think is a mad man.

Do you think that he isn't mad? :eek:

Daithi 1

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Do you think that he isn't mad? :eek:

I don't know about him well enough to have an opinion, perhaps you should borrow that logic from me, regarding Hollie.

I seen his documentary 7/7, which I thought was excellent, that's about it.

Daithi 1

Funny that you managed to derail the thread even when you were trying your hardest not to.

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I don't know about him well enough to have an opinion, perhaps you should borrow that logic from me, regarding Hollie.

I seen his documentary 7/7, which I thought was excellent, that's about it.

If you spend 5 minutes looking at his stuff, any sane person will know that he's mad.

Yeah, apologies for the derailing, but it wouldn't have happened if you just acknowledged my point as I acknowledged yours.

Daithi 1

So any down syndrome girls who's mother associates with someone who associates with someone who is considered mad by some people somewhere, cant be trusted, and alerts your bull**** detector.

K, I get you.

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

So any down syndrome girls who's mother associates with someone who associates with someone who is considered mad by some people somewhere, cant be trusted, and alerts your bull**** detector.

K, I get you.

I think you are being deliberately obtuse, and this discussion is going nowhere. Good luck with publicising this case.

Daithi 1

Daithi 1 wrote: »

So any down syndrome girls who's mother associates with someone who associates with someone who is considered mad by some people somewhere, cant be trusted, and alerts your bull**** detector.

K, I get you.

Your opinion kinda looks silly when it's spelt out like that, doesn't it.

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I think you are being deliberately obtuse, and this discussion is going nowhere. Good luck with publicising this case.

Looks like we've come full circle then.

S.L.F

Anobody looking for a devastating fantasy look no further than the Hollie Greig case.

S.L.F

Here is a radio interview between Mark Daly BBC journalist who was asked by Robert Green to look at the story and who saw it for what it was and was attacked by Robert and the Hollie Campaign and Ann Greig and Robert Green.

http://cuttingthroughtherubbish.blogspot.ie/2010/07/transcript-of-tony-legend-show-with_9069.html

Incidently Robert and Ann are no longer on speaking terms.

The senior police officer who is supposed to have abused Hollie was a civilian finger print specialist.

Robert was not jailed for handing out leaflets, he was jailed for putting leaflets in peoples doors claiming that their named neighbours are child abusers and murders.

In this day and age you simply cannot name unconvicted people of such crimes.

S.L.F

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

Here's a link to the press and journal an aberdeen newspaper(I think!)
http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1488131

CPS saying that there wasnt enough evidence to presecute.The girl recieved 13500 quid in compensation,but it doesnt say what for...

You would think the private investigators could do a bit better than just naming the alleged abusers, like getting evidence that would stick in court?

More than that he named people who don't even exist, 3 people on the list are figments of someone's imagination.

So much for him investigating it properly