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Ruling required - Can't replace ball on putting green in correct place

  • 29-03-2010 7:01pm
    #1
    G1032
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,185 ✭✭✭


    Was out the last day and hit my approach to a par 4 which ended up near the top of a steep slope on the green. Quite how the ball managed to stop where it did I don't know. Went up and marked the ball, cleaned it etc and when it was my turn to putt I went to replace the ball. But it wouldn't stay still after I left it down. It kept rolling off down the hill.
    It wasn't a competitive round so I just ended up placing it near the marker, as in a few inches away.
    If it had been a competitive round what would my options have been? The ball isn't in play until I take the marker away after repalcing the ball. But yet I couldn't replace it in it's original position - as close to it's nearest position as possible was a couple of inches away. Would I just have to stay there until I did get it to stay still? Any ideas?


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  • #2
    Sandwlch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Sandwlch


    The ball never goes back where you picked it up anyway. There is no tolerance for this error in the rules of golf. In theory you are free to chose the distance from the original spot yourself. Golf and honour and all that. You place it as close as practically possible. Which you did.


  • #3
    fullstop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,566 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    This happened Mickelson in the Tour Championship at the 18th a few years ago. The green has a big tier across it and his ball finished on the tier. When he replaced it, it wouldn't stay and kept rolling down closer to the hole. It took a while to resolve but he eventually placed it as close as possible to where the ball was originally.


  • #4
    G1032
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,185 ✭✭✭G1032


    Thanks for the replies lads. Porbably something that'll never happen me again but ya never know......


  • #5
    curly from cork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭curly from cork


    well i have a strange one for you..
    just back from munster champs played in horrific weather and gale force winds in ballybunion. the rules official told us ( and i asked her to repeat herself ) when your ball is on the green, you mark it and pick it up .. to clean line up or whatever.. then when you replace the ball on the green its in play. whether or not you have lifted your marker, so if the ball rolls and your marker is still on the green you must play the ball as it lies.
    is this a rule of golf ?


  • #6
    G1032
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,185 ✭✭✭G1032


    curly from cork wrote: »
    well i have a strange one for you..
    just back from munster champs played in horrific weather and gale force winds in ballybunion. the rules official told us ( and i asked her to repeat herself ) when your ball is on the green, you mark it and pick it up .. to clean line up or whatever.. then when you replace the ball on the green its in play. whether or not you have lifted your marker, so if the ball rolls and your marker is still on the green you must play the ball as it lies.
    is this a rule of golf ?

    Strange that. We had a GUI rules official down in the club one night during last summer and he said that the ball is not in play until the marker is taken away.
    Will have to look it up now............

    Rule 20-d answers my original question. Still not sure about the lifted marker scenario.


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  • #7
    curly from cork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭curly from cork


    found the answer.....rule 20 4/1
    BALL REPLACED ON PUTTING GREEN BUT BALL MARKER NOT REMOVED: BALL THEN MOVES

    Q A player replaces his ball on the putting green but does not remove his ball marker.Subsequently the wind moves his ball to a new position. What is the ruling?

    A. Under rule 20-4 a ball is in play when it is replaced, whether or not the object used to mark its new position has been removed. Consequently the play must be played from its new position.


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