Where on the political compass do Irish broadsheets fall?

runswithascript

As the title says I'm curious as to your opinion on whether and in what direction the major broadsheets such as The Irish Times and the Irish Independent lean?

irishh_bob

irish times = centre left
irish indo = centre right
sunday indo = centre right
sunday tribune = centre

oppenheimer1

irishh_bob wrote: »

irish times = centre left
irish indo = centre right
sunday indo = centre right
sunday tribune = centre

I would go so far to say that the Independent doesn't take a consistent editorial line, and backs whatever it thinks is the most popular.

PomBear

Irish Times is not left, tey're just more liberal and non-FF bias like the Indo

JustinDee

irishh_bob wrote: »

irish times = centre left
irish indo = centre right
sunday indo = centre right
sunday tribune = centre

You've gotten the call on Irish Times and Sunday Tribune wrong there.
Irish Times is as centred as you can get. The Sunday Tribune would be a so-called 'centre-left'.

mike65

Examiner says what about me?

bijapos

Examiner says you're from C*** !!;)

Seriously though, its not a bad paper at times, bought it a few times over the past year or two, so its hard for me to say where exactly they lie but I'd say centreish.

irishh_bob

JustinDee wrote: »

You've gotten the call on Irish Times and Sunday Tribune wrong there.
Irish Times is as centred as you can get. The Sunday Tribune would be a so-called 'centre-left'.

the irish times is most certainly left , fintan o toole , vincent browne

orourkeda

irishh_bob wrote: »

irish times = centre left
irish indo = centre right
sunday indo = centre right
sunday tribune = centre

In the toilet

Hotblack Desiato

irishh_bob wrote: »

the irish times is most certainly left , fintan o toole , vincent browne

Moore McDowell?

RayM

irishh_bob wrote: »

the irish times is most certainly left , fintan o toole , vincent browne

A couple of left-of-centre columnists hardly makes the Times a left-wing paper. Its editor is a former Progressive Democrat TD...

If we were to use that kind of skewed logic, perhaps the presence of Gene Kerrigan means that the Sunday Independent is centre-left too?

JustinDee

irishh_bob wrote: »

the irish times is most certainly left , fintan o toole , vincent browne

Now list those on the other side of the coin who have the op-ed section in the Irish Times. Would you call Zion Avory, Pat Cox and Mark Steyn 'left wing'. Charles Krauthammer was certainly not a left wing pundit either.

This is what is called 'balance'. Printing two sides on a subject. Nobody is straight down the middle 'centre'.
What that paper does is simply report the news as per wire or correspondent delivery and then give people the right to speak, whatever position along the political spectrum they may reside.

irishh_bob

JustinDee wrote: »

Now list those on the other side of the coin who have the op-ed section in the Irish Times. Would you call Zion Avory, Pat Cox and Mark Steyn 'left wing'. Charles Krauthammer was certainly not a left wing pundit either.

This is what is called 'balance'. Printing two sides on a subject. Nobody is straight down the middle 'centre'.
What that paper does is simply report the news as per wire or correspondent delivery and then give people the right to speak, whatever position along the political spectrum they may reside.

steyn , krauthammer are both syndicated collumnists , i doubt either of them even know they feature in the irish times , while i accept that geraldine kennedy was an ex PD , the irish times ethos is one of pro high public spending - high taxation , multi culturalist , progressive values etc

dlofnep

Irish Times is centre left, although at times it can border on the left or centre - depending on the topic.

Irish Independant = Centre Right, although some articles can be very far right.

cml387

Left and right don't mean much in the Irish context,given that our two main political parties don't conform to left/right stereotypes.

Irish Times:Anti-Fianna Fail, and has been for most of the time I've been reading it.

Irish Independent:Doesn't show any real leaning but controversially backed FF in 1997,and has had to live with that ever since.

Sunday Independent:Was hysterically for Bertie (Gus Fanning was big friend) and now acts like a jilted lover,dripping venom on Biffo and all who ride with him.

Historical note :Indo was for FG when the Irish Press (FF house paper) existed.

Examiner:For Cork

Irish Daily Mail:Anti everything.

JustinDee

irishh_bob wrote: »

steyn , krauthammer are both syndicated collumnists , i doubt either of them even know they feature in the irish times

I don't think you get my point. A newspaper cannot be neutral in any one opinion piece. Nobody can.
What a paper like the Irish Times does is print both sides of the story. This is about as centred as one can get in print media. If you can find a more centred publication in the UK, for example, do point it out.

And you can bet your tooshy that a syndicated pundit knows when and where they're printed.

Dannyboy83

Irish Times:
Left.
For conceited people mainly, its kind of like having a Gucci handbag.
"I don't actually read the news, but I buy the Irish Times so I must be an intellectual."
4stars (out of 5)

Irish Independent
Varies between Right and All over the shop.
Now the paper of choice for the private sector since the public sector have boycotted it. A bit too much yellow journalism at times.
4stars

Sunday Independent:
Does anyone actually read it?
unknown stars

Sunday tribune:
Only read it online, but I like it in small doses
3 stars

Examiner: Centre enough but has become a bit of a tabloid in recent years. Omits Dumpland amap from it's pages which adequately compensates. JAYSUS BUD, WHA?
3 stars (loss of two stars because they need to badly improve their website, but regains one star for ignoring dumpland.)

rightwingdub

Irish Indo- anti sinn fein
Sunday Indo virulently anti Sinn Fein
Irish times: Mildly anti Sinn Fein
Sunday Tribune: anti sinn fein

Okay on the political compass

Sunday Indo: pro Fianna Fail
Irish Indo: possibly symapthetic to FG
Irish times: Labour
Sunday Tribune: Labour