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Is sign language international..?

  • 28-03-2010 3:01am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭


    This has often got me thinking and wandering... genuine quandery here...
    is sign language international? For example could a deaf Icelandic person use sign to communicate with a Nigerian deaf person? or is it similar to different languages?? ? this is one of those things that have annoyed me for years and i thought maybe the good people of AH might enlighten me on this...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    I dont think it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    I'm sure I've heard the term "American sign language" so I doubt there's a universal sign language.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    My mam had to learn it awhile ago, pretty sure it isn't

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Relationships with other sign languages
    Although the United Kingdom and the United States share English as the predominant spoken language, British Sign Language is quite distinct from American Sign Language (ASL). BSL fingerspelling is also different from ASL, as it uses two hands whereas ASL uses one. BSL is also distinct from Irish Sign Language (ISL) (ISG in the ISO system) which is more closely related to French Sign Language (LSF) and ASL.

    It is also distinct from Signed English, a manually coded method expressed to represent the English language.

    The sign languages used in Australia and New Zealand, Auslan and New Zealand Sign Language, respectively, evolved largely from 19th century BSL, and all retain the same manual alphabet, grammar, and similar lexicon. These three languages may technically be considered dialects of a single language (BANZSL) due to their use of the same grammar, manual alphabet, and the high degree of lexical sharing (overlap of signs). The term BANZSL was coined by Trevor Johnston [1] and Adam Schembri.

    In Australia deaf schools were established by educated deaf people from London, Edinburgh and Dublin. This introduced the London and Edinburgh dialects of BSL to Melbourne and Sydney respectively and Irish Sign Language to Sydney in Roman Catholic schools for the deaf. The language contact post secondary education between Australian ISL users and 'Australian BSL' users accounts for some of the dialectal differences we see between modern BSL and Auslan. Tertiary education in the US for some deaf Australian adults also accounts for some ASL borrowings found in modern Auslan.

    Auslan, BSL and NZSL have 82% of signs identical (using concepts from a Swadesh list). When considering similar or related signs as well as identical, they are 98% cognate. By comparison, ASL and BANZSL have only 31% signs identical, or 44% cognate[2]. Further information will be available after the completion of the BSL corpus is completed and allows for comparison with the Auslan corpus and the Sociolinguistic Variation in New Zealand Sign Language project . There continues to be language contact between BSL, Auslan and NZSL through migration (deaf people and interpreters), the media (television programmes such as See Hear, Switched, Rush and SignPost are often recorded and shared informally in all three countries) and conferences (the World Federation of the Deaf Conference - WFD - in Brisbane 1999 saw many British deaf people travelling to Australia).

    Makaton, a communication system for people with cognitive impairments or other communication difficulties, was originally developed with signs borrowed from British Sign Language. The sign language used in Sri Lanka is also closely related to BSL despite the spoken language not being English, demonstrating the distance between sign languages and spoken ones.

    BSL users campaigned to have BSL recognised on a similar level to Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, and Irish. BSL was recognised as a language in its own right by the UK government on 18 March 2003, but it has no legal protection, so therefore is not an official language of the United Kingdom. There is however legislation requiring the provision of interpreters such as the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 and the Disability Discrimination Act 1995.


    deaf is not a country

    internet is brillaint tho i have deaf mates and mates in hospital taht i wouyld n=have had no idea how to meet and interact with with out it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭flanum


    so then, that would be mental.. having to learn past tense future tense etc... with your hands ... trying to get me head around this...........
    ..........awaits somebody qualified to answer this quandary!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    I dunno, but I always get a great laugh looking at the sign language people at the corner of the screen at this time of night when they're trying to keep up with a song, especially when I'm pissed.:D

    Seriously though, do they think that deaf peeps are all insomniacs or something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭InKonspikuou2


    There is an international sign language but is mostly used at conventions and worldly meetings. What most deaf people in various countries changes just as much as spoken language. Just as there are differences in the English or spanish etc language throughout the speaking countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    flanum wrote: »
    This has often got me thinking and wandering... genuine quandery here...
    is sign language international? For example could a deaf Icelandic person use sign to communicate with a Nigerian deaf person? or is it similar to different languages?? ? this is one of those things that have annoyed me for years and i thought maybe the good people of AH might enlighten me on this...

    flanum.

    I will reopen this thread when you give me the reason why you picked those two nationalities.


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