Curious About Commerce

summer2010

So I've been looking into the commerce course in NUIG.
I decided I'd pop on her and see if anyone could give me anymore info on it:
What are the hours like? (I don't want to spend a few thousand on accomedation for just a few hours of classes).
What are class sizes like?
I have not done accounting before, is it easy to pick up with a bit of hard work?
Can you get work after it, or is a post grad a must-do?

Any more information, or anthing at all related to the course would be very much appreciated!! :P

xoxo

pablodunlop

summer2010 wrote: »

I decided I'd pop on her

Pics???

dmcg90

summer2010 wrote: »

So I've been looking into the commerce course in NUIG.
I decided I'd pop on her and see if anyone could give me anymore info on it:
What are the hours like? (I don't want to spend a few thousand on accomedation for just a few hours of classes).
What are class sizes like?
I have not done accounting before, is it easy to pick up with a bit of hard work?
Can you get work after it, or is a post grad a must-do?

Any more information, or anthing at all related to the course would be very much appreciated!! :P

xoxo

I'm in second commerce here, hours were about 17 last year and 1t this year all spread over four days.

Classes can be very big because you're put in with other classes for some lectures (can be as high as 400 I think)

Accounting is quite hard but not impossible, just takes work like any other subject.

You would be able to get work but nearly everyone I talk to is going to do something after the degree.

Oh and if you do decide to take commerce, stay in corrib village

po0k

Or do a science or engineering degree instead.

narwog81

po0k wrote: »

Or do a science or engineering degree instead.

Why? what areas do you feel that these degrees are superior to commerce in?

job opportunities? standard of teaching?

just curious...

OP a commerce degree is what you make of it, a postgrad is not absolutely necessary but may be useful depending on what career path you choose. there are plenty of opportunities, especially if you take the economics or accounting streams.

I would consider a four year business degree which includes a work placement superior to a three year commerce one.

You could get a job direct from commerce but it is common to do some further study / training (post graduate diploma, masters, accounting or tax exams etc)

There aren't many hours if you want to coast through college but really you get out of it what you put into it.

Clemon

Its ****n ****e

summer2010

About time I got back to ye, thanks everybody for replying:

Deleted User wrote: »

I would consider a four year business degree which includes a work placement superior to a three year commerce one.

Would it be ok to do a few summer internships to make up for the lack of Co-Op, or would a Co-Op be snazzier looking on the CV?

Clemon wrote: »

Its ****n ****e

I likes me some honesty- hope this isn't a biast opinion!

dmcg90 wrote: »

I'm in second commerce here... Oh and if you do decide to take commerce, stay in corrib village

Aw sorry, I'm already booked into gort But I'm sure I'll go for a few strolls around corrib some night

pablodunlop wrote: »

Pics???

Oh sorry pablodunlop- I don't think you'll want to see pics with me and your mom... ZING!:rolleyes:

Thanks Guys,
xoxo

P.S. Keep posting if ye've more details/rants/recommendations!

summer2010

summer2010 wrote: »

Would it be ok to do a few summer internships to make up for the lack of Co-Op, or would a Co-Op be snazzier looking on the CV?

Voluntary self found internships would look better than an obligatory co-op in my opinion.

redarse

Im finished my degree 2 yeards ago and did the HR Stream, highly recommended. I still couldnt tell you what debit and credit are as I had never done and hopefully never will again do accounting again (dropped it after second year).

The HR stream, is beneficial as it gets your confidence up from the amount of presentations you have to do which will be invaluable to you when doing interviews etc.

Salaries of up to €70,000 per annum available with Masters in HR done also

qwytre

redarse wrote: »

Salaries of up to €70,000 per annum available with Masters in HR done also

Thats a bit misleading. Yes salaries of 70k+ are possible (in any career path) but only after a good few years experience and movement into management level. You would usually be talking about a minimum of 5 years experience and promotion to HR Manager level.

Just having a Masters won't get you the money.

redarse

qwytre wrote: »

Thats a bit misleading. Yes salaries of 70k+ are possible (in any career path) but only after a good few years experience and movement into management level. You would usually be talking about a minimum of 5 years experience and promotion to HR Manager level.

Just having a Masters won't get you the money.

From experience a class mate of mine walked into one of these positions (one year after the masters with little experience) with the above mentioned salary, I myself am employed with something similar as are the majority of my Masters Class, misleading.... maybe but VERY possible!

qwytre

redarse wrote: »

From experience a class mate of mine walked into one of these positions (one year after the masters with little experience) with the above mentioned salary, I myself are employed with something similar as are the majority of my Masters Class, misleading.... maybe but VERY possible!

Its not very possible, its very unusual. Check the salary surveys on the web.

I also know from experience what HR salaries are (for all levels) and getting 70k after just 1 years experience is the exception rather than the norm.

dmcg90

Seriously, its a good course but just make sure you want a 9-5 career a few years after it (w. masters etc) because if you have any doubts they will emerge after youve sat there doing a 14 hour day on an assignment... trust me on that one!

Are you talking about recruitment or HR?

It is very possible to make loads of money in recruitment when times are good and if you don't mind putting in the hours - the commissions will roll in.

I do know people who did this - they don't see themselves doing it long term as it is cutthroat and a young person's job.

A few lost their jobs during the recession.

If you go into a more traditional HR role in a comany you are less likley to make that money unless you are a director or something.

qwytre

Any half-brain could make very good money in recruitment during the Celtic Ireland era. It is a tough job though. I can't see why you would need a Masters in HR to do though. Its a salesman role.

summer2010

Good feedback guys
Besides the HR and Accounting routes- what other way could I swing with this course? Anybody who's done the course,, what kind of jobs are ye involved with?

I loves my thread

summer2010

Hey I just had another question to ask:

I've been researching Public Relations recently- as a possible career for the future, and was curious as to wheter the Commerce course in NUIG could lead to a career in PR or even to a masters in the subject?

Gaillimh10

summer2010 wrote: »

Good feedback guys
Besides the HR and Accounting routes- what other way could I swing with this course? Anybody who's done the course,, what kind of jobs are ye involved with?

I loves my thread

To be honest there is so much you can do!
Here are some people who did Commerce

Padraig O Ceidigh - Chairman of Aer Arann
Michael D Higgins T.D.
Margaret Sweeney -Chief Executive, Postbank Ireland Ltd
Irial Finan - Executive Vice President of The Coca-Cola Company and President of Bottling Investments
Hugh Friel - Former Boss of Kerry Group

Gaillimh10

summer2010 wrote: »

Hey I just had another question to ask:

I've been researching Public Relations recently- as a possible career for the future, and was curious as to wheter the Commerce course in NUIG could lead to a career in PR or even to a masters in the subject?

Yes definately. After Commerce you would be advised to do a postgrad in PR. But a commerce degree will give you the business basics you need in terms. These will be a big advantage when you go to work with clients in a PR agency. You will have a fully rounded business degree with a specialisation. You would be advised to take the Marketing specialisation in final year of the B Comm

_Gracieee

hey guys

I am also considering commerce this year in nuig. There's just a few questions I have

1. Is the course VERY maths based? I noticed that there are economics, accounting, and maths modules. Do you find yourself always doing maths?

2. Are there many tutorials? I prefer these to the huge lecture classes!

3. Do any of the modules cover communications? I think Id like to go into PR once i;ve finished the degree.

Thanks a mill!

lalalovely

I was once considering the commerce degree, but then I found B.I.S. (Business Information Systems).

Its defo a good one to check out - 4 years, small class sizes, your own lab for each year with key card access that only BIS have access to, lecturers that actually know who you are, possibility to study in America for a semester, paid work placement in 3rd year (work placement is not offered to Commerce students).

Most importantly, you get the mix of technology and business which is what most employers are looking for these days since everything is online.

People from this degree get jobs at loads of multinational companies, and I was very successful in the pursuit of a job this year (currently in my last year).

Seriously kicks Commerce's a** in my opinion!

LAVADUDE

1. Is the course VERY maths based? I noticed that there are economics, accounting, and maths modules. Do you find yourself always doing maths?

No, maths is no harder than leaving cert. ordinary level, the hardest thing you'll do is basic differentiation.
Here the exam paper from lasy years maths paper
https://www.mis.nuigalway.ie/papers_public/2009_2010/MA/2009_2010_MA114_1_1_2.PDF
Its quite an easy paper to do once you study for it. The exam questions usually stays the same but the numbers change so its also easy to prepare for
I've done accounting and it is not really a math based subject, as you only need to add, subtract, divide and multiply, rather its about knowing where the numbers go.

2. Are there many tutorials? I prefer these to the huge lecture classes!
Plenty of tutorials in first year, for every module but in second year they're reduced and limited to certain modules

3. Do any of the modules cover communications? I think Id like to go into PR once i;ve finished the degree.
There is no specialised communication but doing the marketing or Human Resource modules will be helpful