should Declan Ganley set up a new party to save Ireland

unit 1

So Mr Ganley bane of Lisbon 1 has been quite since Lisbon 2.
Q. What's the opinion out there, would he be a runner for a new party, to tap into the "anger" out there, or would it be strangled at birth by our encumbents ie FF FG ect.

Tim Robbins

unit 1 wrote: »

So Mr Ganley bane of Lisbon 1 has been quite since Lisbon 2.
Q. What's the opinion out there, would he be a runner for a new party, to tap into the "anger" out there, or would it be strangled at birth by our encumbents ie FF FG ect.

#It would actually increase people voting for FF.

People in Ireland think about how dodgy things are.
In number one place are Sinn Fein, still extremly dodgy in most people's eyes. Then Socialist Party. Then FF. Then Unions - I mean Labour.

FG are picking up votes not because of any inspiration purely because of a lack of a credible alternative.

Ganley comes along and has the dodge factor as Sinn Fein so he makes FF look less dodgy than they actually are.

peasant

He already did and he failed ...thank God !

katkin

We're not that ****ed! Declan Ganley is a self-serving creep, we've enough of them thanks

Seth Brundle

We have enough snake oil salesmen in the Dáil already!

greendom

What would his policies be? How would he "Save" Ireland?

mike65

A new "protest" party is the last thing this county needs, no better way to undermine the opposition. (FF may be setting one up as I type)

unit 1

I have no idea what policies if any he may or may not have but he did seem to have a creepy sort of charisma that might have tapped into a disillusioned underbelly, if such thing existed in Ireland. I suspect however it does'nt and in truth so many people are bewildered and scared (look at ps unions going into talks and coming away with absolutely nothing) that they dont know which way to turn.
Armaggedon bekons when FF ressurect themselves, as they will at the merest sniff of an upturn, and their loyal sheep (they havent gone away you know) rally to their cause.

Nodin

unit 1 wrote: »

So Mr Ganley bane of Lisbon 1 has been quite since Lisbon 2.
Q. What's the opinion out there, would he be a runner for a new party, to tap into the "anger" out there, or would it be strangled at birth by our encumbents ie FF FG ect.

I think that all the strangling would be done by one Mr Ganley. He certainly would unite the fringe elements, I suppose, but that again would be more rope to strangle themselves with, going on his last outing.

L.Jenkins

Personally thinking about it, I would be in agreement with a new party which would hold a public forum to consider the opinion of pissed off people of Ireland, before formulating policy. It's about time someone took to bullying Government parties into explaining the current mess we are instead of explaining it away.

Im of the opinion of voting for Independants myself as I may agress with some policy, but would rather not be affiliated with any political party.

LeBash

Well, if has failed twice to convince the people and on both occassions thrown the dummy out of the pram and quit,..................then of course Declan Ganley is the man for the job.

Hotblack Desiato

djhunter30 wrote: »

Personally thinking about it, I would be in agreement with a new party which would hold a public forum to consider the opinion of pissed off people of Ireland, before formulating policy.

That's just a recipe for populism, which is exactly what got us into the current mess.

super_furry

Declan Ganley? The people have already spoken on this political non-entity, he is entirely irrelevant to Irish politics, no matter how much money he wants to throw around pretending otherwise.

Annasopra

unit 1 wrote: »

So Mr Ganley bane of Lisbon 1 has been quite since Lisbon 2.
Q. What's the opinion out there, would he be a runner for a new party, to tap into the "anger" out there, or would it be strangled at birth by our encumbents ie FF FG ect.

He tried to "save" Europe and look how that worked

deadhead13

Ganley, on his defeat in the European elections - "I will not be involved in the second Lisbon campaign....I sought a democratic mandate and I didn't get one, and that is how democracy works. And as I said I can take no for an answer."

Apparently he can't, in fact, take no for an answer.

Coillte_Bhoy

deadhead13 wrote: »

Ganley, on his defeat in the European elections - "I will not be involved in the second Lisbon campaign....I sought a democratic mandate and I didn't get one, and that is how democracy works. And as I said I can take no for an answer."

Apparently he can't, in fact, take no for an answer.

No different to the Irish political establishment then is he?

deadhead13

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

No different to the Irish political establishment then is he?

In the case of the Lisbon treaty I have to admit, you have a point.

Coillte_Bhoy

deadhead13 wrote: »

In the case of the Lisbon treaty I have to admit, you have a point.

ahem and Maastricht

Zynks

Most certainly NOT!

Scofflaw

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

ahem and Maastricht

Nice, I think, not Maastricht...

cordially,
Scofflaw

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Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

No different to the Irish political establishment then is he?

The "Irish political establishment" sought and were given a democratic mandate by the people. Mr. Ganley, on the other hand, sought and was denied a democratic mandate by the people. That is a rather fundamental difference between them.

MavisDavis

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