What "good" carbs do people eat ?

Sosa

And i dont mean when your carb loading for a race...just as part of your general diet.

I eat bagels,cream crackers,bread,cereal as snacks.
Plenty of potatoes,pasta for dinners ( not so much rice)
Off lent i eat loads of jaffa cakes...very high in carbs
Fig rolls i see are high in carbs and low in fat,must get some of those for after lent.

What im looking for is "good" carbs for snacks mainly...
Stuff high in carbs and not to fatty...

Im not great for fruit.
I try eat a banana a day and an apple every other,but thats about it.

Suggestions......Suggestions

Thanks

Krusty_Clown

Porridge for brekkie.
Pretzels and Bread sticks. Crunchy, tasty, very low in fat.
Lots of fruit.
Couscous, brown rice, sweet potatoe, lots of vegetables.
Alcohol free weis beer.

bart simpson

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Porridge for brekkie.
Pretzels and Bread sticks. Crunchy, tasty, very low in fat.
Lots of fruit.
Couscous, brown rice, sweet potatoe, lots of vegetables.
Alcohol free weis beer.

that was something i wondered, is beer full of good carbs?...:) okay we know the alcohol isnt the best but is the rest high carb cereal juice?:)

Aimman

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Porridge for brekkie.
Pretzels and Bread sticks. Crunchy, tasty, very low in fat.
Lots of fruit.
Couscous, brown rice, sweet potatoe, lots of vegetables.
Alcohol free weis beer.

You cant have Alcohol Free Weis beer, takes the fun out of it, like Decaffinated Coffee and Tantric Sex! lol. Anyway, the Proper Weis Beer is lovely and cloudy, so I convince myself its all the carbs swimming around. The more I drink, the more carbs I convince myself I get, and for some reason, the better I feel too, lol. I can only drink so much Alcohol Free Eirdinger before my body realises it's being conned (usually after the first sip:D)

When you say Pretzels, do you mean the fresh big bread type or the small twigglet type ones that are like beer sticks (opps, back the beer again)

BeepBeep67

For a snack - Rice Cakes or Bagels with Peanut Butter or Nutella.
Porridge of course and Lentils, which can be cooked a zillion ways.

Aimman

bart simpson wrote: »

that was something i wondered, is beer full of good carbs?...:) okay we know the alcohol isnt the best but is the rest high carb cereal juice?:)

The Weisbeir is brewed to the Bavarian Purity Laws which only allow for 4 ingredients. No artifical colourings, flavourings or preservatives. It's better for your system then knocking back most of the usual beers around the place, plus you are less likely to have a hangover the next day, cos there are no chemicals to mess whit your system.

The races in Germany usually promote Alcohol Free Eirdinger as a post race refreshment. Imagine my delight when I seen the big Eirdinger stand at the Berlin Expo. Carlsberg dont do Marathons, But Eirdinger do!!!!

Krusty_Clown

Aimman wrote: »

You cant have Alcohol Free Weis beer, takes the fun out of it, like Decaffinated Coffee and Tantric Sex! lol. Anyway, the Proper Weis Beer is lovely and cloudy, so I convince myself its all the carbs swimming around. The more I drink, the more carbs I convince myself I get, and for some reason, the better I feel too, lol. I can only drink so much Alcohol Free Eirdinger before my body realises it's being conned (usually after the first sip:D)

When you say Pretzels, do you mean the fresh big bread type or the small twigglet type ones that are like beer sticks (opps, back the beer again)

I love the alcohol variety too, but I've found that giving up the beer for 4 weeks before the marathon helps me lose 5-6 pounds. Even alcohol-free Weis beer is better than no Weis beer at all! Paulaner alkoholfrei is actually a lot better than Erdinger.

Big pretzels would be great, but you can't seem to get them anywhere in this country. LIDL sells 'salt sticks' which are basically really thin beer pretzel sticks, are quite tasty, and have the right composition (high carbs, low fat). Like breadsticks, they're a handy snack food. I always have a bagel with nutella in work on run days, so I can skip dinner until after the run.

yop

Do u find that the bagel and nutella good pre run? Not too high on fat then is it?

Krusty_Clown

It's great for the run. The bagel is low on fat and gives you slow release carbs. The Nutella is higher on fat, but gives you quicker release carbs (and is tasty!).

Generally I'd eat it an hour or more before my run (in work, before the commute home). I've found that for mid-week sessions, I can focus on the run more, without having energy or hunger concerns. For recovery runs, I wouldn't generally bother (but am getting used to my afternoon tasty treat!).

griffin100

eeehhh..I've just had two freshly cooked jam doughnuts for breakfast....for the fourth day in a row......does that count as good carbs?

It's ok though, I'm training for an IM so I can eat whatever I like...can't I?

tunney

Sosa wrote: »

And i dont mean when your carb loading for a race...just as part of your general diet.

I eat bagels,cream crackers,bread,cereal as snacks.
Plenty of potatoes,pasta for dinners ( not so much rice)
Off lent i eat loads of jaffa cakes...very high in carbs
Fig rolls i see are high in carbs and low in fat,must get some of those for after lent.

What im looking for is "good" carbs for snacks mainly...
Stuff high in carbs and not to fatty...

Im not great for fruit.
I try eat a banana a day and an apple every other,but thats about it.

Suggestions......Suggestions

Thanks

I won't be so worried about "good carbs" and "bad carbs" and more concerned with "terrible diet".

Clum

In the last 17 days I've eaten the likes of:

Bacon McMuffin breakfast.....x2....on the same morning
Irish breakfast....x3....on different mornings
Indian takeaway......x2....different days
Burger and chips....from various establishments.....often on same day
Chicago Town Take Away Pizza......x4.....on different days though
Subway 12 inch subs.....x2....in same sitting
Chocolate and crisps...bags and bags of....often on same day
Other non-marathon friendly foods....yes, plenty.
Beer....oh yeah!
Pasta....zero

But, I have to admit, it's been 17 days since I ran a marathon so I'm splurging. As of next Monday the diet starts again while I knuckle down to Ironman training and the diet will be none of the above and loads of healthy, homemade pasta dishes, rice dishes, rissotto, noodles, bagels, etc etc...the joys...

tunney

griffin100 wrote: »

eeehhh..I've just had two freshly cooked jam doughnuts for breakfast....for the fourth day in a row......does that count as good carbs?

It's ok though, I'm training for an IM so I can eat whatever I like...can't I?

Far far far from it.

CHO:Fat usage is what IM is all about. The highest power you can produce at <a particular figure> per minute is the best you can do on the bike and not walk the run.

High GI foods screw with that ratio.

Sosa

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

It's great for the run. The bagel is low on fat and gives you slow release carbs. The Nutella is higher on fat, but gives you quicker release carbs (and is tasty!).

Generally I'd eat it an hour or more before my run (in work, before the commute home). I've found that for mid-week sessions, I can focus on the run more, without having energy or hunger concerns. For recovery runs, I wouldn't generally bother (but am getting used to my afternoon tasty treat!).

I am a big fan of the bagels.
I get them in tesco...cinnamon and raisen...with jam or nutella.

Ol' Donie

tunney wrote: »

I won't be so worried about "good carbs" and "bad carbs" and more concerned with "terrible diet".

Woah, really? Whats so terrible about it?

tunney

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Woah, really? Whats so terrible about it?

Low in protein, no fruit, no veg.
high sugar content, high GI.
avoiding fat (fats are good as long as they are good fats).

Sosa

tunney wrote: »

Low in protein, no fruit, no veg.
high sugar content, high GI.
avoiding fat (fats are good as long as they are good fats).

Maybe i should have named it "good fats" then.

So,what foods do you eat that are good fats ?

I eat plenty of veg,i plan to eat more fruit.

Thanks

Hooked

Hey all, can I please jump on the band wagon and ask...

If a stir fry with low fat noodles made with 1 pork chop/OR chicken breast/ OR piece of steak - and 10 (yes 10) types of veg is a "healthy" option. Pros? Cons?

FYI
I eat porridge for brekkie with a spoonful of jam.
Get my apple, orange and grapes every day with 2L water (4L on run days)
Have dinner (mostly stir frys) at 1pm every day and run every second evening... If I get "snacky" it's usually peanut butter on yeast free soda bread...

So is the stir fry (and the frequency of it) good for me?

Cheers all...

tunney

Sosa wrote: »

Maybe i should have named it "good fats" then.

So,what foods do you eat that are good fats ?

I eat plenty of veg,i plan to eat more fruit.

Thanks

Almonds, brazil buts, walnuts.
Pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds.
Any nuts and seeds except hazelnuts cause they make me puke.
100% peanut butter on rice cakes, or sometimes just on a spoon

Yoghurts, cheese to a lesser extent.

They would be my snacks along with oodles of fruit.

Krusty_Clown

I now start my day with: Porridge with low-fat milk, with sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, honey and cinnamon. I don't think you'd need to eat for the rest of the day after a bowl! I do follow it up with two strong cups of coffee though, but everyone's gotta have their vices.

hooked: It sounds healthy, but why would you want to eat low fat noodles? Aren't they already low-fat? It really depends on what you add to the stir fry (sauces etc). Mine would usually be ginger, garlic, small amount of soy sauce, Shao xing (Chinese rice wine), lime, Hoi Sin, Chilli sauce that kind of thing. Just watch the sugar and salt. Obviously excluding the above flavourings would be better for you, but tasteless food is worse than non-alcoholic beer. Avoid jars.

Seres

why am i reading this thread now ?! brought wrong lunch today , opened the box to baby bel , little star yoghurt and crackers , have ended up eating taytos ( hunky dorys , so bad, 14.3g fat in 45g bag (33% :eek:) as the sandwich i bought was gross so i chucked it , wont go for the choc bar now , guilt setting in !

metamorphosis

Porridge/weetabix/shredded wheat

ryvita or those who don't handle too much fiber well - the rice cake. Personal fave smash a banana on a rice cake and then smother with cottage cheese, nut butter and then xylitol sweetened jam.

fruit - banana/pineapple/berries/apple/pear. Any really.

Natural or greek yogurt (fage do a great greek yogurt. 9gms protein per 100gms)

Wholegrain rice

Root vegtibles.

Rice milk.

Nuts and seeds - cashews, brazils and almonds in particular.

Cartman78

tunney wrote: »

Almonds, brazil buts, walnuts.
Pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds.
Any nuts and seeds except hazelnuts cause they make me puke.
100% peanut butter on rice cakes, or sometimes just on a spoon

Yoghurts, cheese to a lesser extent.

They would be my snacks along with oodles of fruit.

This pretty much sums up my diet too. I actually make my own bars based on oats,nuts,seeds and granola. Goes down well with rooibos tea. Work colleagues can't understand how/why I eat so much fruit and nuts, and why I nearly always turn down the endless birthday cakes etc. in the office. To avoid hassle now, I normally take a slice and slip in into the bin when nobody is looking.

On a semi-related topic - would be interested to hear people's views on iron supplements and amino acids. I take iron sachets 2-3 times a week. Doing a marathon in early May, so will be taking amino acids daily from next week too

nomadic

My breakfast at the minute is :
One weetabix crunched up
layer of porridge
Another 2 weetabix
Topped off with home made grenola (Pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, linseed, brasil nuts, almonds, coconut and oats with honey. Yum!)

I always eat a big bowl of rice with a tin of tuna every day aswell.

tunney

Cartman78 wrote: »

This pretty much sums up my diet too. I actually make my own bars based on oats,nuts,seeds and granola. Goes down well with rooibos tea. Work colleagues can't understand how/why I eat so much fruit and nuts, and why I nearly always turn down the endless birthday cakes etc. in the office. To avoid hassle now, I normally take a slice and slip in into the bin when nobody is looking.

On a semi-related topic - would be interested to hear people's views on iron supplements and amino acids. I take iron sachets 2-3 times a week. Doing a marathon in early May, so will be taking amino acids daily from next week too

Aminos acids? As in BCAAs, I used to take them and alot of place recommend them. However the AIS doesn't rate them and that in itself may put me off taking them again.

Iron? I would only take it if recommended by a doctor. i used to occasionaly take it however I stopped once I was explained to the risks of blood that is too iron rich and how common this disorder is in Irish people. (Without it I still ended up and a HCt of 52 and HGB of 19 so its not really required and a good diet will supply all you need)

tunney

nomadic wrote: »

My breakfast at the minute is :
One weetabix crunched up
layer of porridge
Another 2 weetabix
Topped off with home made grenola (Pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, linseed, brasil nuts, almonds, coconut and oats with honey. Yum!)

I always eat a big bowl of rice with a tin of tuna every day aswell.

High GI breakfast. Weetabix is a treat not a breakfast. Honey too, better than jam or sugar but I was advised to avoid and use as a treat (not saying i have or ever had a clean diet but I did get all the advice)

shels4ever

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Mine would usually be ginger, garlic, small amount of soy sauce, Shao xing (Chinese rice wine), lime, Hoi Sin, Chilli sauce that kind of thing. Just watch the sugar and salt.

Bang a little oyster sauce in there too and your almost there, i dont bother with sugar at all,

nomadic

tunney wrote: »

High GI breakfast. Weetabix is a treat not a breakfast. Honey too, better than jam or sugar but I was advised to avoid and use as a treat (not saying i have or ever had a clean diet but I did get all the advice)

So replace the weetabix with porridge? I've only started using the grenola to replace sugar so i'll stick with that.

metamorphosis

nomadic wrote: »

So replace the weetabix with porridge? I've only started using the grenola to replace sugar so i'll stick with that.

oats, you could sweeten with xylitol if you still felt the need to have it sweeter. Keep the nuts. I like to put some nut butter in their to melt or creamed coconut too. Nyom

Cartman78

nomadic wrote: »

My breakfast at the minute is :
One weetabix crunched up
layer of porridge
Another 2 weetabix
Topped off with home made grenola (Pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, linseed, brasil nuts, almonds, coconut and oats with honey. Yum!)

I always eat a big bowl of rice with a tin of tuna every day aswell.

Plenty of roughage in that breakfast Like the sound of that homemade granola - might have a look in the press later on and see if can rumble up something similar - maybe a few raisins or dried apricots/cranberries might vary the texture too?

I'm guessing you have cold rice with the tuna? I'd recommed whole-grain cous-cous or bulgar as a good sub for the rice for a bit of a change

Sub430

Off topic but am I the only one who HATES porridge? Smelly, gloopy, gooey..bleugh,yuck. I tried it again recently with fruit and other masking ingredients but the texture is just all wrong - it's the only food I dread which is unfortunate as I know it's good for me.

It reminds me of those two weeks in the Cub Scouts.

Shredded wheat, low fat milk and fresh fruit all the way for me.

aero2k

tunney wrote: »

HCt of 52

Don't worry, someone from the UCI will be along shortly to tell you to have a rest for "health reasons" (i.e. nothing to do with taking EPO)

Seriously, I thought anything above 46 or so was very rare.

aero2k

On topic: Boiled potatoes, rice, pasta. Some fruit every day.

I also eat too much bread (with jam, marmalade or honey) , biscuits and chocolates, and refined sugar in general. I'm trying to reduce gradually.

I don't avoid fats - I like cheese and nuts (not together).

Someone told me cornflakes have the most CHO per 100g - not sure if it's true.

How Strange

Sub430 wrote: »

Off topic but am I the only one who HATES porridge? Smelly, gloopy, gooey..bleugh,yuck. I tried it again recently with fruit and other masking ingredients but the texture is just all wrong - it's the only food I dread which is unfortunate as I know it's good for me.

Me too. It's the consistency I hate. Even the thought of it makes me wretch.

LCD

"Work colleagues can't understand how/why I eat so much fruit and nuts, and why I nearly always turn down the endless birthday cakes etc. in the office. To avoid hassle now, I normally take a slice and slip in into the bin when nobody is looking".

Just say no & dont give in to peer pressure. No need to waste food, someone else might have enjoyed that slice!

Cartman78

Is old school pre-race carb-loading (ie. eating buckets of pasta 2-3 days before a marathon) still in vogue with anyone?

Tried this before my 1st marathon 7yrs ago and remember feeling well stodgy on raceday morning. Haven't done it since

tunney

aero2k wrote: »

Don't worry, someone from the UCI will be along shortly to tell you to have a rest for "health reasons" (i.e. nothing to do with taking EPO)

Seriously, I thought anything above 46 or so was very rare.

So had I but turns out not to be *that* uncommon.

tunney

aero2k wrote: »

On topic: Boiled potatoes, rice, pasta. Some fruit every day.

I also eat too much bread (with jam, marmalade or honey) , biscuits and chocolates, and refined sugar in general. I'm trying to reduce gradually.

I don't avoid fats - I like cheese and nuts (not together).

Someone told me cornflakes have the most CHO per 100g - not sure if it's true.

Emmmm cheesy nuts - got to try that one. Almoinds in cheddar......

nomadic

Cartman78 wrote: »

Plenty of roughage in that breakfast Like the sound of that homemade granola - might have a look in the press later on and see if can rumble up something similar - maybe a few raisins or dried apricots/cranberries might vary the texture too?

I'm guessing you have cold rice with the tuna? I'd recommed whole-grain cous-cous or bulgar as a good sub for the rice for a bit of a change

I hate dried fruit so that's a no go. I blend up the seeds and nuts then mix it all together and bang it in the oven for half an hourish. The problem is everyone else in the house loves it so I seem to be making it a lot. The rice is warm. I love the stuff. Sometimes bang it into a wrap with mayo.

Sub430 wrote: »

Off topic but am I the only one who HATES porridge? Smelly, gloopy, gooey..bleugh,yuck. I tried it again recently with fruit and other masking ingredients but the texture is just all wrong - it's the only food I dread which is unfortunate as I know it's good for me.

I hate the consistency of cooked porridge but I just eat it "dry". Just bang some milk on it and away you go before it turns to slop.

menoscemo

Cartman78 wrote: »

Is old school pre-race carb-loading (ie. eating buckets of pasta 2-3 days before a marathon) still in vogue with anyone?

Tried this before my 1st marathon 7yrs ago and remember feeling well stodgy on raceday morning. Haven't done it since

I am the same as you. If I ever do a marathon again, I will not be carbo loading.

kennyb3

tunney wrote: »

Iron? I would only take it if recommended by a doctor. i used to occasionaly take it however I stopped once I was explained to the risks of blood that is too iron rich and how common this disorder is in Irish people.

Care to expand?

mloc123

kennyb3 wrote: »

Care to expand?

Heart attack risk I think. Was once quite common, maybe still is in Ireland because of our dependency on beef.

tunney

kennyb3 wrote: »

Care to expand?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_overload

pgmcpq

tunney wrote: »

High GI breakfast. Weetabix is a treat not a breakfast. Honey too, better than jam or sugar but I was advised to avoid and use as a treat (not saying i have or ever had a clean diet but I did get all the advice)

Yikes !

Weetabix ? Really. I had just returned to this occasionally after many years. It's got a high GI index - higher than oatmeal I understand but I would have though it was still a pretty reasonable choice ?

Honey is better than jam ? Is it that it has less sugar ?

Woundedknee.

kennyb3 wrote: »

Care to expand?

Haemochromatosis