RAW 22/03/10 *Spoilers* dont say what is happening on TNA

JP Liz V1

WWE Hall of Famer Pete Rose hosts the final edition of Monday Night Raw before WrestleMania

Triple H teams with Randy Orton to battle their respective WrestleMania opponents Sheamus, Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase

waltersobchak

Think ill watch iMPACT tonight, why would anyone want to watch Pete Rose guest hosting Raw??

Mitch Connor

waltersobchak wrote: »

Think ill watch iMPACT tonight, why would anyone want to watch Pete Rose guest hosting Raw??

well they watched Sharon and Ozzie, and Jerry Springer, and countless other terrible hosts.

waltersobchak

Mitch Connor wrote: »

well they watched Sharon and Ozzie, and Jerry Springer, and countless other terrible hosts.

Ah touche, but now they have a choice

D2D

Tonight's Raw could be hit or miss imo.

jaykhunter

I'd expect RAW to be really heavy on the promo packages and in-ring promos; to finalise the storylines for Mania. It usually does a good rating but also usually a poor show.

I'm def more interested in iMPACT this week but overall Mania has had one of the best buildups in years...prob since Batista/HHH at WM21... Can't wait to see what they come up with

Gerard.C

Raw should be good tonight, its the last show before Mania in fairness.

And I'll give Pete Rose a chance, who would have thought Shatner was going to be that good!?

waltersobchak

jaykhunter wrote: »

I'd expect RAW to be really heavy on the promo packages and in-ring promos; to finalise the storylines for Mania. It usually does a good rating but also usually a poor show.

I'm def more interested in iMPACT this week but overall Mania has had one of the best buildups in years...prob since Batista/HHH at WM21... Can't wait to see what they come up with

Absolutely its been a very very solid run up to Mania this year but other than Vince/Bret and Sheamus/HHH id imagine they'll do a lot of the last minute hard sells for the PPV on Smackdown..

jaykhunter

waltersobchak wrote: »

Absolutely been very very solid run up to Mania this year but other than Vince/Bret and Sheamus/HHH id imagine they'll do a lot of the last minute hard sells for the PPV on Smackdown..

I really hope they center SD on Edge vs Jericho; been disappointed with their build-up so far. They need a killer promo segment and storyline punctuation. With all this "spear" talk I forget that the title is on the line

D2D

More than likely, the 10th person will be added to the Money in the Bank match on Raw.

On the Wrestlemania pre-show thing on SKY 743...MVP comes on and says that this Money in the Bank has 10 participants.

waltersobchak

jaykhunter wrote: »

I really hope they center SD on Edge vs Jericho; been disappointed with their build-up so far. They need a killer promo segment and storyline punctuation. With all this "spear" talk I forget that the title is on the line

This whole spear thing being the basis of their fued is F'N ridiculous..

Bounty Hunter

If he wasnt on SD (not that that will def stop them) there almost would have to be interaction between kane & Rose.

waltersobchak

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

If he wasnt on SD (not that that will def stop them) there almost would have to be interaction between kane & Rose.

I think WWE.com might have teased that when Rose was first announced so it could be very likely to happen

JP Liz V1

Anyone know if Bret is on?

paddyismaddy

the last raw before mania should be decent enough

chopperbyrne

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Anyone know if Bret is on?

I hope not.

The angle has been set and now it just needs to wait until Mania.

D2D

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Anyone know if Bret is on?

Nope, I don't think so. Accor to his blog on his facebook, he doesn't mention he'll be at Raw at all

Degag

I'd be surprised if Bret wasn't on RAW tonight since it's the last one before Mania...

DM_7

Isnt it a triple taping tonight? EDIT: Quadruple, Superstars too!

RAW, NXT and Smackdown. They will be tight enough for time I assume.

For anyone that didn't see it this weeks smackdown, on sky sports 3 is titled Smackdown Presents the Road To Wrestlemania

This makes me think Smackdown may be more focused on the promo's and highlight packages than RAW will be.

RAW should be good

Oh and the Pete Rose thing.

Rose>Russo :cool:

Angron

Please let Kane be there!

Rjd2

Denny M wrote: »

Please let Kane be there!

I would be 100% sure that Kane and all the other MITB dudes will be on the final Raw before Mania.

Rjd2

Its on at 1am as well folks with the time change in yankland on SS3.

AdyUCC

Dare_2_defy wrote:

More than likely, the 10th person will be added to the Money in the Bank match on Raw.

On the Wrestlemania pre-show thing on SKY 743...MVP comes on and says that this Money in the Bank has 10 participants.

Almost certain that this will be Kofi Kingston. He's clearly not injured and it would be a shame if they weren't to use him at all. He's also a potential winner, with only christian looking likely at the moment. Although I'm still hoping for a big MVP push!!

CMpunked

And Here we go!....





Good to see HBK opening.
Who is pete rose?

gerrybbadd

Kofi was always gonna qualify there.

gerrybbadd

So, Bret will be on Raw..... good times:D

CMpunked

Seamus got a clean win?!

:eek:

Mr.Nice Guy

Been an OK show so far. That 'Be Yourself' song has to be the crappiest Mania song ever.

Rjd2

Batista as a heel is so full of win..:o

Mr.Nice Guy

Oh dear they're chanting 'You can't wrestle' at Cena and he's twice the worker Dave is. Idiots.

Super-Rush

Who were the fans chanting "you can't wrestle" to?

JP Liz V1

super-rush wrote: »

Who were the fans chanting "you can't wrestle" to?

I thought it was at Dave

davrho

At least they were chanting and not sitting in silence like some other promo's over the last few weeks. A reaction is better of any type is better than no one caring.

Not a bad show but as expected it was a huge advert for Sunday.

Highlight for me was Batista's promo. Good to see Seamus win clean in a match that was better than i expected.

What was the point in that Diva's match?

Looking forward to Sunday. This year has been set up well.

SlickRic

Orton was f*cking slick when he came in and cleared house off the tag.

really seamless i thought.

it disappointed me that he got beaten with one offensive move though, even though it got Sheamus a much needed clean win.

Bret's promo was awkward enough i thought, and fans still don't really care. Vince's emergence rescued the heat.

Batista as a heel is really growing on me. man, think of the years we could have had with him as THIS character.

the HBK/Kane match with the Undertaker interference was brilliantly done. a complete act of defiance on HBK's part. it did its job in making be believe that little bit more that he could win on Sunday. it even throws a spanner in the myth 'whoever gets the upper hand on Raw loses on PPV' because both men made a strong case. a huge part of me wants the match to main event Wrestlemania.

the traditional side of me still reckons it should be one of the title matches.

Angron

Wow, what they did with Kane/Pete Rose didn't look weird at all.. "Your luck has change, huh?" before dragging him into the changing room..

I liked what I saw of HHH/Orton v Sheamus/Legacy, though I just saw what they had on the WWE website.
Orton seems to be getting a good reaction from the crowd, has he gone face without me realising? I know Legacy are being played as heel, but I wasn't aware that Orton had switched.

I liked Miz v Morrison too, I thought the banter between Show and Truth at the announce table was funny.
"He got lucky"
"It's not luck son, that's skill"

SlickRic

Denny M wrote: »

Orton seems to be getting a good reaction from the crowd, has he gone face without me realising? I know Legacy are being played as heel, but I wasn't aware that Orton had switched.

he's in possible transition.

i don't think WWE are committed to the switch yet.

He's actually getting more of a pop now for his in-ring work than he is necessarily for his entrance, or his promos, or anything like that. it's can just be so slick and believable.

in fact he still gets booed during his promos from what i can see.

for me, he's a heel all day long, and a face switch would be very difficult to make work. people who cheer him enjoy it's mannerisms, and commitment Orton gives to the character.

DO NOT TURN HIM FACE!

the task is for WWE to give him some faces to come against that are believable.

Angron

SlickRic wrote: »

he's in possible transition.

i don't think WWE are committed to the switch yet.

He's actually getting more of a pop now for his in-ring work than he is necessarily for his entrance, or his promos, or anything like that. it's can just be so slick and believable.

in fact he still gets booed during his promos from what i can see.

for me, he's a heel all day long, and a face switch would be very difficult to make work. people who cheer him enjoy it's mannerisms, and commitment Orton gives to the character.

DO NOT TURN HIM FACE!

the task is for WWE to give him some faces to come against that are believable.

Yeah, I've found Orton a far more believable heel than face. He's one of the better heels in the WWE. But he is pretty slick with his moves, like when he was delivering those scoop slams, and his trademark backbreaker.

Rjd2

davrho wrote: »

What was the point in that Diva's match?

.

Their rarely ever is a point to any Divas match on Raw, what makes you think this may have been an exception.?:pac:

Hopefully they don't waste time at Mania by inserting one of silly cluster**** tag matches either.
The opening segment was solid, they haven't really emphasised the significance of HBK career potentially coming to an end so at least they tried to do that before Mania.

Show was fantastic on commentary and I enjoyed the Miz/Morrison match. I still think it’s a cert that that Showmiz will win, but they have tried to get over Jo Mo/Truth as serious contenders to the tag belts, something which should be applauded.

Kofi v Kozlov was a nothing match, Kozlov will be lucky to last till Christmas. :pac:

The handicap match was ok, and it was the right result, although I still maintain Ted is nowhere near as charismatic as Cody. Ted speaking on the mic before the match was very lifeless, while Cody was much more natural.

Bret tried his best with his promo and he had some nice lines about his and Vince's family but nobody cared until Vince came out.

The final segment was fantastic; Dave is so awesome as a heel. I actually want him to retain his title at Mania and hold it for a few months, until possibly Summerslam where Cena or someone else finally dethrones him.
Those people chanting you can’t wrestle at Cena need a time machine to send them back to 2006 ASAP though.:rolleyes:


Oh and

"I don't see people. I see money, money, money, money, money. Dollar signs, dollar signs, dollar signs, dollar signs. Some have more money, some have less. I see a lot of fat people and you have to pay for 2 seats, so thank you. Thank you for your money."

SlickRic

Rjd2 wrote: »

"I don't see people. I see money, money, money, money, money. Dollar signs, dollar signs, dollar signs, dollar signs. Some have more money, some have less. I see a lot of fat people and you have to pay for 2 seats, so thank you. Thank you for your money."

the single greatest thing that's come out of his mouth.

that whole 'thank you for your money' bit was utterly brilliant.

DM_7

SlickRic wrote: »

he's in possible transition.

i don't think WWE are committed to the switch yet.

He's actually getting more of a pop now for his in-ring work than he is necessarily for his entrance, or his promos, or anything like that. it's can just be so slick and believable.

in fact he still gets booed during his promos from what i can see.

for me, he's a heel all day long, and a face switch would be very difficult to make work. people who cheer him enjoy it's mannerisms, and commitment Orton gives to the character.

DO NOT TURN HIM FACE!

the task is for WWE to give him some faces to come against that are believable.

Hmmmm...

I think he as spent so much time as a heel there is little left for him to do as one. He has the experience to be a big time face now. WWE need a realistic persona as a face on RAW. It seems to be working for edge on smackdown.

HHH is also due a heel turn, HBK will be going missing for a while so there is an opening. There is also time to make the change while Cena and Batista continue the feud they have.

waltersobchak

SlickRic wrote: »

he's in possible transition.

i don't think WWE are committed to the switch yet.

He's actually getting more of a pop now for his in-ring work than he is necessarily for his entrance, or his promos, or anything like that. it's can just be so slick and believable.

in fact he still gets booed during his promos from what i can see.

for me, he's a heel all day long, and a face switch would be very difficult to make work. people who cheer him enjoy it's mannerisms, and commitment Orton gives to the character.

DO NOT TURN HIM FACE!

the task is for WWE to give him some faces to come against that are believable.

The thing about Orton is his character works so well as a heel because its basically just an extension of who he is in real life.. which is bit of an arrogant ahole.. I just cant see him as a convincing out and out face

chopperbyrne

Anyone know what the ratings were for both shows?

Rjd2

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Anyone know what the ratings were for both shows?

Not out yet, although around ten or 11 the main sites should have them.

G-Money

Loved Big Dave's promo, very entertaining. He's came on an awful lot on the mic recently. Excellent work Dave.

sky88

batista is just awesome since turning heel his promo last night was great on the other hand cenas promos seem to be getting more and more scripted and imo worse

G-Money

Legacy's promo was woeful. There was one line where Ted DiBiase said something like Orton would be exposed as "arrogant and shameful" or some rubbish like that. I was thinking "who gives a f**k?" That's the problem with WWE promo's sometimes. They throw in this other stuff that doesn't seem to matter, doesn't make sense and no-one gives a s**t about.

Vince135792003

Last night was a steady show.

To use a teaching analogy, it's the 20 minutes you do at the end of the day to revise what you hope was learned. Nothing very exciting but more valuable than trying to do something new late in the day.

They let everyone know when Wrestlemania was. They reminded you of the big matches and they put over how big the show would be. Job done.

Just on Cena, I really don't like his promos. They come across so cheesey and insincere to me.

JP Liz V1

How many times was Cena/Batista match hyped on about :rolleyes:

The problem with Ted and Cody now is no one cares about them or their match tbh the writers left their turn on Orton way too late to happen

Gerard.C

The build to Cena and Batista has been unbelieveable. Batista as a heel is brilliant, he is so hateable. The promo at the end of raw was immense

krudler

Am actually liking Batista as a heel, he bores me to tears as a face, but he's been on another level these past few weeks

Rjd2

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

How many times was Cena/Batista match hyped on about :rolleyes:

It was the last Raw before Mania and its the match that will probably bring in the most buys, they were right to hype the hell out of it at any given opportunity.