Overseeding

Ashill5

I'm hope to reseed about 10 acres this spring! Was thinking of overseeding, to keep the costs down and to spare the back from picking stones.Have any of you tried it and was it successful ? :rolleyes:

djmc

What is overseeding?

bealaha

are u talkin about undersowing with wheat or oats

bbam

A few years ago we did this...
We had fields sprayed with roundup and my dad died suddenly and we're were a bit in lymbo...
The larger field had been eat right down to nothing in preperation and a smaller one wasn't..
They were sowed by a friend with a "wag tale" type spreader at the "usual rate", then 10-10-20 applied and then rolled..

Both fields covered in well but no doubt the field thich had the least covering did the best and we have taken two cuts of round bales from it for the last to years..

Our topsoil here is shallow, 4-6 inches on average... About 20 years ago we went the whole hog on 15 acres, ploughing and so on..... We were killed picking stones....

Ashill5

Thanks bbam,
I think i will chance it!

Sam Kade

djmc wrote: »

What is overseeding?

He means surface seeding.

whelan1

i did 2 fields last september , one was a sacrifice paddock for calving and the other was a 20 acre field the paddock did brilliant and the 20 acre field did crap :mad: i knitted the 2 fields , both had gotten round up , i now have to decide what to do with the second field , i will have to spray it and maybe give it a light coating of grass seed

Muckit

whelan1 wrote: »

i did 2 fields last september , one was a sacrifice paddock for calving and the other was a 20 acre field the paddock did brilliant and the 20 acre field did crap :mad: i knitted the 2 fields , both had gotten round up , i now have to decide what to do with the second field , i will have to spray it and maybe give it a light coating of grass seed

Did you get around to reseeding that field? How did it turn out? When you say 'knit', did you get in a contractor with one of those fancy new machines for overseeding?

Did you graze off or top after the roundup had done it's job?

whelan1

sprayed the 20 acre field in march and waited 12 days and spread 100 units of n - for 1st cut- came up brill ... the calving paddock is ok but there are a load of ragworth after appearing in one half of it - i pulled every ragworth by hand last year after it was sprayed off, so quite annoyed at that- they look like a funny type of ragworth iykwim, ye it was a fancy machine that the fella used

glanman

Looking a testing a few acres of this during the week with local contractor. Cut for silage on Thursday so going to try overseeed with grass and clover. In organic conversion so sprays, fertilizer off. Any advice for me and the contractor? Thinking disc and sow, roll after?

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117941066#Comment_117941066

If you disc it then its not overseeding that's reseeding

glanman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117943752#Comment_117943752

Disced it yesterday and can see what you mean. Sowing tomorrow and rolling it after. will be an interesting experiment anyway...

How would one go about overseeding, is it light harrow broadcast seeds and roll?

Reggie.

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Yeah that's the theory

funkey_monkey

Is the success rate similar for overseeding and reseeding - or would reseeding be noticeably more successful? We were thinking of renting a few fields out to a potato grower and they would do the work and reseed as part of the agreement. Field is very poor now and has lots of redshank. Has been done with a shakerator - flat land so prone to holding water in wet spells.

Don't really know what to do with it. At least will be putting in a ryegrass clover mix, but might put in some additional varieties depending on what merchant thinks would suit the ground.

k mac

Is it not a bit late reseeding with the weather getting cold and alot of rain promised... after getting some digger work done putting in shores and i was going to get a half acre bag of seed to throw on the disturbed soil but was thinking it wouldn't take.

funkey_monkey

We'll not be doing anything until next year here.

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117954293#Comment_117954293

Its all about the preparation really

crackcrack30

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I don't think I'd let potatoes in.... fair drain on soil nutrients I'd imagine .. Could end up worse off

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117954746#Comment_117954746

Yes, however in you case I throw out the half bag. You can always go again in the spring. However for reseeding and especially overseeing it is now too late. In the case of overseeing I would want it done by September 1st ideally. Remember with overseeing new grass has to compete with existing sward. It would be impossible to graze it bare from now on and keep it bare for seedling to get a hold. As well sward may/ will get too far ahead with in the spring before new grass is strong enough to stay growing with it

endainoz

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The success rate of a full reseed would be more successful you'd imagine. But people are more concerned about tilling ground now more than ever before. Things get even more complicated when you factor in organics with no spraying or fert allowed. I've have some decent success with broadcasting clover into silage swards. One or two runs of the chain harrow will definitely help and to have the ground as bare possible will help things too. Then broadcast with a wagtail spreader and roll after.

It's the care taken after that seems to be a vital part that people tend to forget though. Having cattle back on the ground to stall the regrowth of the older grasses so as to give the new grasses a chance to establish is a vital part that many seem to forget. You have the added help of animals pushing down the seed aswell.