Dan Schneider - love or loath him?

Richard Dower

Washington Post proclaims him "king of tweens"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/25/AR2009082503206.html

I recently watched the premiere of "Victorious"

http://www.nick.com/shows/victorious/

And while alot of it was dross for the first half the second had some funny moments, notable was a sequence where the kids must improv to each letter of the alphabet, i thought Schneider wrote this part quite well.

I'm not a fan of his work "Drake and Josh" "ICarly", but i really did like his series What I Like About You, i think it was his best work.

Or is Schneider the devil?

Richard Dower

Oh and Victoria Justice?....lol, sounds like she belongs in some superhero movie :-)

Elmo

Is he your alter ego?

What I Like About You is less of a Tweeny series.

Elmo

Used to love that show.

phasers

I can't stand him! All his Zoey 101/ icarly crap is complete toss.
And who can forget the Amanda show? That show was so awful it is permanently engrained on my mind.

Kenan and Kel was comedy gold though, his work is definitely getting worse as he gets older

ironictoaster

He was on fire in the 90s, but now he makes some awful crap. Then again, 90s kids were way different from today kids.

Elmo

creggy wrote: »

He was on fire in the 90s, but now he makes some awful crap. Then again, 90s kids were way different from today kids.

I don't know. Keenan and Kel = Josh and Drake. Fat guy and slim guy and in reality that is because of his friend from Head of the Class who was the manager of the shop in Keenan and Kel.

SirLemonhead

Richard Dower wrote: »

I'm not a fan of his work "Drake and Josh" "ICarly"

They're for kids why WOULD you be a fan?

Elmo

SirLemonhead wrote: »

They're for kids why WOULD you be a fan?

If a TV show is good, a TV show is good, no matter who you aim it at. There are plenty of Kids TVs that I have no problem admitting that I watch. Icarly and Drake and Josh aren't 2 of them.

phasers

Elmo wrote: »

I don't know. Keenan and Kel = Josh and Drake. Fat guy and slim guy and in reality that is because of his friend from Head of the Class who was the manager of the shop in Keenan and Kel.

So because there's a fat guy and a skinny guy then it's exactly the same show? What about when Josh loses all the weight (on a side note I lold at that because suddenly Josh was the hot one but they couldn't write it like that so it looked even stupider than usual)

It's also about two males, you forgot to mention that glaring similarity :rolleyes:

Clearly D&J is just repackaged K&K!

Elmo

phasers wrote: »

Clearly D&J is just repackaged K&K!

Clearly. But while I mention the most obvious similarities there are other ones.

The only really difference between each show is their race, and clearly that isn't much of a difference.

120_Minutes

SirLemonhead wrote: »

They're for kids why WOULD you be a fan?

Richard Dower: he touches the child in all of us.

Dublindude69

SirLemonhead wrote: »

They're for kids why WOULD you be a fan?

I love ICarly and Drake And Josh and I am no kid. Those shows are for everyone, adults can enjoy them just as much as kids so come off your high horse.
I have a **** ton of ICarly and Drake And Josh DVDs. Kenan and Kels sucked big floppy donkey dicks, hated that.

Diabhal Beag

Drake and Josh is one of the worst shows ever. The repetitive canned laughter (He uses the same canned laughter in all the fcuking Nick shows).
Haven't ever laughed at it.

Kenan and Kel was great though.

His heart must not be in his work anymore.

SirLemonhead

Dublindude69 wrote: »

I love ICarly and Drake And Josh and I am no kid. Those shows are for everyone, adults can enjoy them just as much as kids so come off your high horse.
I have a **** ton of ICarly and Drake And Josh DVDs. Kenan and Kels sucked big floppy donkey dicks, hated that.

Just going to disregard your post as being sarcasm, like you do with your anti-Tallon rants :pac:

grimm2005

Dublindude69 wrote: »

Those shows are for everyone, adults can enjoy them just as much as kids so come off your high horse.

I dunno, I saw a bit of ICarley and it seemed very much aimed at purely children/"tweens". Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a lot of the old TV shows I used to watch as a kid (kenan and kel, earthworm jim) but it's more for the nostalgia than anything else. For something that is aimed at kids and adults alike and does a fantastic job at it, just look at anything Pixar has made

Dublindude69

SirLemonhead wrote: »

Just going to disregard your post as being sarcasm, like you do with your anti-Tallon rants :pac:

Anti Tallon :mad: How dare you, I'm pro Tallonted. His wisdom gets me through CoDMW2, jerk.

Come on, ICarly is funny. It's got good writing and decent characters. Although I do wish they murdered Fred violently when he came on, I hate Fred.

Richard Dower

120_Minutes wrote: »

Richard Dower: he touches the child in all of us.

Is that a bad thing?

Elmo

Richard Dower wrote: »

Is that a bad thing?

No. It could happen a Bishop :eek: