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U.S. Congress Passes Historic Health Care Reform

  • 22-03-2010 8:05pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/03/21/congress-passes-historic-health-care-reform/

    FTA:
    Rep. John B. Larson (D-CT), the Chairman of the Democratic Caucus in the U.S. House of Representatives writes that the top 10 immediate benefits of the bill will be:

    Prohibit pre-existing condition exclusions for children in all new plans;
    Provide immediate access to insurance for uninsured Americans who are uninsured because of a pre-existing condition through a temporary high-risk pool;
    Prohibit dropping people from coverage when they get sick in all individual plans;
    Lower seniors prescription drug prices by beginning to close the donut hole;
    Offer tax credits to small businesses to purchase coverage;
    Eliminate lifetime limits and restrictive annual limits on benefits in all plans;
    Require plans to cover an enrollee’s dependent children until age 26;
    Require new plans to cover preventive services and immunizations without cost-sharing;
    Ensure consumers have access to an effective internal and external appeals process to appeal new insurance plan decisions;
    Require premium rebates to enrollees from insurers with high administrative expenditures and require public disclosure of the percent of premiums applied to overhead costs.


    The health care reform expert Karoli adds:

    1.Adult children may remain as dependents on their parents’ policy until age 26
    2.Children under age 19 may not be excluded for pre-existing conditions
    3.No more lifetime or annual caps on coverage
    4.Free preventative care for all
    5.Adults with pre-existing conditions may buy into a national high-risk pool until the exchanges come online. While these will not be cheap, they’re still better than total exclusion and get some benefit from a wider pool of insureds.
    6.Small businesses will be entitled to a tax credit for 2009 and 2010, which could be as much as 50% of what they pay for employees’ health insurance.
    7.The “donut hole” closes for Medicare patients, making prescription medications more affordable for seniors.
    8.Requirement that all insurers must post their balance sheets on the Internet and fully disclose administrative costs, executive compensation packages, and benefit payments.
    9.Authorizes early funding of community health centers in all 50 states (Bernie Sanders’ amendment)

    A step in the right direction, might help the global reputation of the States improve a little bit.

    Whole article's worth a read, but I know you AHers have a short attention span.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    gave it a read there...


    Im sure the insurance companies will find some way to claw back whatever they lose... the big problem now is to get the price of the medicene itself down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,797 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    More importantly, Rush Limbaugh declared he'd leave the US if it passed:

    http://theweek.com/article/index/200639/Should_Rush_Limbaugh_leave_America


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    More importantly, Rush Limbaugh declared he'd leave the US if it passed:

    http://theweek.com/article/index/200639/Should_Rush_Limbaugh_leave_America
    Good riddance!
    Now lets hope he don't dump himself on our shores.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,797 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Biggins wrote: »
    Good riddance!
    Now lets hope he don't dump himself on our shores.

    I think his threat was to impose himself on the good folk of Costa Rica


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    I wish we could have a health care reform:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭PrettyBoy


    Great news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    Perhaps this is an opportunity to export Mary Harney???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,797 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    GaNjaHaN wrote: »
    Perhaps this is an opportunity to export Mary Harney???

    As what? Livestock?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    who gives a rats ass


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    liah wrote: »
    Whole article's worth a read, but I know you AHers have a short attention span.

    If ever a sentence could just pat you superciliously on the head....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    stovelid wrote: »
    If ever a sentence could just pat you superciliously on the head....

    Big...Word.... :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Yes but did Randy Neugebauer say "baby killer" or "it's a baby killer!"? :p



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,812 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    What the OP failed to mention is that all Americans must be enrolled in health care insurance provided by a for-profit insurance corporation, or suffer penalties? This is not socialized medicine, but rather capitalized medicine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    What the OP failed to mention is that all Americans must be enrolled in health care insurance provided by a for-profit insurance corporation, or suffer penalties? This is not socialized medicine, but rather capitalized medicine.

    It's a reform. It's a step in the right direction. They're not there yet, but they're working on it, which is a very, very good sign. I didn't "fail to mention" anything; it's still better than what it was.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    orourkeda wrote: »
    who gives a rats ass
    Cambodians apparently would.
    I hear they'd stick it between a bread roll!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    More importantly, Rush Limbaugh declared he'd leave the US if it passed:

    http://theweek.com/article/index/200639/Should_Rush_Limbaugh_leave_America
    Let's hope he stays true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭_Bella_


    This is just going to increase the cost of healthcare for the average american.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    What the OP failed to mention is that all Americans must be enrolled in health care insurance provided by a for-profit insurance corporation, or suffer penalties? This is not socialized medicine, but rather capitalized medicine.

    In fairness, This was a hard enough sell. I don't think Obama is in a position to roll out the American equivelant of the NHS just yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    _Bella_ wrote: »
    This is just going to increase the cost of healthcare for the average american.
    How exactly ?

    America spends $7,290 per person on health care each year. That is 16% of their GDP.

    France spends $3,601 per person on health care each year. Or 11% of their GDP. That is half the cost of the American model.

    Are you really saying that the health plan the American government provides its people is superior to the protection given by the French government ?

    If you are going to make bull**** claims at least be able to back them up.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Reed Big Store


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    How exactly ?

    America spends $7,290 per person on health care each year. That is 16% of their GDP.

    France spends $3,601 per person on health care each year. Or 11% of their GDP. That is half the cost of the American model.

    Are you really saying that the health plan the American government provides its people is superior to the protection given by the French government ?

    If you are going to make bull**** claims at least be able to back them up.

    I think he meant their individual premiums would increase since they're now all obliged to buy in one way or another


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    I think his threat was to impose himself on the good folk of Costa Rica

    He's only saying that because they have cheap Viagra and Oxycotin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    bluewolf wrote: »
    I think he meant their individual premiums would increase since they're now all obliged to buy in one way or another
    Which is why they need more regulation not less. Also with economies of scale increasing the insurance companies profits they will be able to lower prices even futher. Thus cheaper health protection.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Reed Big Store


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Which is why they need more regulation not less. Also with economies of scale increasing the insurance companies will be able to lower prices even futher. Thus cheaper health protection.
    That's a tad bit different to "wanting to", particularly when you're talking about for-profit insurance companies who now know that everyone HAS to buy from them :)
    premiums up, profits up
    they'll have to start making up for the "can't kick people off their policy for getting sick" and "can't exclude 'pre-existing conditions' anymore" 'losses'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    bluewolf wrote: »
    That's a tad bit different to "wanting to", particularly when you're talking about for-profit insurance companies who now know that everyone HAS to buy from them :)
    premiums up, profits up
    they'll have to start making up for the "can't kick people off their policy for getting sick" and "can't exclude 'pre-existing conditions' anymore" 'losses'
    Hence the greater regulation to force them to lower premiums.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Reed Big Store


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Hence the greater regulation to force them to lower premiums.

    why are you suddenly talking about regulation here, I never said they should have less?
    I can't imagine them having that kinda regulation for a good while anyway, getting this reform passed was enough of a hurdle.
    so the original quote from bella
    This is just going to increase the cost of healthcare for the average american.
    seems quite apt to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    bluewolf wrote: »
    why are you suddenly talking about regulation here, I never said they should have less?
    Suddenly ? I've been talking about regulation since the start:
    Which is why they need more regulation not less. Also with economies of scale increasing the insurance companies profits they will be able to lower prices even futher. Thus cheaper health protection.
    bluewolf wrote: »
    I can't imagine them having that kinda regulation for a good while anyway, getting this reform passed was enough of a hurdle.
    so the original quote from bella
    seems quite apt to me
    Which is exactly why I said we need more regulation in response to Bellas quote.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    GObama, GObama!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    A real shot in the arm for Obama.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Sherman Tank forum?


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