Company car park

Muttly

I got a phone call today. A person I know had their car crashed into in the company where they works car park. There are no sigs up for liability waiver that you usually get ie The Company are not responsibly for damages etc etc etc.

No all avenues to find out who crashed into the car are being followed up on however its not looking like there's going to be much help there as no one that can be found seen anything and the security cameras don't point at the car park only on the doors to get in and out of the building.

Does anyone know where they stand on from a legal stand point as the damage happened on the company's grounds without any waiver as I've said above.

Damage wise there is at least 4-500 euro worth of damage.

rolion

If he wanna take it up with the company and "lose the job" then do it..otherwise fix it on your cash ! The claim from insurance plus the excess it may come back against it...

Muttly

It won't be going through the insurance as it'll kill the insurance for a few years after that so that won't be happening. The company are good to deal with so getting fired over it won't be an issue. I'm more interested as to know legally where they stand.

seamus

In order to claim from the company, you would need to show that the company did something wrong. Waivers and liability signs only have limited effect anyway, they're usually there for additional ass-covering and to discourage people from making complaints about their car being damaged.

In this case, someone else unattached to the company crashed into the vehicle. I cannot see how the company has any liability here as the company did not do anything which caused the crash to happen.

Damages/injuries on private property are not automatically the fault or liability of the body who owns that property. You need to show that there was fault on behalf of the body.

Muttly

Well they employ over 300 people and only give parking for around 100 staff, to me thats their problem not the employess, they force their employess to park on the side of the roads around the building or not bring their car which when you live 35 miles away isn't exactly an option.

Paulw

Muttly wrote: »

Well they employ over 300 people and only give parking for around 100 staff, to me thats their problem not the employess.

Can you show me where the company has an obligation to provide a car parking space for every employee?

fliptzer

Paulw wrote: »

Can you show me where the company has an obligation to provide a car parking space for every employee?

It was under the 2007 Celtic Tiger (Gimme free stuff) Act but was repealed under the 2009 Recession (Stop Complaining) Act…:D

Seriously though - would the motor insurers’ bureau of Ireland deal with an issue like this given the damage was caused by an unknown vehicle?
www.mibi.ie

seamus

fliptzer wrote: »

Seriously though - would the motor insurers’ bureau of Ireland deal with an issue like this given the damage was caused by an unknown vehicle? www.mibi.ie

Afaik, mibi won't handle collisions from unknown vehicles - you need to be able to show that the other driver was uninsured, which requires you to have that driver's details.

If you think about it logically, anyone could prang their car against a wall and make claim to mibi on the basis that someone else did it and drove off.

The company has no obligation to provide parking, and if they do provide parking, they have no obligation to provide enough parking nor to make sure that the parking area is secure. Car accidents occuring on their property aren't their responsibility.

Cunsiderthis

fliptzer wrote: »

It was under the 2007 Celtic Tiger (Gimme free stuff) Act but was repealed under the 2009 Recession (Stop Complaining) Act…:D

lol - there are still those who think everything must be a lawsuit and the fault of someone else, in this case the employer "must" be responsible. It's maddening to have ones car pranged in a car park, but that doesn't make it the responsibility of the employer!

jenny jinks

seamus wrote: »

Afaik, mibi won't handle collisions from unknown vehicles - you need to be able to show that the other driver was uninsured, which requires you to have that driver's details.

If you think about it logically, anyone could prang their car against a wall and make claim to mibi on the basis that someone else did it and drove off.

The company has no obligation to provide parking, and if they do provide parking, they have no obligation to provide enough parking nor to make sure that the parking area is secure. Car accidents occuring on their property aren't their responsibility.

The MIBI will pay for personal injury caused by an uninsured or unidentified driver but will not pay for physical damage unless the reg no of the vehicle which caused the damage is known.