ideal section set up

slapper2

this comes for a few other threads i've seen around and even conversations i've had too


wats your ideal section set up
9 lads all round use so must be ready for anything



FSG
is as it is with the gpmg for one and two
2 ic should have an fn for longer range but precise shooting but all so be armed with a pistol for CQB (down side to the lenght)

assault group should have a LMG (bren mk4,minime or the likes)
2 x m 203 launchers
I/C M4 with a few bits and pieces
radio man standard riffle of choice
and finally the remaining man should have a drum mag fitted to his riffle angain of choice


section carries 2 types of ammo so it wont make a difference be it 7.62 or 5.56
the only new thing is a little 9 mm but the I/C takes that hims self



wats your opinions and likes and dislikes
or would you like to see 10 men sections again or drop to 8 man sections

iceage

Slapper2 your not mates with Avgas by any chance are you? Sounds like some of the things I read over on the Airsoft threads. thanks for the mention of the bren though, brings back fond memories.

ex_infantry man

and fn! ! jaysus could ya not have went for a more modern weapon? ?

Steyr

ex_infantry man wrote: »

and fn! ! jaysus could ya not have went for a more modern weapon? ?

Never mind modern its FN all the way when you ABSOLUTELY have to kill everything from a Distance!!!:D

Steyr

iceage wrote: »

thanks for the mention of the bren though, brings back fond memories.

Ditto.:) Actually liked it more than the GPMG.

Avgas

Good OP Slapper2.

I've raised something similar in the carnage that passes for a thread I'm
responsible for starting.

For the record:
Please do not insult Slapper2 by suggesting he is chums with me. His post has an overlap that's all-been also raised or implied in others.

Also I don't airsoft/paintball or whatever.
And I don't wargame or PC game either as HK suggested prior.

Here's what I do like to read and its relevant to Slapper2's concerns. From a BA officer circa 2007: "Improving the capabilities of the section from a British perspective. Some interesting views, especially on weight.

http://www.rusi.org/downloads/assets/Bain,_The_Infantry_Section.pdf

Your friendly AVgas.

iceage

Easy tiger...I wasn't having a pop at Slapper2. As an afterthought, welcome to the forums.

Oh, and check that link/post. All of them should be carrying a bayonet. Cos the fuzzies they don't like it up em, no they they don't like it up em! :P

iceage

Don't know bout you lot but I'm off on the P!SS!!! I expext a full report on my desk in the morning you lot. Toodles.:p

Avgas

Enjoy your tipple Iceman, old chap. Didn't mean to be sharpish with you.

Wish I could serve my country the same way right now...BUT.....
I am otherwise occupied.

Yes the RUSI chappies are rather a rum lot and take it all seriously...what....rather old boy?

Its a bit of Biggles and a bit of Buck Rogers. However, we could do with a bit of it maybe?

BTW the fuzzies have considerably moved on since the days of Rourke's Drift..(but you know that...).

Those blighters the Hezbullocks cut rather a dash with this item in 2006 I believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:9M133_Kornet.JPG

Won't get away with bull's wool and bolt actions out there anymore.

Av'n'the-gas.

slapper2

iceage wrote: »

Slapper2 your not mates with Avgas by any chance are you? Sounds like some of the things I read over on the Airsoft threads. thanks for the mention of the bren though, brings back fond memories.

dont think so ,well not online anyway
but at the same time this conversation has probily been had in most fca units

ex_infantry man wrote: »

and fn! ! jaysus could ya not have went for a more modern weapon? ?

no sure the ak is older and still one of the most popular weapons around mount a decent sight on the fn and you have a savage weapon to fire from distance

Steyr wrote: »

Never mind modern its FN all the way when you ABSOLUTELY have to kill everything from a Distance!!!:D

my mentality is your FSG drops fire support and they are tumping rounds down range with the gpmg so why not give the 2 i/c the chance to take more acurate shots form there too tis hard to bring the gpmg to bere on one little oppotunity tarrget mid fire where as the 2 i/c should really be blasting away anyway this just gives him better accuracy

punchdrunk

coming at it from a football perspective i'd say the classic

4-4-2

two sections of four men

and a fireteam of two with the GPMG,but don't burden these two with any other rilfes,just a handgun each for self defense

first section

NCO
rifleman
radioman
rifleman with 40mm UGL

second section

2 i/c
rifleman
marksman with a 7.62 DMR
gunner with a 5.56 minimi

c-90

maybe a little off topic but, i was wondering why the irish defence forces hasnt adopted the 8 man section with 2 fire teams like the british and americans have?


and which is better, the 9 man way with a dedicated fsg and manouver group or the 8 man way with two flexible fire teams.

concussion

Probably because we're based on a light infantry model - if we were deploying from IFV's we would have support from the vehicle and consequently less requirement for an FSG. Space inside the vehicle is also a concern - our Mowags are roomier than most but they're used as APC's and armed with 0.5's. Most IFV's have a 25 or 30 mm cannon whose ammo takes up more room.