they think we will be fooled....

corktina

...by opening it a day early....

i mean who would ever believe a press release about a new train service opening that is half an hour slower than the bus , gawd knows how much slower than the car,that is roughly parallelled by a new modern road being constructed which will make it less competitive still, that involves a reversal part way, having deviated off the "crow flies" route to get to the reversing point.

nah, noone would believe that one would they? Mark my words come twelve O'Clock, we'll be told it was all a joke.....(we will , won't we?)

Transportuser09

corktina wrote: »

that involves a reversal part way,

Assuming you are reffering to the Western Rail Corridor, where is this reversal?

corktina

Athenry.....

Transportuser09

Thanks, wasn't aware of that. Though I suppose with railcars its handy enough.

L1011

Well, when they're 2 car, its easy enough. It'll be easier when they decide to run it with a 2750


(they're one car)

FlameoftheWest

Transportuser09 wrote: »

Thanks, wasn't aware of that. Though I suppose with railcars its handy enough.

Again please learn stuff before shooting your mouth off. Listen to people on here. They know their stuff. Going by WestonTrack press releases, I used to think the WRC was the greatest thing since sliced bread before I discovered this board and now I see it for the polished turd it is.

Transportuser09

FlameoftheWest wrote: »

Listen to people on here. They know their stuff. Going by WestonTrack press releases, I used to think the WRC was the greatest thing since sliced bread before I discovered this board and now I see it for the polished turd it is.

What makes you think this board is such a high authority on such matters. I'm sure there are people here who know there stuff, but it would be naive to accept it all as gospel truth.
"I read it on Boards.ie so it must be true"

corktina

the reason you should read carefully threads such as this is because posters on here tend to have open minds and not have ultirior motives. I too used to think "great, open all the old lines" but I was educated by information on here as to how much it costs and what better use that money could be put to.
In my opinion, the 2.4 million loss per annum on this line would have gone a long way to providing taxis for any intending passengers....I wonder does that figure include an allowance for replacement services by road at times of flood?

FlameoftheWest

MYOB wrote: »

Well, when they're 2 car, its easy enough. It'll be easier when they decide to run it with a 2750


(they're one car)

Interesting. I never knew IE had single unit railcars. Where are they, and any photos?

lord lucan

I've never come across a picture of a 2750 running single. Here's a pic of the 2 units running in multiple,2751&2753. They have cabs at each end for single running.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rowan826/4112032600/

Edit: Slightly better pic here, http://www.railsceneireland.fotopic.net/p61722826.html

http://irishrailwaylocomotivesandrollingstock.fotopic.net/p47776176.html

DWCommuter

FlameoftheWest wrote: »

Interesting. I never knew IE had single unit railcars. Where are they, and any photos?

You mean this thing?



I thought they were built for the lightly used lines alright.

FlameoftheWest

Ok thanks for the photos guys. Now this brings me to something I really need (or perhaps not) to get the answer to.

Why the hell do CIE/IE need to spend money on "rail bus solutions" to save the Lim-Nenagh and Lim-Waterford when they have these bloody things on their roster!

Are we all mentally ill, or are IE management basically just no good bastards?

dowlingm

Because there aren't enough 2750s to serve all the low volume routes! IE could do with 6-10 of them (counting maintenance windows and so on).

Also, I suspect the unions will have something to say if they want to use hired drivers on different Ts and Cs on the railbuses.

DWCommuter

FlameoftheWest wrote: »

Ok thanks for the photos guys. Now this brings me to something I really need (or perhaps not) to get the answer to.

Why the hell do CIE/IE need to spend money on "rail bus solutions" to save the Lim-Nenagh and Lim-Waterford when they have these bloody things on their roster!

Are we all mentally ill, or are IE management basically just no good bastards?

Yep they are no good bastards alright.

Think of it this way. They already knew what lines where lightly loaded when they ordered what enthusiasts call "bubble cars" (Someone explain that please) My only recollection was that they were to service the Manulla - Ballina and Ballybrophy - Limerick routes. (Did they ever?) But its further evidence that IE had feck all interest in the lightly loaded lines to begin with because this talk of railbuses is just an attempt to further load certain routes with investment costs which will be offset against poor passenger numbers and revenue, which is a direct result of IEs total and absolute failure to do anything meaningful with these lines in the first place.

IE are worse than no good bastards. They are scheming **** that placate enthusiasts with hair brained solutions. (Just look at the IRN involvement with the Nenagh service) Now that RUI is as effective as a fart in a breeze and so up its own hole, IE can ride roughshod around the place with no alternative source to put it firmly in its place. At a time when its really needed a strong counter argument to IE decisions is non existant.

FlameoftheWest

DWCommuter wrote: »

Manulla - Ballina and Ballybrophy - Limerick routes. (Did they ever?)

Well two years back I was looking at the Ballina Train passing Lough Conn were I was fishing and it looked like something from the 3rd World - oul loco and couple of coaches with steam coming out of them. I pointed to an imaginary trout to distract my German co-fisherman from seeing our world class rail service as it rattled to Manulla...

lord lucan

FlameoftheWest wrote: »

Well two years back I was looking at the Ballina Train passing Lough Conn were I was fishing and it looked like something from the 3rd World - oul loco and couple of coaches with steam coming out of them. I pointed to an imaginary trout to distract my German co-fisherman from seeing our world class rail service as it rattled to Manulla...

A 141 + 2 cravens and a MKI Gen van beats a 2700 in my book any day!

DWCommuter

lord lucan wrote: »

A 141 + 2 cravens and a MKI Gen van beats a 2700 in my book any day!

Stop that. What you like and what should be running the service are two different things.

If you want us to stay friendly towards you, I suggest you "wow horsey" on the trainspotter fantasies. Your cravens and locos were heaps of ****e from a bygone age. I know you know that.:D

lord lucan

DWCommuter wrote: »

Stop that. What you like and what should be running the service are two different things.

If you want us to stay friendly towards you, I suggest you "wow horsey" on the trainspotter fantasies. Your cravens and locos were heaps of ****e from a bygone age. I know you know that.:D

I can be allowed the odd moment of nostalgia surely?:D

DWCommuter

lord lucan wrote: »

I can be allowed the odd moment of nostalgia surely?:D

Okay, just the odd one.;)

Judgement Day

I hope they were Cravens carriages. I love steam!!

Tarquin. Clapham Junction.

DWCommuter

Judgement Day wrote: »

I hope they were Cravens carriages. I love steam!!

Tarquin. Clapham Junction.

Are you not drunk yet?:D

Judgement Day

I wish - child minding - again and nearly out of drink!

C'MON MUNSTER!

DWCommuter

Judgement Day wrote: »

I wish - child minding - again and nearly out of drink!

C'MON MUNSTER!

I'd send some down by fastrack, but you know how it is!:D

Transportuser09

FlameoftheWest wrote: »

Well two years back I was looking at the Ballina Train passing Lough Conn were I was fishing and it looked like something from the 3rd World - oul loco and couple of coaches with steam coming out of them. I pointed to an imaginary trout to distract my German co-fisherman from seeing our world class rail service as it rattled to Manulla...

Thats no longer an issue, the Ballina train was replaced by a railcar over three years ago, late 2006 I think it was. So as far as rolling stock standards are concerned our system compares well enough with many other European systems.

FlameoftheWest

Transportuser09 wrote: »

Thats no longer an issue, the Ballina train was replaced by a railcar over three years ago, late 2006 I think it was. So as far as rolling stock standards are concerned our system compares well enough with many other European systems.

Are you Barry Kenny's lovechild.

Transportuser09

FlameoftheWest wrote: »

Are you Barry Kenny's lovechild.

Ha ha very funny, everyone who doesn't conform to the view that CIÉ is the anti-christ must work for them, is that it?

BT!

Transportuser09 wrote: »

Ha ha very funny, everyone who doesn't conform to the view that CIÉ is the anti-christ must work for them, is that it?

yea same as that, it seems some people get suspicious of any reply that doesn't agree with them

sometimes the paranoid are being followed !

DWCommuter

BT! wrote: »

yea same as that, it seems some people get suspicious of any reply that doesn't agree with them

sometimes the paranoid are being followed !

Lighten up. TU09s post wasn't a disagreement. It was an "update" on that particular line.

As for those who conform to CIE and don't work for them, well your views are just treated as follows;

1. You are a train/bus spotter and idolise CIE employees, especially drivers.
2. You are young enough, not to have been tainted by the ways of CIE for a perlonged period of time.
3. You are old enough to have been a victim of CIE, but fail to realise it because you have a PC view of the world.
4. You are just daft as a brush.