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stove or range

  • 29-03-2010 9:08pm
    #1
    SimonspencerH
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    Can anyone give me some advice on solid fuel stoves/ranges? I am thinking of installing in our renovated house either a solid fuel(wood/coal) stove or range, both with a back boiler. Which is more efficient at heating a large room and 6-8 rads? Which is the more convenient to use? The range is at least double the price of a stove, but of course can be used for cooking as well. Does the greater thermal mass of the range have much impact?

    Cheers, Simon
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    volvo 240
    Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭volvo 240


    SimonspencerH wrote: »
    Can anyone give me some advice on solid fuel stoves/ranges? I am thinking of installing in our renovated house either a solid fuel(wood/coal) stove or range, both with a back boiler. Which is more efficient at heating a large room and 6-8 rads? Which is the more convenient to use? The range is at least double the price of a stove, but of course can be used for cooking as well. Does the greater thermal mass of the range have much impact?

    Cheers, Simon

    It depends what your main use is going to be. Cooking more or more as a heating unit. If the latter I would fit a multifuel stove in the living room with thermostatic control and enjoy the flames through the glass:) If your living room has no chimney but your kitchen does then it makes more sense to install a range. You really need to calculate the required kw needed to heat the various rooms and then select a stove/range with the required output back boiler. You then need to make sure that the stove/range does not produce too much heat to the room it is installed. If the stove/range does not have enough direct heat output you could always install a radiator in the same room. If you are burning only wood remember that the boiler heat output will be reduced as they are rated on solid fuel.
    Some ranges like rayburn are cast iron and so do take longer to cool down (thermal mass) but a bit longer to heat all of the cast iron.
    The thing I would miss most is not being able to see the fire with a range! How big is your house or how many rooms? We heat our house with a Villager AHI woodburner boiler stove. It heats our 100sqm 3 bed stone house in France very well. We run 12.6kw or radiators and have 11 of them in various sizes. We are going to install a stove with back boiler Parkray cumbria though as the AHI villager would give out too much heat to our new living room. Warmsler and stanley and rayburn are very good as solid fuel ranges.
    Stanley solid fuel cookers. http://www.waterfordstanley.com/Products/Rangecookers/1150.htm
    Rayburn cookers. Lacking in product info. I would ask for a brochure. http://www.rayburn.ie/ Part of the waterford stanley group.
    Warmsler cookers/boilers.
    http://www.wamslercookers.co.uk/
    Our villager AHI that we have. Cost 780 pounds new at Harridge stoves at southampton, totton. UK.
    http://www.pus.com.tr/villager/wood_burning_A.html

    A good website of different stove reviews by owners.
    http://www.whatstove.co.uk/


    James:)


  • #3
    SimonspencerH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭SimonspencerH


    Thanks James,

    I think that the main objectives are a) heat to the large kitchen/dining room and b) heat to 7-10 rads. Also, I don't want to have to chop the wood into small bits, so the bigger firebox the better. We will have an electric cooker as well, so we wouldn't actually need the cooking ability of the range. I think that the best option is probably a large multi-fuel stove, rather than a range.

    Thanks for your advice,

    Simon


  • #4
    volvo 240
    Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭volvo 240


    SimonspencerH wrote: »
    Thanks James,

    I think that the main objectives are a) heat to the large kitchen/dining room and b) heat to 7-10 rads. Also, I don't want to have to chop the wood into small bits, so the bigger firebox the better. We will have an electric cooker as well, so we wouldn't actually need the cooking ability of the range. I think that the best option is probably a large multi-fuel stove, rather than a range.

    Thanks for your advice,

    Simon

    I think in your case then a large multifuel stove would be best. Our villager AHI can take a 500mm long log and you can also get an optional multifuel grate. I would say at full burn it produces around 4-5kw to the room. The dunsley yorkshire boiler stove is supposed to be excellent but I have never had one and it can be install in a smoke free area and still burn wood. Expensive though!! It has a flat top as well and is 9.5 kw to boiler on wood and 4.5kw to the rooml!!
    Also have a look at clearview 650 and 750 stoves. Supposed to be the best stove in the UK. They do them with bigger boilers than the dunsley yorkshire. http://www.clearviewstoves.com/clearview650.htm
    But get a person to do a calculation of boiler size needed. James:)


  • #5
    reganww
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭reganww


    SimonspencerH wrote: »
    Can anyone give me some advice on solid fuel stoves/ranges? I am thinking of installing in our renovated house either a solid fuel(wood/coal) stove or range, both with a back boiler. Which is more efficient at heating a large room and 6-8 rads? Which is the more convenient to use? The range is at least double the price of a stove, but of course can be used for cooking as well. Does the greater thermal mass of the range have much impact?

    Cheers, Simon

    I have instlled one of these.
    http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_burning_stoves/Aquatherm-Eco-F21-insert-boiler-stove.html

    Put it into my renovated 2,400sqft Victorian house in the new extension. Amazing thing - it heats the rooms, hot water and rooms. It also has a mechanical cold water 'dump'. ie. if the power cuts out and the pump stops working the boiler will dump cold water into the unit to cool it down. I have it plumbed into my pressurized system - works a treat...


  • #6
    okofen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 ✭okofen


    IN MY EXPERIENCE THE WATERFORD STANLEY ERIN STOVE IS THE ONLY STOVE TO GO FOR, 12.7KW TO THE BOILER AND 6 KW TO THE ROOM, 25 YEARS ON THE MARKET, PARTS I.E GRATES , GLASS ,OF THE SHELF IN STANLEY STOCKIST,THE ONLY STOVE SUPPLIER IN IRELAND THAT DOES ITS OWN PRESSING, DRILLING,ENAMELING AND PUTTING TOGETHER HERE IN IRELAND EMPLOYING 130 PEOPLE. THE CAST IRON DOES COME IN FROM AGA'S FOUNDRY IN POLAND AND IN CHINA BUT IS A QUALITY CAST IRON.ALSO STANLEY ARE THE ONLY STOVE SUPPLIER THAT HAVE 2 COMMISIONING/SERVIVE ENGINEERS IN PLACE IN EVERY COUNTY IN IRELAND TO LOOK AFTER ANY PROBLEMS THAT MIGHT ARISE THROUGH THERE 5 YEAR WARRANTY.


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  • #7
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    okofen wrote: »
    IN MY EXPERIENCE THE WATERFORD STANLEY ERIN STOVE IS THE ONLY STOVE TO GO FOR, 12.7KW TO THE BOILER AND 6 KW TO THE ROOM, 25 YEARS ON THE MARKET, PARTS I.E GRATES , GLASS ,OF THE SHELF IN STANLEY STOCKIST,THE ONLY STOVE SUPPLIER IN IRELAND THAT DOES ITS OWN PRESSING, DRILLING,ENAMELING AND PUTTING TOGETHER HERE IN IRELAND EMPLOYING 130 PEOPLE. THE CAST IRON DOES COME IN FROM AGA'S FOUNDRY IN POLAND AND IN CHINA BUT IS A QUALITY CAST IRON.ALSO STANLEY ARE THE ONLY STOVE SUPPLIER THAT HAVE 2 COMMISIONING/SERVIVE ENGINEERS IN PLACE IN EVERY COUNTY IN IRELAND TO LOOK AFTER ANY PROBLEMS THAT MIGHT ARISE THROUGH THERE 5 YEAR WARRANTY.

    No need to shout there, take the caps lock off, tis bad netiquette!


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