Proposed ban on Stag Hunting

Valmont

I was hoping you all could clear something up for me; I was reading the Irish Times today and they were talking about the protest against the Green Party in Waterford. The article repeatedly referred to the 'proposed ban on Stag Hunting' which is confusing me because I thought they only wanted to ban hunting with dogs. Are they actually pushing to criminalise the hunting of deer with guns too?

sako75 hunter

Valmont wrote: »

I was hoping you all could clear something up for me; I was reading the Irish Times today and they were talking about the protest against the Green Party in Waterford. The article repeatedly referred to the 'proposed ban on Stag Hunting' which is confusing me because I thought they only wanted to ban hunting with dogs. Are they actually pushing to criminalise the hunting of deer with guns too?

As far as i am aware it is trying to ban hunting stags using hounds or any other type of dog. The ward union is the only licenced stag hunt in ireland which uses hounds to hunt stags and bring it to bay.
They are not (and hopefully never will ) trying to stop shooting of deer it is only the hunting of stags with hounds. Thats the jist of it.;)

jwshooter

i hope they do , no more wet mornings going around ireland on my elbows .

Valmont

Is it your job to cull deer in Wicklow? Sounds pretty cool to me!

Sparks

From todays'sIrish Times:

Cabinet approves contentious Bill to ban stag hunting
MARY MINIHAN

THE CABINET has approved the Bill to ban stag hunting, as some rural Fianna Fáil backbenchers claimed Green leader John Gormley “snubbed” their concerns about proposed dog-breeding and planning legislation.

Mr Gormley’s spokesman said the ban, enshrined in the Wildlife Amendment Bill 2010 which will make hunting deer with a pack of hounds an offence, was “as much on the grounds of public safety as it is on the grounds of animal welfare”.

A meeting between Mr Gormley and members of Fianna Fáil’s environmental policy group, scheduled for yesterday, did not take place and has been rescheduled for noon today.

Fianna Fáil representatives gathered in the party’s rooms in the afternoon hoping to speak to Mr Gormley about the Green-sponsored Dog Breeding Establishments Bill 2009 and the Planning and Development (Amendment) Bill 2009, which have created difficulties within the Coalition.

Some knew beforehand that Mr Gormley would not attend, while others found out when they arrived at the meeting.

Mr Gormley’s spokesman said the Minister wanted two officials to be in attendance, but did not believe it was correct to bring them to the Fianna Fáil party rooms.

Mr Gormley is understood to have offered to meet a small Fianna Fáil delegation in his own office but this offer was refused.

His spokesman said he had set time aside on one of the busiest days of the year, which was dominated by developments relating to the National Asset Management Agency. The rescheduled meeting will take place in a meeting room in Leinster House.

Carlow-Kilkenny TD Bobby Aylward chaired the meeting in the absence of Limerick West TD John Cregan.

His constituency colleagues MJ Nolan and John McGuinness also attended, along with Tipperary North TD Máire Hoctor, Tipperary South deputy Mattie McGrath, Cork North-Central’s Noel O’Flynn, Cork South-West TD Christy O’Sullivan, Brendan Kenneally of Waterford, Laois-Offaly’s Seán Fleming and, briefly, Senator John Carty from Co Mayo. Others sent apologies.

Mr O’Sullivan said: “I’m absolutely disappointed that he didn’t come to meet the parliamentary party grouping . . . he snubbed us in this way.”

Mr McGrath also expressed his disappointment. “We weren’t going to belittle ourselves by going down to him. . . He’s been in before and we treated him civilly.”

The Fianna Fáil parliamentary party meeting is also scheduled for today at 2.30pm. However, Mr McGuinness is thought unlikely to get support for his call for Taoiseach Brian Cowen to step down.

rowa

This is pretty similar to the hunting ban in england by the labour party , they threw hunting with hounds to the looney left in the party in return for supporting the unpopular (and probabily illegal) rush to war in iraq .
And now cowen has given this band of upper middle class tree hugging lentil munchers the same deal to keep him and his cronies in power a small while longer, is there no end to the damage they're doing ? first the gun licence/pistol ban f**k-up and now this.

Grizzly 45

Maybe we should start asking ourselves what are we going to do about it??rather than bitching & moaning about it to ourselves in Irish life in general.Was over on the Continent last week and had a chat with a Greek fellow who runs a resturant in Germany.He said he is amazed that the Irish people are not on the streets protesting and rioting.By and large the Greek Govt is as thick necked as our lot,but even there they have had to start backing up and climbing of their arrogance abit when it got ugly on the streets of Athens.
As for arrogance ,well could anyone beat Gormless Gormley's comment on the RISE demo???

270WIN

Fianna Fail are selling out on their own members, the greens are in a minority and the only ones to stop this ban is FF. they are gutless the lot of them...if they only stood up to the greens they would get massive support back in rural ireland