Best AK74M

di11on

Hi all,

I'm in the market for an AK74M.

What offers the best bang for buck in terms of reliability and accuracy?

Thanks in advance!

Stercus Accidit

Kalash and Cyma do clone models, you would want a later model cyma or a full steel kalash.

Higher priced would be the VFC with a better external quality, if not internally so.

I'd get a kalash personally, the internals on mine haven't needed an ounce of maintenace, just get a better hop rubber for it like a madbull or guarder, maybe a tightbore, I never used the stock barrel on mine :P so I can't comment.
It is a 500mm barrel though, so is going to have decent accuracy anyway, and they have 6.04mm barrels as standard I think.

Puding

value for money has to be the latest kalash, personally im not a fan of the finish on the kalash models which is why i went for the smooth matt finish of the vfc model as i agree with Stercus Accidit on it having nicer externals, the internals are ok on the vfc on a par with the cyma/kalash but that is the problem your paying double the price for the vfc model so expect a little more from the internals for your money

Stercus Accidit

I was saying the VFC has better externals than the kalash, is that not what you are saying too?

Puding

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

I was saying the VFC has better externals than the kalash, is that not what you are saying too?

ignore me, sorry, just got back from work and miss read your post changed my post to correct by stupidity

Stercus Accidit

Puding wrote: »

ignore me, sorry, just got back from work and miss read your post changed my post to correct by stupidity

Lol no worries.

I am interested in how the cyma finish compare though, they have some steel ak74m's don't they?

Puding

they do, but you run into the normal problem with supply and not know 100% what you have untill you have the product or unless you can view it in a shop as there a number of production runs

if you can defiantly get one of the newest runs with the pin construction and the side optics rail there defiantly worth a look, i'm very impressed with my cyma akm, just finished refinishing the wood, ungraded the internals with a modify set and m120 along with 6.03 barrel and guarder clear bucking, looking to take this as a back up to my rs svd at senny in may

di11on

Thanks guys, that's really helpful. Think I'll go for the Kalash.

Cheers all!

ZeroSignal

di11on wrote: »

Thanks guys, that's really helpful. Think I'll go for the Kalash.

Cheers all!

Just to add to this discussion, I've had 2 Kalashs (metal RK-03 and steel RK-02S) and have had problems with both of them. A fellow team mate has had a steel RK-08S and hasn't had the slightest trouble with it so you never know what you're going to get.

Also, it's worth pointing out that the Kalash AK-74M (RK-05), only comes in the metal version, which apparently has an inferior gear-box to the steel Kalash models. To make a steel RK-05S, you'd need an RK-02 and buy a DBoys AK-74M stock and add it on yourself.

As you know already, di11on, we've got a pair of steel Cyma CM040Cs on their way to us and you'll find out how we get on with them, first hand I'd expect...

I'll be sure to post up our experiences of them.

BTW, Puding, do you think there would be "inferior" runs (as you mentioned about Cymas) of CM040Cs out there that I should be aware of? Anything I should look out for?

Stercus Accidit

No steel model ak74m by kalash?

Silly of them, they have all the parts, maybe go for an ak74 full wood stock in steel, would certainly look nice

There are the cyma models, but they can either be full steel or a mix, with no real way to tell until you get them from what I've heard.

Puding got a great cm048 AKM for example, but I read a review of one that had a mix of metal, and a poor build quality.

sliabh

Puding and Stercus, more AKs than the Ukranian army...

Puding

seen the 05 advertised as steal but have to admit i;ve never had some or sold one thought the shop so it would not surprise me if the descriptions where wrong

i would not say there are any inferior lines in terms of quality you need to be aware of ( other than the normal inconstancy in chinasoft products you sometimes get but this come with all such products ) just make shore you get the model your looking for the CM040C is the one of the new gen and does not use the tm style of construction, a lot of the time i see cyma and dboys ak simply sold as cyma ak74 and its pot luck what model they have in

di11on

Thanks again all.

It all seems to be academic anyway... can't seem to get anything anywhere. No one has stock of anything!

What's the quickest way to get AEGs these days?

Looks like I'm looking for a CM040C... but where to get one?

Shiva

di11on wrote: »

What's the quickest way to get AEGs these days?

Looks like I'm looking for a CM040C... but where to get one?

DBoys/Kalash have re-opened, so you'll start to see stock appearing in the next couple of weeks.

I've been told Cyma are still closed, but are re-opening in a week or two....so it'll be maybe a month or so before you see new stock of them anywhere. A couple of places might have old stock.

ZeroSignal

Comrade Dillon, I have something that might interest you:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=65231758#post65231758

If you need to ask me any questions you can get in touch with me through the usual channels... :cool:

di11on

ZeroSignal wrote: »

Comrade Dillon, I have something that might interest you:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=65231758#post65231758

If you need to ask me any questions you can get in touch with me through the usual channels... :cool:

Thanks a million, great review.

From my searches so far, I'll be lucky to have any choice at all!

I'd nearly spend the money on a VFC... except that the internals really do appear to be dodgy.

ZeroSignal

di11on wrote: »

Thanks a million, great review.

From my searches so far, I'll be lucky to have any choice at all!

I'd nearly spend the money on a VFC... except that the internals really do appear to be dodgy.

Hmmm... I've never heard anything about VFC internals being dodgy.

PMing, BTW...

Puding

di11on wrote: »

Thanks a million, great review.

From my searches so far, I'll be lucky to have any choice at all!

I'd nearly spend the money on a VFC... except that the internals really do appear to be dodgy.

taiwangun have stock http://www.taiwangun.com/electric_air_soft_guns-c003.html along with actionhobby both inside europe for you http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/searchresults.aspx?searchterm=ak
ak74m http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/CYMA-AK101-Side-Folding-Stock-040C-Metal-Body_ARDSL.aspx

they also have the nice akm i reviewed in stock http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/CYMA-AKM-Full-Stock-048M-Metal-Body-Wood_ARDSN.aspx

Hmmm... I've never heard anything about VFC internals being dodgy.

never really found them to be dodgy at all, could just be better for the price of the aeg, good quality parts are used and everything is smooth and solid but nothing special about the gearboxs, but tbh of late the internal quality really has bee jumping up just look at the new m4 line

di11on

Thanks Puding, I hadn't even heard of those sites and they didn't turn up in any of my searches either. You've obviously been suffering from gear-lust longer than me :-)

Is it risky ordering from abroad with the unenforced ban on imports and all that?

Edit: Read a pretty bad review about a VFC AK74M.... nylon bushings breaking and stuff... he may just have received a bad one I guess

Puding

you can find good and bad reviews of most products, the nylon bushings are not bad but there one of the things that one under the heading of 'could have been better for the price' still have two stock vfc aks running strong after 2 years and 100s of thousands of rounds down them, then again it kinda makes up for all the trouble with the vfc aj416 and the run away gearbox issue

the two shops linked to are inside Europe so minimal issues as there not going though customs just email them about downgrades, would recommend the guys at actionhobby in the uk nice husband and wife that run the shop