2 Days of protest

Bluloa

Joe Higgins is organising a protest outside the bank of FF this lunchtime.

Easter Sunday, 4 April 2010, 1916 Commemoration at GPO


get to the GPO at least an hour before the main march, and settle in

This would have a number of advantages

1. Get there before the politicals do, and if the Gardai try to move you before they set up the barriers, you can explain to them that you are on a peaceful protest and tell them that part of it will be in protest against public service i.e. their own, pay cuts.. this will garner sympathy from them, and may ensure you don't get a smack of a baton later on should things turn ugly

2. If you are moved behind the barriers, you will still be in the front row, to be able to make the protest as visible as possible

3. Any placards which you hold, being at the front row, will get maximum media exposure from any reporting of the protest. Personally, plenty of banners saying "Traitors to the men of 1916" would look the best at this particular ceremony

4. By starting to assemble a large crowd an hour before the event, you are more likely to gain passing attention from other people, who may join in the protest and swell the numbers

5. Be prepared to make yourself heard during the protest. I would respectfully allow the President to make whatever speech she will make. I would respect the reading of the Proclamation. I would respect the playing of the last post. But, the second a FF minister or the Taoiseach attempts to hijack the event, then a number of options arise including booing, slow handclap, whistles and pots and pans etc.. but do it peacefully

Really, at some stage, we have to begin to fight back. Symbolically, the 1916 Commemoration would be one of the best times you could do so.

Get on Facebook, Twitter, the Pin, Boards, viral email, announce it to the media organisations, the Opposition political parties, everywhere...

Uriel.

What exactly are you protesting about? The Easter parade?

Fight back against what?

murphaph

What is this supposed to achieve? To convince the government that a few crackpots want them to borrow even more than we have to to bail out the banks to pay the already overpaid civil service?

:rolleyes:

We created this mess, not just FF. There were 3 chances to remove FF PEACEFULLY over the period of the fake boom. We didn't take those chances despite MANY warnings from MANY economists and from Germany's finance minister that we were building an economy on sand.

The electorate have to take responsibility for the government they repeatedly elect.

Uriel.

murphaph wrote: »

What is this supposed to achieve? To convince the government that a few crackpots want them to borrow even more than we have to to bail out the banks to pay the already overpaid civil service?

:rolleyes:

We created this mess, not just FF. There were 3 chances to remove FF PEACEFULLY over the period of the fake boom. We didn't take those chances despite MANY warnings from MANY economists and from Germany's finance minister that we were building an economy on sand.

The electorate have to take responsibility for the government they repeatedly elect.

Is that what the "protest" is about though? The OP says part of the protest is about PS pay.

What's the rest about?

Well whatever it's about .. best of luck to those that show up in the cold and rain to achieve absolutely nothing...

Bluloa

The fight back is about,

The corrupt FF government bailing out banks at the expense of the Irish people.

The corruption of the FF government.

Anglo Irish should be closed down and CAB go after all Directors with outstanding loans.

Demand an immediate election to elect a government with a mandate.

To stop our country sinking further into a debt abyss whilst the elites of Ireland continue to enjoy wealth.

To give a clear and firm message to Cowen and Lenihan.

OMD

Bluloa wrote: »

The fight back is about,

The corrupt FF government bailing out banks at the expense of the Irish people.

The corruption of the FF government.

Demand an immediate election to elect a government with a mandate.


To give a clear and firm message to Cowen and Lenihan.

So basically you want an election

Bluloa wrote: »

Anglo Irish should be closed down and CAB go after all Directors with outstanding loans.

and the closure of Anglo Irish.

Bluloa wrote: »

To stop our country sinking further into a debt abyss whilst the elites of Ireland continue to enjoy wealth.

On top of that you either want massive tax rises and/or massive cuts in public sector pay and social welfare.

jmayo

I might not agree with restoring public sector pay, primarily because we can't bloody afford it, but I do agree with protesting everytime one of those f***ing incompetents appears somewhere public to speak.

I think we have reached a stage where they no longer represent the people of this country at all.
In fact they only ever represented 40 odd percent of those that voted so that was never a majority of the people in the first place.

Of course we can do nothing, wait for the next election whenever that may be or we can make that day come a little sooner.
At least then we might get a government that might not be in bed with every banker and developer in the country, in Cape Cod or Switzerland. :rolleyes:

If the Icelanders had our attitude they would still have their inept government that oversaw the bankrupting of their country.
As it is we look like lemmings being led over the cliff by the pied piper cowen.

murphaph

Bluloa wrote: »

The corrupt FF government bailing out banks at the expense of the Irish people.

The "Irish people" weren't complaining when their shoddily built semi-D was "worth" a cool half mil. The Irish people fanned the flames of the property madness by buying into the whole con, despite plenty of warnings that we were headed for trouble.

Bluloa wrote: »

The corruption of the FF government.

The same FF party who have been elected 3 times now? We've known FF are corrupt for decades FFS. The Irish people are just too chronically stupid to vote for someone else, when a gombeen politician "gets them something into the county".

Bluloa wrote: »

Anglo Irish should be closed down and CAB go after all Directors with outstanding loans.
The Gardai are investigating Anglo and have already arrested 2 directors.

Anglo itself is pursuing the loans under new management.

Bluloa wrote: »

Demand an immediate election to elect a government with a mandate.

They have a lawful mandate cos WE elected them (for the 3rd time in a row)

Bluloa wrote: »

To stop our country sinking further into a debt abyss whilst the elites of Ireland continue to enjoy wealth.

It's too late to prevent our country slipping into an abyss of debt. We made that particular bed over the past 10 years of excess.

You want to pretend that the past 10 years didn't happen basically, but it did, and now we're all screwed.

Tail Wagger

Bluloa wrote: »

Joe Higgins is organising a protest outside the bank of FF this lunchtime.

Easter Sunday, 4 April 2010, 1916 Commemoration at GPO


get to the GPO at least an hour before the main march, and settle in

This would have a number of advantages

1. Get there before the politicals do, and if the Gardai try to move you before they set up the barriers, you can explain to them that you are on a peaceful protest and tell them that part of it will be in protest against public service i.e. their own, pay cuts.. this will garner sympathy from them, and may ensure you don't get a smack of a baton later on should things turn ugly

2. If you are moved behind the barriers, you will still be in the front row, to be able to make the protest as visible as possible

3. Any placards which you hold, being at the front row, will get maximum media exposure from any reporting of the protest. Personally, plenty of banners saying "Traitors to the men of 1916" would look the best at this particular ceremony

4. By starting to assemble a large crowd an hour before the event, you are more likely to gain passing attention from other people, who may join in the protest and swell the numbers

5. Be prepared to make yourself heard during the protest. I would respectfully allow the President to make whatever speech she will make. I would respect the reading of the Proclamation. I would respect the playing of the last post. But, the second a FF minister or the Taoiseach attempts to hijack the event, then a number of options arise including booing, slow handclap, whistles and pots and pans etc.. but do it peacefully

Really, at some stage, we have to begin to fight back. Symbolically, the 1916 Commemoration would be one of the best times you could do so.

Get on Facebook, Twitter, the Pin, Boards, viral email, announce it to the media organisations, the Opposition political parties, everywhere...

Why would you want to upset a tribute to our men who fell in 1916?

Will the pot & pan shop be open on the day?

I'm sure the Head shop will be open, and the can shop also,

So we can bang our empty beer cans and shout and roar our Heads off,

What a cheap trick, the only day of the year to pay tribute to our fallen
heroes, and you come up with a stunt like this. I suppose you'll be across the other side of the road watching all the idiots you hope to recruit for this stunt

I think you should hold your head in shame for that cheap stunt, Don't you?

Uriel.

Bluloa wrote: »

The fight back is about,

The corrupt FF government bailing out banks at the expense of the Irish people.

The corruption of the FF government.

Anglo Irish should be closed down and CAB go after all Directors with outstanding loans.

Demand an immediate election to elect a government with a mandate.

To stop our country sinking further into a debt abyss whilst the elites of Ireland continue to enjoy wealth.

To give a clear and firm message to Cowen and Lenihan.

You do realise there have been myriad protests in the past two years about many issues. None have been a success (with the exception of the OAPs) - why do you think this protest will achieve anything?

Bluloa

Would the men of 1916 sit at home today typing away at their Keyboard moaning and groaning?

Would they agree with the way FF handle this country?

Did they just except the current government of the country?

It is in the Spirt of those men of 1916 that we will take back the country they believed in from the powers that want to destroy us.

Anglo Bank offers nothing to the average Irish man, but offers plenty to the richest people in Ireland.

We want to stop the money going to the richest people in Ireland that is being stolen from the poorest.

Do nothing, stay at home or at work and enjoy the money being stolen from your pocket to keep Bertie Ahern in his life style.

Or you can do something and start to fight back.

danman

5. Be prepared to make yourself heard during the protest. I would respectfully allow the President to make whatever speech she will make. I would respect the reading of the Proclamation. I would respect the playing of the last post. But, the second a FF minister or the Taoiseach attempts to hijack the event, then a number of options arise including booing, slow handclap, whistles and pots and pans etc.. but do it peacefully

How is the Taoiseach of our democraticly elected government, "hijacking" the commoration of the event that founded our state?

Who do you think should be speaking?

Get a grip of yourself, maybe you want to start an armed struggle in the south now, is that it.
We're a democracy. If you don't like our system, start a political party, gain support, get elected in a majority, and change the system.

Otherwise, leave us to our democracy.

Uriel.

Bluloa wrote: »

Would the men of 1916 sit at home today typing away at their Keyboard moaning and groaning?

Would they agree with the way FF handle this country?

Did they just except the current government of the country?

It is in the Spirt of those men of 1916 that we will take back the country they believed in from the powers that want to destroy us.

Anglo Bank offers nothing to the average Irish man, but offers plenty to the richest people in Ireland.

We want to stop the money going to the richest people in Ireland that is being stolen from the poorest.

Do nothing, stay at home or at work and enjoy the money being stolen from your pocket to keep Bertie Ahern in his life style.

Or you can do something and start to fight back.

I am sorry but you lose the tiny inkling of credability u *might* have when you make a comparison of the issues of Easter 1916 with those of today.#

Take back the country from who exactly?

The Spirit of 1916 was to create a state and a government for the people and by the people.

We have our freedom now and the freedom to choose our Government which we have so done. What you are proposing is a kick in the face to what was achieved between 1916 and 1932.

Bluloa

danman wrote: »

How is the Taoiseach of our democraticly elected government, "hijacking" the commoration of the event that founded our state?

Who do you think should be speaking?

Get a grip of yourself, maybe you want to start an armed struggle in the south now, is that it.
We're a democracy. If you don't like our system, start a political party, gain support, get elected in a majority, and change the system.

Otherwise, leave us to our democracy.

Is the the advice you would have given to the men of 1916?

Grow a pair my friend.

Uriel.

Bluloa wrote: »

Is the the advice you would have given to the men of 1916?

Grow a pair my friend.

Are you suggesting an armed resistance / rebellion against the current Government?

Bluloa

Uriel. wrote: »

I am sorry but you lose the tiny inkling of credability u *might* have when you make a comparison of the issues of Easter 1916 with those of today.#

Take back the country from who exactly?

The Spirit of 1916 was to create a state and a government for the people and by the people.

We have our freedom now and the freedom to choose our Government which we have so done. What you are proposing is a kick in the face to what was achieved between 1916 and 1932.

Fine sit at home whilst brave Irish men and women fight for your future.

You have a choice. You can either except what FF are doing or you can fight back.

You clearly are enjoying the FF government so carry on. Others are prepared to fight for the cause and we know them men of 1916 would be on our side and would turn in their grave for cowards like you.

Uriel.

You speak of brave men and women who "fight" for our future.
You suggest those who don't protest are cowards.

What is brave about standing on a street with a cardboard cutout?

Please don't compare what you are "trying" to do with what the people of 1916 did. A completely different ball game.

as for the

You have a choice. You can either except what FF are doing or you can fight back.

You clearly are enjoying the FF government so carry on

****e, yeah I will "fight" back at the next election - and I will do that in the spirit and thanksgiving that I have the right to do that because of the people of 1916 onwards.

Ps. they'd on;y turn in their graves because of what you are suggesting.

Poccington

Whatever you protesting lot do, just stay off the road.

The Easter Rising Commemoration is something I hold very dear to me and is an event I am honoured to be taking part in.

Get in my way and I will be sure to march right over you.

hinault

Bluloa wrote: »

Joe Higgins is organising a protest outside the bank of FF this lunchtime.

Easter Sunday, 4 April 2010, 1916 Commemoration at GPO


get to the GPO at least an hour before the main march, and settle in

This would have a number of advantages

1. Get there before the politicals do, and if the Gardai try to move you before they set up the barriers, you can explain to them that you are on a peaceful protest and tell them that part of it will be in protest against public service i.e. their own, pay cuts.. this will garner sympathy from them, and may ensure you don't get a smack of a baton later on should things turn ugly

2. If you are moved behind the barriers, you will still be in the front row, to be able to make the protest as visible as possible

3. Any placards which you hold, being at the front row, will get maximum media exposure from any reporting of the protest. Personally, plenty of banners saying "Traitors to the men of 1916" would look the best at this particular ceremony

4. By starting to assemble a large crowd an hour before the event, you are more likely to gain passing attention from other people, who may join in the protest and swell the numbers

5. Be prepared to make yourself heard during the protest. I would respectfully allow the President to make whatever speech she will make. I would respect the reading of the Proclamation. I would respect the playing of the last post. But, the second a FF minister or the Taoiseach attempts to hijack the event, then a number of options arise including booing, slow handclap, whistles and pots and pans etc.. but do it peacefully

Really, at some stage, we have to begin to fight back. Symbolically, the 1916 Commemoration would be one of the best times you could do so.

Get on Facebook, Twitter, the Pin, Boards, viral email, announce it to the media organisations, the Opposition political parties, everywhere...

LUNCHTIME ?
12.00hrs?
13.00hrs?

Can you be a bit more specific regarding the time when this demonstration will take place?

I would be interested in attending this demonstration.

I want to attend this demonstration.

Thanks.