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Vatican preacher: Uproar at Church over abuse akin to persecution of the Jews

  • 02-04-2010 8:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭


    So...yeah. Wow.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/world/europe/03church.html
    A senior Vatican priest speaking at a Good Friday service compared the uproar over sexual abuse scandals in the Catholic Church — which have included reports about Pope Benedict XVI’s oversight role in two cases — to the persecution of the Jews, sharply raising the volume in the Vatican’s counterattack.

    The remarks, on the day Christians mark the crucifixion, underscored how much the Catholic Church has felt under attack from recent news reports and criticism over how it has handled charges of child molestation against priests in the past, and sought to focus attention on the church as the central victim.

    In recent weeks, Vatican officials and many bishops have angrily denounced news reports that Benedict failed to act strongly enough against pedophile priests, once as archbishop of Munich and Freising in 1980 and once as a leader of a powerful Vatican congregation in the 1990s.

    Benedict sat looking downward when the Rev. Raniero Cantalamessa, who holds the office of preacher of the papal household, delivered his remarks in the traditional prayer service in St. Peter’s Basilica. Wearing the brown cassock of a Franciscan, Father Cantalamessa took note that Easter and Passover were falling during the same week this year, saying he was led to think of the Jews. “They know from experience what it means to be victims of collective violence and also because of this they are quick to recognize the recurring symptoms,” he said.

    The Vatican though is quick to try and distance itself from these comments:
    The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi stressed that Father Cantalamessa’s sermon represented his own private thoughts and was not “an official statement” from the Vatican.

    He said it was incorrect to interpret the remarks as comparing recent criticism of the Catholic Church to anti-Semitism, but should instead be read as a sign of “solidarity” by Father Cantalamessa’s Jewish friend.

    Father Lombardi said that he personally did not think that criticism of the church could be compared to anti-Semitism.

    “I don’t think it’s an appropriate comparison,” he said. “That’s why the letter should be read as a letter of solidarity by a Jew.”

    “It is not meant as an attack on the Jewish world, anything but,” Father Lombardi added. He said that Benedict had no role in the sermon.

    Think this kind of stuff will only get worse as scandals inch closer to Ratzinger.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    Well if they start killing people...I'll make sure they know I'm an atheist...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭Making It Bad


    Bunch of cúnts.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    Im sick of these stupid threads. I dont care for religion at all. You can shove it and all its bullcrap up yer hole as far as I care.

    [not directly at the OP but all these threads]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    looks like the Ratz is on a sinking ship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭Linus67


    I find it funny that the senior Vatican priest announced this on Good Friday; the day when the Jews killed Jesus.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Linus67 wrote: »
    I find it funny that the senior Vatican priest announced this on Good Friday; the day when the Jews killed Jesus.

    alledgedly! can you kill a fictional character?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭Slugs


    Well didn't Voldemort kill Harry? Oh, and funnily enough he rose from the dead too.... I think I see a trend here....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    alledgedly! can you kill a fictional character?
    Dumbledore?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    Vatican is the real victim in this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    The Romans killed Jesus no?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Slugs wrote: »
    Well didn't Voldemort kill Harry? Oh, and funnily enough he rose from the dead too.... I think I see a trend here....
    Crap you got in there before me, fair play.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Linus67 wrote: »
    I find it funny that the senior Vatican priest announced this on Good Friday; the day when the Jews killed Jesus.

    But wasn't Jesus a Jew himself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭Slugs


    Crap you got in there before me, fair play.
    ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    efb wrote: »
    The Romans killed Jesus no?
    Pontius Pilate asked the crowd in front of him, "Who do you want saved... Jesus or Barabbas?" or words to that effect...
    The jews chosed Barabbas, a supposed criminal to save. Thus condemning Jesus to death so the yarn goes.
    See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barabbas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    so anyway, which do you prefer, potato wedges or chips?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    isn't it daddy or chips?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    isn't it daddy or chips?

    as the ad goes, true, but this is AH and if you let your guard down to that kind of abuse then you're screwed.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    FearDark wrote: »
    Im sick of these stupid threads. I dont care for religion at all. You can shove it and all its bullcrap up yer hole as far as I care.

    [not directly at the OP but all these threads]
    You don't have to read them. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Hmmm. I wonder if the preacher had just seen the latest South Park episode perhaps ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭lizardfudge


    alledgedly! can you kill a fictional character?

    Spoiler tags please! Not all of us have finished reading The New Testament yet!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭bigeasyeah


    Not so fast, Kyle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Spoiler tags please! Not all of us have finished reading The New Testament yet!

    It turns out to be a dream all along. Bobby was just in the shower.


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