Impact TV3

speakeasy900

I know TV3 are trying hard to make their own shows now and want to be taken seriously, but this latest 'hard hitting' series is utterly woeful.

A very worthy subject no doubt, but it was made in the style of an extended news report, with Gay Byrne thrown in, to give it some credibility. It's a shame they didn't get old Gaybo a chair without a relentless creaking sound, it totally distracted from what he was saying but it didnt really matter cos Gay's bits to camera were like Jerry Springer's 'final thought'.

It seems that when making shows, TV3 just want to cash in on certain subjects where they know people will be vulnerable and upset on camera...

longshanks

am i the only one who wishes that gay byrne would just fuck off, and stay fucked off? as soon as i see his smug hamster head, or hear his self important whiny voice i have to change channels. the prick retired years ago but keeps popping up as if he is still somehow relevant.

and tv3 are the enda kenny of tv channels, we know its there, its makes some noise every now and then but at the end of the day its just a pathetic little bitch.

Thargor

Its a total disaster of a channel alright.

Koloman

speakeasy900 wrote: »

I know TV3 are trying hard to make their own shows now and want to be taken seriously, but this latest 'hard hitting' series is utterly woeful.

A very worthy subject no doubt, but it was made in the style of an extended news report, with Gay Byrne thrown in, to give it some credibility. It's a shame they didn't get old Gaybo a chair without a relentless creaking sound, it totally distracted from what he was saying but it didnt really matter cos Gay's bits to camera were like Jerry Springer's 'final thought'.

It seems that when making shows, TV3 just want to cash in on certain subjects where they know people will be vulnerable and upset on camera...

Saying TV3 just wanted to "cash in" is a bit harsh. I think they should be applauded for making this show especially as they are a commercial broadcaster.

speakeasy900

Koloman wrote: »

Saying TV3 just wanted to "cash in" is a bit harsh. I think they should be applauded for making this show especially as they are a commercial broadcaster.

Yeah you're right TV3 are commercial and when TV3 make something they think of money, nothing else, pure and simple.

Koloman

speakeasy900 wrote: »

TV3 make something they think of money, nothing else, pure and simple.

So? That's the business they are in, to make money like every other commercial operation, no?

Can't fault them for that!

speakeasy900

Koloman wrote: »

So? That's the business they are in, to make money like every other commercial operation, no?

Can't fault them for that!

Yeah so they're cashing in on people's grief. Pity they do it so badly, with this American style show.

duckygalway

Does anyone else get the ad at the bottom of this page for beepbeep.ie?!!

On the subject of Gay Byrne... he can't present anymore, very out of touch. Did anyone see him on the last Telethon he did? Showed him up like an amateur having to be cued and generally all over the shop!!

ekberry

TV3 is starting to drive me crazy too. All the "hard-hitting" docs are blending into one and all with the awful music and drawn out voice overs. Gay Byrne is rubbish although he probably only did a half-assed job coz they wouldn't pay him:rolleyes: For about a year after TV3 first started I actually thought it was a community channel! Then it got a bit better and I actually liked some of the bought in programmes that they showed. The TV3 produced programmes weren't all that bad at the time either as they didn't try pretend they were any good at it ... unlike now! All of a sudden over the past year it has just gone really bad, the docs are the same old crap and the presenters look like they hate the place. Commercial or not it doesn't matter, and that sounds like an excuse, it's as simple as this, if they insist on showing crappy programmes nobody is going to watch them - end of! And if nobody watches then the revenue won't come in. They're obviously as bad at business as they are at tv if they don't realise that.

Koloman

ekberry wrote: »

TV3 is starting to drive me crazy too. All the "hard-hitting" docs are blending into one and all with the awful music and drawn out voice overs. Gay Byrne is rubbish although he probably only did a half-assed job coz they wouldn't pay him:rolleyes: For about a year after TV3 first started I actually thought it was a community channel! Then it got a bit better and I actually liked some of the bought in programmes that they showed. The TV3 produced programmes weren't all that bad at the time either as they didn't try pretend they were any good at it ... unlike now! All of a sudden over the past year it has just gone really bad, the docs are the same old crap and the presenters look like they hate the place. Commercial or not it doesn't matter, and that sounds like an excuse, it's as simple as this, if they insist on showing crappy programmes nobody is going to watch them - end of! And if nobody watches then the revenue won't come in. They're obviously as bad at business as they are at tv if they don't realise that.

They can't be that bad at business as TV3 regularly outperforms RTE2 for ratings.

Unless you know some of the presenters for TV3 then you can't possibly know if they "hate the place" as you put it. Alan Hughes always looks chirpy when he is on!

iseegirls

ekberry wrote: »

For about a year after TV3 first started I actually thought it was a community channel! Then it got a bit better and I actually liked some of the bought in programmes that they showed. The TV3 produced programmes weren't all that bad at the time either as they didn't try pretend they were any good at it ... unlike now!

A community channel??? So judging from 'A Game Of Two Halves', 'Gimme3', 'Pop On 3' and 'News at 6' as their only homemade productions in the first year - you think they were good homemade shows that they should be producing for a TV channel??

From where they were then to now is a massive improvement - given it's taken them a while to sort it out.

Primetime programming before would have consisted of American and English shows, probably 2 years behind, that would have ended already - shows like Falcone, Blade, Saved, Air America, Crime Traveller etc. . . would have been shown on prime time with no homemade programming being shown at all.

But now we're seeing more and more Irish shows on TV3 which surely can only be a good thing. The Apprentice, Dirty Money, Living With Murder and many more have done well for TV3.

Although I hate the recent one off shows they've been producing recently. Raising Children - Irelands Top 10 - Top 10 Celebrity Fitness Videos Of All Time - programmes detailing the uprise and decline of Kerry Katona, Cheryl Cole and Jordan are just absolute cheap TV and boring really. They just contain zlist celebs talking about other people - that's it. Hopefully they'll get rid of them soon.

And Over The Rainbow on TV3 too??? What the hell? Watch it on BBCOne with no adverts, or watch it on TV3 adding 30mins onto the show with adverts. Really strange decision to show it.

speakeasy900

iseegirls wrote: »

A community channel??? So judging from 'A Game Of Two Halves', 'Gimme3', 'Pop On 3' and 'News at 6' as their only homemade productions in the first year - you think they were good homemade shows that they should be producing for a TV channel??

From where they were then to now is a massive improvement - given it's taken them a while to sort it out.

Primetime programming before would have consisted of American and English shows, probably 2 years behind, that would have ended already - shows like Falcone, Blade, Saved, Air America, Crime Traveller etc. . . would have been shown on prime time with no homemade programming being shown at all.

But now we're seeing more and more Irish shows on TV3 which surely can only be a good thing. The Apprentice, Dirty Money, Living With Murder and many more have done well for TV3.

Although I hate the recent one off shows they've been producing recently. Raising Children - Irelands Top 10 - Top 10 Celebrity Fitness Videos Of All Time - programmes detailing the uprise and decline of Kerry Katona, Cheryl Cole and Jordan are just absolute cheap TV and boring really. They just contain zlist celebs talking about other people - that's it. Hopefully they'll get rid of them soon.

And Over The Rainbow on TV3 too??? What the hell? Watch it on BBCOne with no adverts, or watch it on TV3 adding 30mins onto the show with adverts. Really strange decision to show it.

The Apprentice is an american format bought in and Living With Murder had to have been one of the crappiest series I have ever seen on Irish television. It stoops to a new low level of tabloid Sunday World style drivel.

Elmo

Koloman wrote: »

So? That's the business they are in, to make money like every other commercial operation, no?

Can't fault them for that!

No but their docs are often just thrown together just because they are a commercial operation doesn't mean that they need to produce badly put together shows. And often as the OP stated ash in on certain subjects where they know people will be vulnerable and upset on camera. (However I would think that this subject is a little more relevant, unlike some of their other docs which try to make out as though we might have a soccer hooligan culture or a youths out of control. (I am sure we do but Mountain/Molehill).

Hopefully they'll get rid of them soon.

Cheap to make and repeatable on 3e, which suits those types of shows.

The Apprentice, Dirty Money, Living With Murder and many more have done well for TV3.

You will find many of them getting part of the licnece fee (The Apprentice excluded) yet Raising Children was a Sound And Vision commission :eek:

As I didn't get to see this show I can't comment on the show. However if it is anything like allot of the In-house docs of recent past is it possibly not very insightful. To me it seems like TV3 want to fill up their air time with as much cheap Irish programming as possible and if they aren't making cheap Irish programming they are finding some way to use the Sound and Vision fund (which is fine since they generally have more money to spend on them).

TV3 make their living from ITV programming, they have no real interested in creating Irish jobs in the industry - but as pointed out - they wish to make money. What needs to happen to TV3 is for someone to out bid them for their ITV productions and see how well they do without it.

TV3 should at this stage be equaling RTÉ 1 in terms of audience. After all it is a Duopoly.

ekberry

Koloman wrote: »

They can't be that bad at business as TV3 regularly outperforms RTE2 for ratings.

Unless you know some of the presenters for TV3 then you can't possibly know if they "hate the place" as you put it. Alan Hughes always looks chirpy when he is on!

Well IMO if they're not bad at business then they are bad at public relations and unaware of people's perceptions, my opinion of TV3 has gone down in recent times and I know that personally I dislike most of the programmes it shows. As for regularly outperforming RTE2, I'm sure this is when the likes of Coronation, Emmerdale, XFactor (ITV progs) are aired. What else could it be? And if TV3 are outshining RTE2 then the money must be coming in but yet the CEO claimed there were cutbacks, etc etc and Play TV was vital in order to supplement the revenue. Again, what awful PR if they were actually in profit. They sure didn't put the money into quality programmes. And their programmes simply have not improved in 12 years or however long they are on air but they hadn't a penny in those days. I used to like TV3, don't get me wrong, but sick of the same old crap at this stage.

Elmo

ekberry wrote: »

They sure didn't put the money into quality programmes. And their programmes simply have not improved in 12 years or however long they are on air but they hadn't a penny in those days.

Play TV was devastating to TV3 weather they care to admit it or not (they just want to forget about it).

It is about Quantity over Quality. TV3 and the BAI both seem to think that 30% Irish programming is better than spending 30% of TV3's total budget on quality Irish programming. I would rather see an hours quality TV rather than 7 hours of rubbish.