Web Piracy Costs Europe a Million Jobs

Winty

Internet piracy is costing billions in lost revenue and hundreds of thousands of jobs in the European Union, according to a study published by Paris-based TERA Consultants.

The study, entitled “Building a Digital Economy: The Importance of Saving Jobs in the EU’s Creative Industries,” looked at piracy in Europe's music, film, television, and software industries and concluded that up to $327 billion and 1 million jobs in the EU could be lost over the next five years.
The biggest piracy culprits were identified as individuals who illegally download film, TV series, recorded music, and software using “peer-to-peer” services.


Does this sound silly to anyone else, really 1 Million jobs lost?
1 Million is a big number

http://www.teraconsultants.fr/assets/publications/PDF/2010-Mars-Etude_Piratage_TERA_full_report-En.pdf

Stercus Accidit

Sounds like utter arse, and I'm confident in saying that given the nature of the media industry and its behaviour.

GLaDOS

Winty wrote: »

billion and 1 million jobs in the EU could be lost over the next five years.

Key word

seanybiker

1 million jobs me hole. Dont mind them eegits.

Delta Kilo

I dont think that is accurate at all.

Like, I know for a fact i wouldnt have half as much music if I was paying for it. I just have it because I can get it, if it had to be bought, i just wouldnt buy it, end of. I think lots of people, especially young people, are the same.

So they are coming up with figures for a market that doesnt exist really

ejmaztec

They're probably losing what it would cost to employ a million people, so the robbers must be trying a bit of spin to make them look like social workers.

amacachi

Bull****, I've never downloaded something that I would've paid for otherwise, however there have been times I've bought stuff having downloaded related things.

But hey, why let facts get in the way?

R0ot

http://copyleftist.org/images/s92cartoon-bw.png

nuff said. :pac:

alexlyons

Delta Kilo wrote: »

I dont think that is accurate at all.

Like, I know for a fact i wouldnt have half as much music if I was paying for it. I just have it because I can get it, if it had to be bought, i just wouldnt buy it, end of. I think lots of people, especially young people, are the same.

So they are coming up with figures for a market that doesnt exist really

correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that admitting to a criminal offense and technically prosecutable?

starbelgrade

Winty wrote: »

Does this sound silly to anyone else, really 1 Million jobs lost?
1 Million is a big number

Not as big as one million and one.

Augmerson

Winty wrote: »

Internet piracy is costing billions in lost revenue and hundreds of thousands of jobs in the European Union, according to a study published by Paris-based TERA Consultants.

The study, entitled “Building a Digital Economy: The Importance of Saving Jobs in the EU’s Creative Industries,” looked at piracy in Europe's music, film, television, and software industries and concluded that up to $327 billion and 1 million jobs in the EU could be lost over the next five years.
The biggest piracy culprits were identified as individuals who illegally download film, TV series, recorded music, and software using “peer-to-peer” services.


Does this sound silly to anyone else, really 1 Million jobs lost?
1 Million is a big number

http://www.teraconsultants.fr/assets/publications/PDF/2010-Mars-Etude_Piratage_TERA_full_report-En.pdf

Yeah right. Some study is published by some private research group of whom we know nothing about tells us that a million jobs COULD be lost over the next 5 years. How did they come to this statistic? How can they prove what jobs are going to be lost in the middle of the worst recession since the depression? ****ing retarded.

sock puppet

amacachi wrote: »

Bull****, I've never downloaded something that I would've paid for otherwise, however there have been times I've bought stuff having downloaded related things.

But hey, why let facts get in the way?

You mean why let an anecdote get in the way? I'm not going to get on a high horse as I've downloaded stuff before, but I don't try and pretend that what I do is right or ethical. It does cost the industry money.

weeder

If i like a band enough I will go and see them,probabaly paying a high price to get in, then whilst im in there ill probabaly end up buying a cd and an overpriced tshirt, the artist still gets my money even though i may not pay for their music.

Healium

Yeah, and 25,000 people illegally-downloaded Aslan's latest covers album.... :rolleyes:

Rented Mule

Damn Somalians !!

Danbo!

Is anyone else sick to death of these "studies" that churn out ****e statistics for no reason? Who are these people, and who is paying them to come up the results?

Mister men

A million :eek:.

RayM

This reminds me of the bullshit about "absenteeism in the workplace" costing €1bn (or €1.5 or €700m, depending on which lobby group you ask) per year.

mikom

Winty wrote: »

Internet piracy is costing billions in lost revenue and hundreds of thousands of jobs in the European Union, according to a study published by Paris-based TERA Consultants.

The study, entitled “Building a Digital Economy: The Importance of Saving Jobs in the EU’s Creative Industries,” looked at piracy in Europe's music, film, television, and software industries and concluded that up to $327 billion and 1 million jobs in the EU could be lost over the next five years.
The biggest piracy culprits were identified as individuals who illegally download film, TV series, recorded music, and software using “peer-to-peer” services.

No mention of all the jobs Rapidshare have created.....

Corkfeen

I thought the music industry died in the 80s because of people recording casettes illegal. These may be the most unrealistic statistics yet.

stepbar

They make the assumption I'd want to buy the sh1te in the first place :rolleyes:

El Weirdo

Can't talk. Downloading.

mikom

El Weirdo wrote: »

Can't talk. Downloading.

You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a torrent.

bonerm

On the plus side those 1million will have lots of free movies to watch on their days off.

cocoa

those are some well paid jobs! even if they're counting a billion as a thousand million, that's a very nice salary...

Nodin

Winty wrote: »

Internet piracy is costing billions in lost revenue and hundreds of thousands of jobs in the European Union, according to a study published by Paris-based TERA Consultants.

The study, entitled “Building a Digital Economy: The Importance of Saving Jobs in the EU’s Creative Industries,” looked at piracy in Europe's music, film, television, and software industries and concluded that up to $327 billion and 1 million jobs in the EU could be lost over the next five years.
The biggest piracy culprits were identified as individuals who illegally download film, TV series, recorded music, and software using “peer-to-peer” services.


Does this sound silly to anyone else, really 1 Million jobs lost?
1 Million is a big number

http://www.teraconsultants.fr/assets/publications/PDF/2010-Mars-Etude_Piratage_TERA_full_report-En.pdf

....but I thought home taping killed the music industry decades ago....

El Weirdo

Nodin wrote: »

....but I thought home taping killed the music industry decades ago....

So did these two:

R0ot wrote: »

http://copyleftist.org/images/s92cartoon-bw.png

nuff said. :pac:

Corkfeen wrote: »

I thought the music industry died in the 80s because of people recording casettes illegal. These may be the most unrealistic statistics yet.

bonerm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI

Don't copy that .... erm DVD or CD etc

(proof that black rappers can be just as lame as white ones)

amacachi

sock puppet wrote: »

You mean why let an anecdote get in the way? I'm not going to get on a high horse as I've downloaded stuff before, but I don't try and pretend that what I do is right or ethical. It does cost the industry money.

I've not cost them a cent and personally have made them money they wouldn't have gotten but for illegal downloading. I know that's not always the case, but I'm not feeling guilty.

blubloblu

Contrast commisioned study by obscure firm to independent research carried out by established universities which say pirates buy more music etc. than landlubbers.

bonerm

blubloblu wrote: »

Contrast commisioned study by obscure firm to independent research carried out by established universities which say pirates buy more music etc. than landlubbers.

*Ssssssh!* Talk like that doesn't make for good copy. Same as trying to tell a positive drug-use story.

IvySlayer

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!

Pauleta

This doesnt take into account the amount of jobs created by selling on all these downloads and the extra money in peoples pocket that they can invest into other industries

5starpool

I don't download stuff from peer to peer. That is so last decade, loike. I can say with a huge degree of cetainty though, that just because something is illegally downloaded does not mean that it would have been paid for otherwise, as this is just horsecrap.

I don't know what the amount that would have been paid for would be, but I would imagine it is around the 5% mark, tbh.

Dotsie~tmp

I downloaded Shutter Island last night. They should have paid me for watching that fukin sheeite.

squod

Dotsie~tmp wrote: »

I downloaded Shutter Island last night. They should have paid me for watching that fukin sheeite.

Shitter Island

I downloaded Shutter Island last night. They should have paid me for watching that fukin sheeite

Calibos

Its like they are looking at the 5000 songs the average person has in their downloaded section, divided it by 12 to get the number of albums and multiplied that by the current average cost of an album and multiply that by the number of downloaders to arrive at their 300billion loses to the music industry figure.

But like others have said its not like we all had gigantic physical media collections filling their house like yer man from High Fidelity before the internet or would have 'paid for' house filling physical media collections if we stopped downloading. If there was no downloading the average person would have the same size collection as the average person pre-internet. ie a shelf or two of CD's. They haven't lost 5000 tracks worth of sales from each of us but thats the way they look at it. as others have said before and will say again, if anything it has increase sales because now you can try before you buy whereas before we always used to only spend our money on what we definately knew we liked.

banquo

If they'd get the finger out and release the film and tv rights over then this wouldn't be a problem. No video content over here for iTunes, netflix, etc.

indough

5starpool wrote: »

just because something is illegally downloaded does not mean that it would have been paid for otherwise, as this is just horsecrap.

that matters not, if you arent interested in paying for it then you arent supposed to use it

mikom

indough wrote: »

if you arent interested in paying for it then you arent supposed to use it

Ahh, the code of the prostitute.

minidazzler

alexlyons wrote: »

correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that admitting to a criminal offense and technically prosecutable?

No, copyright infringement is a CIVIL matter. You can still be prosecuted, but only for money, not jailtime!

It only becomes criminal if for money AFAIK, and in the US if for bartering and trading.