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Cryptosporidium. HELP

  • 01-04-2010 4:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭


    Cryptosporidium.
    >


    e. There is a product that
    > claims to help against Crypto, this is called Halocur and is an oral
    > drench
    ,has anyone used this does it work or any other suggestions


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    yes its the best ever . i give 3 squirts per calf per day for the first 3 days . i also do the cows with rotavec at drying off and calves get vecoxan at 1 week and 3 weeks , halocur is a very good and i notice the difference if a calf doesnt get it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭djmc


    Do not put any new calves near sick ones find a house some place else and make pen with pallets or gates.
    Put any healty calves out in sheltered feild and feed milk outside
    Empty house when sick calves are better or dead and wash and disinfect before useing again.
    This might seem like a bit of work but it is easier than messing with sick calves
    cryptospordium is deadly and can kill every calf born unless action is taken
    I had it bad a few years ago:(
    Good luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    oocide disenfectant works the best


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 zoostorm


    One of my suppliers is having serious problerms with calves, a brown scour and then they go downhill and very tired and panting, he's disinfected everywhere, drenched and dosed all the calves. Samples of blood and scour went to lab and were inconclusive. I'd love to know what advice anyone has. He's in bad nick, he lost 30,000 on spuds to frost this winter and I'd say he hasn't a rex to his name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    zoostorm wrote: »
    One of my suppliers is having serious problerms with calves, a brown scour and then they go downhill and very tired and panting, he's disinfected everywhere, drenched and dosed all the calves. Samples of blood and scour went to lab and were inconclusive. I'd love to know what advice anyone has. He's in bad nick, he lost 30,000 on spuds to frost this winter and I'd say he hasn't a rex to his name.
    Yogurt milk will prevent it and should cure it if they aren't too far gone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭djmc


    zoostorm wrote: »
    One of my suppliers is having serious problerms with calves, a brown scour and then they go downhill and very tired and panting, he's disinfected everywhere, drenched and dosed all the calves. Samples of blood and scour went to lab and were inconclusive. I'd love to know what advice anyone has. He's in bad nick, he lost 30,000 on spuds to frost this winter and I'd say he hasn't a rex to his name.

    The best advice I can give is to put calves outdoars and feed with nipple feeder then get strong drugs from vet micotil nuflor batril max etc. and bimastat and lectade
    Sick calves will pass it to healty calves very fast inside in this hot weather


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭poor farmer


    zoostorm wrote: »
    One of my suppliers is having serious problerms with calves, a brown scour and then they go downhill and very tired and panting, he's disinfected everywhere, drenched and dosed all the calves. Samples of blood and scour went to lab and were inconclusive. I'd love to know what advice anyone has. He's in bad nick, he lost 30,000 on spuds to frost this winter and I'd say he hasn't a rex to his name.

    in a lot of theese cases of bad scours i would suspect that it is coming from the mothers BVD .
    since i started vaccinating a few years ago calf health has improved dramatically


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    Scour In Calves,

    Up to this year, I have no herd health problems except for this brown watery scour that cattle of any age, calves, yearlings & cows get suddenly. The Vet sent dung samples of calf to lab testing for Salmonella but results were inconclusive. In all cases Sulphur Power (yellow packets-cant think of Brand) cleared it up in matter of days.

    Then this year, disaster a lot of cows that I thought were in calf either slipped back a couple of months or didnt go in calve.

    Any ideas, I thinking BVD? I was thinking of testing for this in this years herd test in a few months.

    I don't vaccinate for anything!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    pakalasa wrote: »
    Scour In Calves,

    Up to this year, I have no herd health problems except for this brown watery scour that cattle of any age, calves, yearlings & cows get suddenly. The Vet sent dung samples of calf to lab testing for Salmonella but results were inconclusive. In all cases Sulphur Power (yellow packets-cant think of Brand) cleared it up in matter of days.

    Then this year, disaster a lot of cows that I thought were in calf either slipped back a couple of months or didnt go in calve.

    Any ideas, I thinking BVD? I was thinking of testing for this in this years herd test in a few months.

    I don't vaccinate for anything!

    would it be some type of mineral deficiency I wonder, strange also that older cattle are getting that scour, just last wek I started giving the cows easi trace, you put little tablets into water trough and its supposed to sort them out for trace elements, dont know how good it is now but cows seem slow to come bulling so figured it might be no harm and its easy to apply


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    lepto could be the cows not going in calf , get them blood tested for lepto/bvd / johnes asap


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    Ya, thanks guys.
    I'll have to get the Vet on it alright. It was a shock to find cows I thought were in calf, bulling. I normally watch them very close for repeats so I was convinced they were in calf.
    As I said, everthing fine apart from this, not even a sick calf, nothing to indicate anything was wrong.I remember the Vet saying, "I'm never out here except for that scour".

    (Sorry OP for hijacking your thread. I thought it might be related)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 zoostorm


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Yogurt milk will prevent it and should cure it if they aren't too far gone.


    was out with him today, he's using pure yogurt, and, touch wood, they are getting better, none of the anti scour meds worked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    zoostorm wrote: »
    was out with him today, he's using pure yogurt, and, touch wood, they are getting better, none of the anti scour meds worked.
    I tried Halocur one year when my calves got crypto it didn't prevent the newborn calves from getting it. I also tried different treatments for other scours even prevention by vaccinating the cows after a few years they didn't work. Yogurt was the only way I managed to prevent and cure calf scour. I remember one year I spent £500 on different scour treatments that didn't work, however the second or third year that I was using yogurt milk a few calves got badly scoured. I cured it by giving them 3 feeds of lectade/day for 2 days while still giving them yogurt in two separate feeds. I often tried curing calves with lectade while they were on normal milk with little success. The last few years I was milking cows I didn't vaccinate them to prevent calf scour as the yogurt milk worked so well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    explain to me how you make up the yoghurt milk please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    whelan1 wrote: »
    explain to me how you make up the yoghurt milk please
    You start with a half gallon of milk and add natural yogurt to it, I used two bottles of actimal. Put the milk in the hotpress or some other warm place and leave it for 24 hours. I used to store milk for calves in dustbins just add the half gallon of yogurt to the milk for the calves while it is still warm after milking then stir it well. Leave it until next milking stir and feed to calves. Leave a gallon of yogurt in the drum to keep the culture going then add warm milk for next feeding. You can never add milk treated with antibiotics to the yogurt as it will kill the culture and the milk will go sour.
    The yogurt will be fairly thick when you feed it I used teat feeders and the calves had no trouble drinking it, in fact they would go mad for it. I've seen farms with bigger herds that use a small bulk tank for storing yogurt milk and they use a pump to feed the milk out. Theres no need to heat it as they will drink it cold, most of the time the yogurt will be slightly warm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    so high cell count cows milk would be ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    whelan1 wrote: »
    so high cell count cows milk would be ok
    Yes it would as long as the cow isn't within the withdrawal period after using antibiotics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭milkprofit


    put calves in house not used for 2 years and had been power housed and disenfected no better last cv. still in field so far no problem will try yogurt can you tell me the procedure


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    put calves in house not used for 2 years and had been power housed and disenfected no better last cv. still in field so far no problem will try yogurt can you tell me the procedure
    see top of this page


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