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Lidl Car Care Items On Sale Monday 5th April - Synthetic Oil €5/litre

  • 31-03-2010 2:05am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,074 ✭✭✭✭
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Lidl have card care items next Monday 5th. Their synthetic oil is high spec and great value at €5 per litre.

    5W-40 ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4, API SM/CF
    BMW Longlife-98, MB 229.3, Opel GM-LL-B-025, Porsche, VW-Norm 502 00, 505 00

    Not your ornery onager



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,136 ✭✭✭Moanin


    I've used it for a while on my Golf GTI (No complaints) Once it conforms to VW spec it will do me fine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    €5/litre is cheap indeed, especially given the fact that it's a litre container. Normally full synth sells for upwards of €10/litre if you're buying 4.5 litre bottles, and €14/litre if you're buying litre bottles.

    Pity it's not 505.01 though.:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Would this Synthetic oil suit my SEAT Cordoba 1.4Tdi sport?
    Almost due an oil/filter change :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,686 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Just had a look at my car manual there (1.8Tfsi), 502 00 is approved for normal interval servicing, not longlife. Thats a good price & I think I will buy some. Car just finishing warranty now so I will be doing oil changes myself.

    Edit: looked at link, where did OP find the specs for the oil? THinking again, I will be holding all receipts for service parts & Lidl oil wouldnt be a good selling point regardless of whether it meets the vw spec or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭GTE


    T-Maxx wrote: »
    Pity it's not 505.01 though.:p

    I dont have the engine for that oil but I understand your pain!:p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Halfords oil is cheaper than that isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    mickdw wrote: »
    Just had a look at my car manual there (1.8Tfsi), 502 00 is approved for normal interval servicing, not longlife. Thats a good price & I think I will buy some. Car just finishing warranty now so I will be doing oil changes myself.

    Edit: looked at link, where did OP find the specs for the oil? THinking again, I will be holding all receipts for service parts & Lidl oil wouldnt be a good selling point regardless of whether it meets the vw spec or not

    I couldn't care less about old receipts to be honest. If the service logbook was maintained, I'm happy enough.

    Not that any of it guarantee the work was actually done on the vehicle...:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,208 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Halfords oil is cheaper than that isn't it?

    Not full synth though.

    Upwards of €10/litre as said before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,074 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    The specs I posted are from the previous version of this oil, from 2008. I took the liberty of upping the API spec from SL to SM, because I'm pretty sure that's what this version would have.

    It is possible that the VW spec has been upgraded to 505.01.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,074 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Did a bit of googling. Original brand is PENNASOL SUPER PACE SAE 5W-40, made in Germany.

    Specs:

    API SM/CF,
    ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4,
    VW-Norm 502 00, 505 00
    Porsche
    MB 229.3
    BMW Longlife-98
    Opel GM–LL–B-025
    Renault RN 700, RN 710

    Not your ornery onager



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Matt Simis


    My local Motor Factors (tinnnnnny little shop) quoted me EUR50 all in for 2x 5litre cans of Elf Fully Synth 5w-40. Afaik Elf are now Total Energy branded.. any comments on how it would compare to the Lidl (Pennasol) oil?


    Also Esel, are you sure its Pennasol? I did some googling too, I found some Polish web forum making that connection (I think), nothing even remotely concrete though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    esel wrote: »
    Lidl have card care items next Monday 5th. Their synthetic oil is high spec and great value at €5 per litre.

    5W-40 ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4, API SM/CF
    BMW Longlife-98, MB 229.3, Opel GM-LL-B-025, Porsche, VW-Norm 502 00, 505 00
    It doesn't state BMW Longlife-98 in the ad in the OP. How do you know? Does it say on the bottle? Or was it from googling?


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Good value but I wouldn't leave it in an engine beyond 6000 miles or so, no doubt it is labelled fully syn and meets all the specs but quite likely it has ester as an additive rather than a basestock. Folks should remember that the cheapest synthetic oils available are often not really sysnthetic from a chemical perspective. They are often specially refined mineral oils of light viscosity. About 15 years ago there was a big legal battle in the states that allowed these fancy mineral oils to be labelled and marketed at synthetic.

    I only drive old cheap cars so wouldn't hesitate in lashing the Lidl stuff in my car (but at €5/L for the Lidl stuff I'll stick to the Mobil S 10w40 semi syn that can be gotten for €23 in Halfords from time to time) but if I had a modern pricey motor I would be very slow to use it, unless I was planning on taking it out after 6000 miles, I certainly wouldn't leave it in there for the recommended service interval in miles. It may well not be one of the fancy mineral oils but I wouldn't bank on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,074 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Matt Simis wrote: »
    Also Esel, are you sure its Pennasol? I did some googling too, I found some Polish web forum making that connection (I think), nothing even remotely concrete though.
    See this post (Polish forum) which quotes a fax from the manufacturer (i.e. the refinery). This fax crops up a few times when googling, and I can't see anyone going to the bother of faking the contents, tbh. So, I'm happy to accept that it's Pennasol.
    biko wrote: »
    It doesn't state BMW Longlife-98 in the ad in the OP. How do you know? Does it say on the bottle? Or was it from googling?
    From the bottle of Lidl's previous version of this oil, and from googling. It will state all the specs, including BMW, on the bottle.
    RoverJames wrote: »
    Good value but I wouldn't leave it in an engine beyond 6000 miles or so, no doubt it is labelled fully syn and meets all the specs but quite likely it has ester as an additive rather than a basestock. Folks should remember that the cheapest synthetic oils available are often not really sysnthetic from a chemical perspective. They are often specially refined mineral oils of light viscosity. About 15 years ago there was a big legal battle in the states that allowed these fancy mineral oils to be labelled and marketed at synthetic.
    From the manufacturer's PDF which I linked to in post 11 above:
    PENNASOL SUPER PACE consists entirely of synthetic base oils which meet the high technological demands of the latest engine generation

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭westeire


    I bought the oil in Lidl today, maybe it's nationwide??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,686 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    What are the specs on the bottle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭deaglan169


    was in lidl monaghan today and the oil is already on sale maybe its old stock from a previous special


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,074 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    mickdw wrote: »
    What are the specs on the bottle?
    I suppose Easter is the right time to be a Doubting Thomas... :D

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭GTE


    I checked it out and Im not convinced.

    I was reading the standards on the back and it says
    VW 505.00, BMW Special VW 505.01,

    The lack of a comma and having the BMW in the middle seemed odd. As if they just chucked the standards in without passing them after googling it.

    Also, a reason with a good base for doubt, it had VW505.01 on the Part Synthetic oil, what I assumed was semi synth. As far as Im aware VW strictly say no semi synth in their TDI's, only fully synth and specifically the PD TDI which is what the 505.01 standard is for so why would VAG put the 505.01 standard on a semi synth when they say no to it. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Ill give it a miss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    RoverJames wrote: »
    I only drive old cheap cars so wouldn't hesitate in lashing the Lidl stuff in my car (but at €5/L for the Lidl stuff I'll stick to the Mobil S 10w40 semi syn that can be gotten for €23 in Halfords from time to time) but if I had a modern pricey motor I would be very slow to use it, unless I was planning on taking it out after 6000 miles, I certainly wouldn't leave it in there for the recommended service interval in miles. It may well not be one of the fancy mineral oils but I wouldn't bank on it.

    What Fully Synthetic oil would you recommend for my 1.4Tdi VW engine?
    Mobil 1 ??
    Due and oil/filter change soon and only want to use good stuff


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    vectra wrote: »
    What Fully Synthetic oil would you recommend for my 1.4Tdi VW engine?
    Mobil 1 ??
    Due and oil/filter change soon and only want to use good stuff

    Wouldn't have a clue to be honest. The modern VW diesel engines require really good stuff, I have heard absolute horror stories of what happens the 150hbp 1.9 when the correct oil is not used (didn't understand the ins and outs of it but essentially wrecked engine was the jist of the story). According to the Castrol website for the 1.4TDi VW Castrol Edge 5w30 fully synthetic is the correct oil (€54.99 in Halfords for 4L).

    Halfords recommend 5w30 fully synthetic too, both their own brand (€51.99 for 5L with an 8 piece screwdriver set free at the mo) and the Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 (€59.99 for 4L & €64.99 for 5L).

    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/EngineOilGuidedSalesCmd?action=findEngineOils&amountRequired=fullService&storeId=10001&catalogId=10151&categoryId=165581&langId=-1&engineInd=1&makeName=50&modelName=5001&dvlaYear=52&subset=5001300&x=17&y=15

    Interestingly they don't recommend the Castrol product at all even though they do stock it, either VW don't recommend it or their is some politics going on.

    The Mobil is the same price ish if you need 5L, I'd go for that I reckon with a nice Mann filter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭Stoolbend


    vectra wrote: »
    What Fully Synthetic oil would you recommend for my 1.4Tdi VW engine?
    Mobil 1 ??
    Due and oil/filter change soon and only want to use good stuff

    Castrol edge. It's either 0W/30 or 5W/30 specifically for vw engines. If you're doing it youself it's worth spending the bit extra on the oil for the newer engines.(just my opinion)!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭daveharnett


    bbk wrote: »
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Ill give it a miss.
    I'll have a look tomorrow. Lots of oils claim to "meet or exceed standards of" x, y and z, without actually being certified.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    RoverJames wrote: »
    The Mobil is the same price ish if you need 5L, I'd go for that I reckon with a nice Mann filter.

    I like the sound of Mobil 1 ..!
    Do halfords stock Mann filters?
    barry81 wrote: »
    Castrol edge. It's either 0W/30 or 5W/30 specifically for vw engines. If you're doing it youself it's worth spending the bit extra on the oil for the newer engines.(just my opinion)!

    Yes indeed.
    I would only use the better oil.
    Much cheaper than fixing the engine. I want it right for the next owner as well this year.
    Cheers guys


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    vectra wrote: »
    I like the sound of Mobil 1 ..!
    Do halfords stock Mann filters?

    I don't think so, I never noticed them there, they come in distinctive green and yellow boxes (they used to anyway). Some factors stock them, quite a few garages and mechanics won't put anything else on a VAG car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    RoverJames wrote: »
    I don't think so, I never noticed them there, they come in distinctive green and yellow boxes (they used to anyway). Some factors stock them, quite a few garages and mechanics won't put anything else on a VAG car.


    Good stuff
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭GTE


    vectra wrote: »
    What Fully Synthetic oil would you recommend for my 1.4Tdi VW engine?
    Mobil 1 ??
    Due and oil/filter change soon and only want to use good stuff

    Indeed, your TDI is I think a pump dusse TDI so Im pretty sure it needs VW 505.01 spec oil. Dont quote me on that but if your car handbook has the oil specs listed for the engine, which it should and it does have 505.01 then look hard for good quality oil and take note of the specs. Oils that meet the VW505.00 standard are not suitable. It seems to be a hard one to find. I use an older TDI so I dont need that particular standard but I work in a shop that sells oil and Ive begun turning people away when they look for oil for their pump dusse engines because we cant stock and it seems to be an oil that is pretty rare.

    The following is a list of approved VW oil that meets the 505.01 standard, however it is for the US market so I dunno how the brands translate over here. And as you can see the copy and paste job I did has the copyright info showing its from 2007.

    AD Parts AD SDI SAE 5W-40
    Addinol Addinol Light MV 0546 PD SAE 5W-40
    Adnoc Adnoc Pearl SAE 5W-40
    Agip IP SINTIAX 505 EXCLUSIV SAE 5W-40
    Agip Agip 7004 SAE 5W-40
    Armorine Couguar SAE 5W-40
    Avia AVIA TDi 505.01 SAE 5W-40
    BP BP Visco Special V SAE 5W-40
    Bucher AG MOTOREX Select LA-X SAE 5W-30
    Carat Carat ad-Diesel PD-Oil SAE 5W-40
    Cartechnic CARTECHNIC Motorenöl Pumpe-Düse SAE 5W-40
    Castrol Castrol SLX 505 01 SAE 5W-40
    Castrol Castrol SLX Professional VW 50501 SAE 5W-40
    Castrol Castrol GTX Magnatec SAE 5W-30
    Castrol Castrol GTX Magnatec C3 SAE 5W-30
    Castrol Castrol Magnatec C3 SAE 5W-30
    Castrol Castrol Magnatec Professional C3 SAE 5W-30
    Castrol Castrol SLX Professional OE SAE 5W-30
    Castrol Castrol Magnatec Professional SAE 5W-40
    Castrol Castrol Magnatec Professional B4 SAE 5W-40
    Cepsa Cepsa Star TDI synt SAE 5W-40
    De Oliebron TOR Specialsynth SAE 5W-40
    Denicol Denicol Pro Syn 4 SAE 5W-40
    Elf Elf Excellium DID SAE 5W-40
    Elf Elf Excellium DID SAE 5W-40
    Elf Elf Excellium C3 SAE 5W-30
    Elf Elf Solaris LSX SAE 5W-30
    Elf Elf Excellium DID SAE 5W-30
    Engen Petroleum Engen Formula 505.01 SAE 5W-40
    Esso Esso 505 01 SAE 5W-30
    Eurol Eurol Turbo DI SAE 5W-40
    Eurol Eurol Turbo DI SAE 5W-40
    Fina Fina Delta 505.01 SAE 5W-40
    Fina Fina First 500 SAE 5W-30
    FL Selenia Aktual Top Synth SAE 5W-40
    FL Selenia Pulsar Progress SAE 5W-40
    FL Selenia Selenia Performer SAE 5W-40
    Fuchs Labo Syntha High Tech Synthese SAE 5W-40
    Fuchs TITAN Supersyn PLUS SAE 5W-40
    Galp energia Galp Formula 505 SAE 5W-40
    Ginouves York 742 SAE 5W-40
    GMC Oil GML Oil Eternity TDI SAE 5W-40
    Gulf Oil Gulf TEC Plus SAE 5W-40
    Gulf Oil Gulf Formula ULE SAE 5W-30
    Engine oils which currently meet VW Oil Quality Standard VW 505 01
    Please note: Not all oils listed may be available in North America
    Page 2 of 3 9/11/07
    ©2007 Volkswagen of America, Inc. It has always been Volkswagen's policy to continuously improve its products. Volkswagen, therefore,
    reserves the right to make changes in design and to make additions or improvements to its products without incurring any obligation to
    install them on products previously manufactured. Text and specifications in this Supplement are based on information and knowledge
    available at the time of printing. All rights are Reserved. No Part of this document may be reproduced or translated in whole or in part
    without the written consent of Volkswagen of America, Inc. Specifications are subject to change without notice. If you are not sure which oil
    to use, consult with your authorized Volkswagen Service Advisor.
    Igol Process 505.01 SAE 5W-40
    Kuwait Petroleum Q8 Motoroil 505 01 SAE 5W-40
    Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Diesel High Tech SAE 5W-40
    Liqui Moly Europart Motorenöl Pumpe Düse SAE 5W-40
    Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Nachfüllöl SAE 5W-40
    Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Pro-Engine M 500 SAE 5W-30
    Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Diesel High Tech SAE 5W-40
    Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Nachfüll-Öl SAE 5W-40
    Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Longtime High Tech SAE 5W-30
    Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Pro-Engine M 400 SAE 5W-40
    Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Top Tec 4100 SAE 5W-40
    Lotos Lotos Traffic Diesel 505.01 SAE 5W-40
    Meguin
    megol Motorenoel Super Leichtlauf
    Technology SAE 5W-40
    Meguin
    megol Motorenoel Super Leichtlauf
    Technology SAE 5W-40
    Meguin megol Motorenoel Low Emission SAE 5W-40
    Meguin megol Motorenoel New Generation SAE 5W-30
    Mobil Mobil Syst S Special V SAE 5W-30
    Mobil Tecar 50501 SAE 5W-30
    Modrica Optima Eco SAE 5W-30
    MOL MOL Dynamic Gold SAE 5W-30
    Motul Motul Specific 505 01 SAE 5W-40
    Motul Motul Specific 505 01 502 00 505 01 SAE 5W-40
    Motul Motul 8100 X-clean SAE 5W-40
    MRD Motor Gold Supertec PD SAE 5W-40
    Oel-Brack Midland Synova SAE 5W-40
    OMV OMV syn com diesel SAE 5W-40
    OMV OMV BIXXOL special C3 SAE 5W-30
    Panolin Panolin Daytona SAE 5W-40
    Panolin Panolin Daytona SAE 5W-40
    Paramo Mogul Racing S Pro SAE 5W-40
    Pennzoil Pennzoil Platinum European Ultra Diesel SAE 5W-30
    Pentosin Pentosynth HC SAE 5W-40
    Petrol Petrol 505.01 5W-40 SAE 5W-40
    Quaker State Quaker State Diesel Plus SAE 5W-40
    Rafinerija Modrica Optima 505 01 SAE 5W-40
    Ravensberger
    Schmierstoffvertrieb Ravenol VPD SAE 5W-40
    Redoil Italia Challoils Ultrasynt SAE 5W-40
    Repsol Repsol Elite 50501 TDI SAE 5W-40
    Repsol Repsol Elite 50501 TDI SAE 5W-40
    Rothen Oil Rothen Extrasynth SAE 5W-30
    Shell Shell Helix Diesel Plus VA SAE 5W-40
    Shell Shell Helix Diesel Ultra VA SAE 5W-30
    Shell Shell Helix Ultra AX SAE 5W-30
    Engine oils which currently meet VW Oil Quality Standard VW 505 01
    Please note: Not all oils listed may be available in North America
    Page 3 of 3 9/11/07
    ©2007 Volkswagen of America, Inc. It has always been Volkswagen's policy to continuously improve its products. Volkswagen, therefore,
    reserves the right to make changes in design and to make additions or improvements to its products without incurring any obligation to
    install them on products previously manufactured. Text and specifications in this Supplement are based on information and knowledge
    available at the time of printing. All rights are Reserved. No Part of this document may be reproduced or translated in whole or in part
    without the written consent of Volkswagen of America, Inc. Specifications are subject to change without notice. If you are not sure which oil
    to use, consult with your authorized Volkswagen Service Advisor.
    Shell Q European Engine Ultra Diesel SAE 5W-30
    Shell Shell Helix Diesel Plus VA SAE 5W-30
    SIG Car Jack GPD SAE 5W-40
    Sinopec Blue Spirit SAE 5W-40
    Sonol Sonol Synt 505.01 SAE 5W-40
    SRS Schmierstoff
    Vertrieb Wintershall Leichtlauf-Motorenöl PD SAE 5W-40
    Startol RASANTA SPECIALSYNT SAE 5W-40
    Statoil Statoil SuperWay 505.01 SAE 5W-40
    Statoil Statoil LazerWay C SAE 5W-40
    Sun Oil Sunoco Ultra semi-synthetic SAE 5W-40
    SWD Concep-Tech Synth. SAE 5W-40
    SWD swd Primus Synth. SAE 5W-40
    SWD Concep-Tech Synth. SAE 5W-40
    SWD swd Primus Synth. SAE 5W-40
    SWD GECCO Motorenöl SY SAE 5W-40
    SWD swd PRIMUS DX SAE 5W-30
    Tamoil Tamoil Sint Future Racing PD SAE 5W-40
    Tamoil Tamoil SINT FUTURE EXTRA SAE 5W-40
    Texaco Havoline 505.01 SAE 5W-40
    Total Total Quartz 505.01 SAE 5W-40
    Total Gulf GDI Extra SAE 5W-40
    Total Total Quartz INEO MC3 SAE 5W-30
    Unil Opal Opaljet Futura SAE 5W-40
    Valvoline Valvoline DuraBlend Diesel motor oil SAE 5W-40
    Valvoline Synpower MST SAE 5W-30
    Valvoline Synpower MST SAE 5W-30
    VAPS VAPSOIL 505 01 SAE 5W-40
    Volkswagen Original
    Teile ® Motorenoel G 052 167 A2 SAE 5W-40
    Wolf Wolf Masterlube Synflow PI SAE 5W-40
    Würth Triathlon Special PD SAE 5W-40
    Yacco Yacco VX 505 SAE 5W-40
    Yacco Yacco VX 1703 FAP SAE 5W-40


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    bbk wrote: »
    Indeed, your TDI is I think a pump dusse TDI so Im pretty sure it needs VW 505.01 spec oil. Dont quote me on that but if your car handbook has the oil specs listed for the engine, which it should and it does have 505.01 then look hard for good quality oil and take note of the specs. Oils that meet the VW505.00 standard are not suitable. It seems to be a hard one to find. I use an older TDI so I dont need that particular standard but I work in a shop that sells oil and Ive begun turning people away when they look for oil for their pump dusse engines because we cant stock and it seems to be an oil that is pretty rare.

    The following is a list of approved VW oil that meets the 505.01 standard, however it is for the US market so I dunno how the brands translate over here. And as you can see the copy and paste job I did has the copyright info showing its from 2007.

    Wow..!! :eek:

    Some selection there
    I must check the book tomorow.
    I should have mentioned it is the 80bhp sport engine as opposed to the normal 70BHP.
    Not sure if this would be a factor.

    Thanks for the post ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    bbk wrote:
    I checked it out and Im not convinced.

    I was reading the standards on the back and it says

    Quote:
    VW 505.00, BMW Special VW 505.01,

    Are you sure you were looking at the right bottle?

    Specification word for word from the back of the 1 litre bottle.
    Specification: API SM/CF, ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4.
    Approved according to /complies with: VW-norm 502 00,505 00, Porsche, MB 229.3, BMW Longlife-98, Opel GM-LL-B-025

    I bought 10 litres of the stuff today, should do the 2 litre petrol engine in the Audi A4 I'm driving for 6500 miles :rolleyes: Used only 10w40 semi-synth before but trying fully synth as an experiment to see if it makes any impact on the engines 1 litre per 1000 miles oil consumption.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭GTE


    Are you sure you were looking at the right bottle?

    Specification word for word from the back of the 1 litre bottle.


    I bought 10 litres of the stuff today, should do the 2 litre petrol engine in the Audi A4 I'm driving for 6500 miles :rolleyes: Used only 10w40 semi-synth before but trying fully synth as an experiment to see if it makes any impact on the engines 1 litre per 1000 miles oil consumption.

    What I quoted was word for word of that little section so it must have been a different bottle then what you were talking about.

    All that was there was 4 or 5 litre "Part Synthetic" stuff. Once I read what I typed in my post I lost any faith in the stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,309 ✭✭✭VolvoMan


    Just serviced my car with the 10W40 just there. So, with the oil filter I picked up in Halfords, that brings it to the total of about 23 Euro for an oil and filter change.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    bbk wrote:
    What I quoted was word for word of that little section so it must have been a different bottle then what you were talking about.

    All that was there was 4 or 5 litre "Part Synthetic" stuff. Once I read what I typed in my post I lost any faith in the stuff.
    Checked the bottle of Lidl 10w40 I have in the car and sure enough its says "BMW Special VW 505.01":). Well spotted.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    VolvoMan wrote: »
    Just serviced my car with the 10W40 just there. So, with the oil filter I picked up in Halfords, that brings it to the total of about 23 Euro for an oil and filter change.:)

    Is this the Yaris ? I thought 10w40 wasn't recommended for them ?


    I bought 10 litres of the stuff today, should do the 2 litre petrol engine in the Audi A4 I'm driving for 6500 miles :rolleyes: Used only 10w40 semi-synth before but trying fully synth as an experiment to see if it makes any impact on the engines 1 litre per 1000 miles oil consumption.

    Is there many miles on the Audi, a litre every 1000 miles is huge consumption as you no doubt are aware.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,309 ✭✭✭VolvoMan


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Is this the Yaris ? I thought 10w40 wasn't recommended for them ?

    And that's what I serviced it with in the end. I brought back the 15W40, paid the difference, and they exchanged it no bother.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    VolvoMan wrote: »
    And that's what I serviced it with in the end. I brought back the 15W40, paid the difference, and they exchanged it no bother.

    :), I actually thought that 10w40 wasn't recommended for the Yaris, according to both Castrol and Halfords on line oil guides, they may be wrong though.


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This reply is in the thread when you mentioned your Yaris :)
    RoverJames wrote: »
    The ole curiosity got the better of me so I did a small bit of internetting...

    Brian was bang on with the 5w30 according to the dudes at castrol, it's the only recommendation, now quite often they list perhaps two different viscosity oils for a car so when only one is recommended I would imagine it is crucial to stick to it
    http://www.castrol.com/castrol/iframe.do?categoryId=9024084&contentId=7044829

    No harm checking the Halfords recommendation
    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/EngineOilGuidedSalesCmd?action=findEngineOils&vrn=&storeId=10001&catalogId=10151&categoryId=165581&langId=-1&engineInd=1&makeName=44&modelName=4424&dvlaYear=39&subset=4424120&amountRequired=fullService&x=66&y=10

    looks like 5w30 is the only option for the 1.0 Yaris you have, it's not cheap unfortunately but the one you initially linked to for €24.99 is correct I think. Free set of screw drivers too, I actually got that set some years ago with a gallon of oil, they are quite good to be honest.

    Apologies, you will have to enter the details into the Castrol search function I linked to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,309 ✭✭✭VolvoMan


    RoverJames wrote: »
    :), I actually thought that 10w40 wasn't recommended for the Yaris, according to both Castrol and Halfords on line oil guides, they may be wrong though.

    BrianD3 did a google for me and found that I would just about get away with using 10W40.

    Anyway, I've taken the car for a drive since and everything seems fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭GTE


    VolvoMan wrote: »
    Anyway, I've taken the car for a drive since and everything seems fine.

    If unsuitable oil is used you wont know about it asap like dirty fuel. It could result in extra wear and tear in the long run and shorten the life span of the engine.

    Basically smoking doesnt kill you right away, but it hacks away at you later in life.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    VolvoMan wrote: »
    BrianD3 did a google for me and found that I would just about get away with using 10W40.

    Anyway, I've taken the car for a drive since and everything seems fine.
    cool, i'd be concerned that neither castrol nor halfords listed the 10 40, 5 30 is a significantly different oil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,309 ✭✭✭VolvoMan


    bbk wrote: »
    If unsuitable oil is used you wont know about it asap like dirty fuel. It could result in extra wear and tear in the long run and shorten the life span of the engine.

    If so, I am willing suffer the consequences just fine.;)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    would it do my 2001 passat 1.6 petrol


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bbk wrote: »
    If unsuitable oil is used you wont know about it asap like dirty fuel. It could result in extra wear and tear in the long run and shorten the life span of the engine.

    Basically smoking doesnt kill you right away, but it hacks away at you later in life.

    Folks at Yaris World agree
    http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=64572


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭GTE


    VolvoMan wrote: »
    If so, I am willing suffer the consequences just fine.;)

    I love those sassy winks of yours ;)


    What year Yaris is it anyway?
    I havent read about a lil Toyota engine thats picky on its oil untill tonight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,309 ✭✭✭VolvoMan


    RoverJames wrote: »

    Feckin' hell, does it really bother you that much about what oil I put in my own car?:rolleyes:
    bbk wrote: »
    What year Yaris is it anyway?

    2000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    bbk wrote: »
    If unsuitable oil is used you wont know about it asap like dirty fuel. It could result in extra wear and tear in the long run and shorten the life span of the engine.

    Basically smoking doesnt kill you right away, but it hacks away at you later in life.

    Wont make fcuk all of a difference again that engine is knackered the running gear will be long crushed


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    VolvoMan wrote: »
    Feckin' hell, does it really bother you that much about what oil I put in my car?:rolleyes:

    Well to be honest when someone asks is it ok to throw 15 40 in their car (after they say they know f all about car maintenance) and they then lash in 10 40 because someone gave them a google link saying it might be fine (even though no oil manufacturers on line guides concur) I thought it no harm to offer a link from Toyota folks. As the car has only a 2 year old engine in it I would have thought you would like to keep the engine in tip top condition.

    No need for the sarcy post above to be honest, I was only highlighting that 5w30 is recommended for the Yaris.
    No doubt you are an expert though, sure you drove it after the oil change and 'twas fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,309 ✭✭✭VolvoMan


    bbk wrote: »
    I love those sassy winks of yours ;)


    What year Yaris is it anyway?
    I havent read about a lil Toyota engine thats picky on its oil untill tonight.
    RoverJames wrote: »
    No need for the sarcy post above to be honest, I was only highlighting that 5w30 is recommended for the Yaris.

    Well what's done is done. If you really wanted to help that badly then you should've done so when I originally asked.

    Now, can we please lay this to rest before it turns into a massive argument?


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    VolvoMan wrote: »
    Well what's done is done. If you really wanted to help that badly then you should've done so when I originally asked.

    Now, can we please lay this to rest before it turns into a massive argument?

    :rolleyes:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=65241052#post65241052

    I did, two hours after someone said you might get away with the 10w40, generally if folks didn't want to help they wouldn't go pr1cking about on castrol and Halfords webites. You can rest assured it's laid to rest with me, even if there is a 3rd sarky remark heading my way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    RoverJames wrote:
    Is there many miles on the Audi, a litre every 1000 miles is huge consumption as you no doubt are aware
    76K miles at the moment but its been thirsty on the oil since around 40K miles.


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