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is 35 years of age too late to immigrate? No job prospecst here

  • 21-03-2010 10:58pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2


    am living down south - renting, in good job but ****E pay(entertainment industry), single, no kids, own 4000 for old bank loan, parents getting old, finding in difficult to break into a good paying job in Ireland. am pretty tuned in...never without work...

    received citizenship to new zealand.

    should i go? is 35 too old - lived there for 4 years in my 20's so have mates there. what about a pension/house etc..
    all my mates think i am mad to move and that i should be settling down to get an affordable house and say in my job.
    TORN!?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    booboo2010 wrote: »
    entertainment industry
    How is the recession affecting your sector? See many being laid off?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    booboo2010 wrote: »
    should i go? is 35 too old

    Age is just a number.

    Go to NZ. Worst case scenario it doesn't work out and you have to return to Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    booboo2010 wrote: »
    am living down south - renting, in good job but ****E pay(entertainment industry), single, no kids, own 4000 for old bank loan, parents getting old, finding in difficult to break into a good paying job in Ireland. am pretty tuned in...never without work...

    received citizenship to new zealand.

    should i go? is 35 too old - lived there for 4 years in my 20's so have mates there. what about a pension/house etc..
    all my mates think i am mad to move and that i should be settling down to get an affordable house and say in my job.
    TORN!?

    Honest answer? Feck your mates... are they going to pay for your house and lifestyle? What you find when you come up with an idea like this is people become very selfish. How exactly do they know what's best for you?

    At the moment I am desprately trying to save so I can go to NZ next year, I haven't worked in a long time and I cannot seem to find any jobs here at all. So off to NZ I hope to go. If it works out and I get a job, then so be it, if not then I come home.

    35 is not too old for anything, you will meet new friends so I wouldn't worry about that. The possibility of returning home in the future is still there. Maybe just go until this recession ends? That could be 5+ years though. Would there be work for you in NZ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    I'm 30 and in similar situation. However, one of my parents is ill so if I move that far away I don't know if I will ever see them again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭thirtythirty


    Emmm....perhaps source a good paying job over there before you up and leave!?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Maybe your friends aren't taking you seriously because you don't know the difference between immigrate and emigrate.

    Seriously though just go for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭kmick


    Go for it. Only ensure you check out before you go how much your job pays out there. Dont want to travel half way around the world and find out is just as badly paid out there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Emmm....perhaps source a good paying job over there before you up and leave!?

    +100. Be 100% sure you can get a job in your chosen sector before you go. In my opinion the only thing 35 is too old for is slumming it abroad, doing whatever you can to get money.

    Are you sure there are jobs there?

    Once your sure you can get a decent job then by all means go. Though I would pay off that loan before you go and aim to have a few grand in the back pocket. Moving is epensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭shoegirl


    I am 37 and after hanging onto my job for last 2 years now discover I'm to be laid off in a couple of months. 35 isn't too old, but most countries heavily discriminate against the over 35s so you won't get this opportunity again. Very few countries are easy on the over 35s so my opportunities outside of maybe Canada are very limited, though I'd love to go to Australia, but realistically unless they really do change the system to benefit graduates more, its unlikely.

    Give it a god and see how things go. I'd love to be in your position. Good luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭billybigunz


    Age is just a number.

    So I can marry a ten year old then? Or live to 500?


    Your age is your age.


    Emigrating at that age is risky. Could work out, could set you back even worse off. You will have a better idea of the risks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭dazzlermac


    So I can marry a ten year old then? Or live to 500?


    Your age is your age.


    Emigrating at that age is risky. Could work out, could set you back even worse off. You will have a better idea of the risks.

    why would ya want to marry a ten year old???????go for it u aint to old........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 booboo2010


    thanks for replies. i dont have time to save lots of money and pay off loan as am renting and dont have any other choice.
    in my opinion over 35 to get a mortgage in ireland is not happening. all my friends have mortgages since 20's. i would be paying it off till my 60-70's
    am single - who will pay my mortgage when i am old??
    much more oppertunities in nz for sure - entertainment industry there is much more theatre/outdoor events based - not many egos either compared to small cathlic ireland
    i would be shunned should i ever return in my 40's to ireland wth no kids mortgage, car etc...
    you know how irish people are like


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭billybigunz


    booboo2010 wrote: »
    thanks for replies. i dont have time to save lots of money and pay off loan as am renting and dont have any other choice.
    in my opinion over 35 to get a mortgage in ireland is not happening. all my friends have mortgages since 20's. i would be paying it off till my 60-70's
    am single - who will pay my mortgage when i am old??
    much more oppertunities in nz for sure - entertainment industry there is much more theatre/outdoor events based - not many egos either compared to small cathlic ireland
    i would be shunned should i ever return in my 40's to ireland wth no kids mortgage, car etc...
    you know how irish people are like

    Careful with that attitude. Many a proud Irish man has spent 30 years living rough in London rather than feel any shame coming home.


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    booboo2010 wrote: »
    thanks for replies. i dont have time to save lots of money and pay off loan as am renting and dont have any other choice.
    in my opinion over 35 to get a mortgage in ireland is not happening. all my friends have mortgages since 20's. i would be paying it off till my 60-70's
    am single - who will pay my mortgage when i am old??
    much more oppertunities in nz for sure - entertainment industry there is much more theatre/outdoor events based - not many egos either compared to small cathlic ireland
    i would be shunned should i ever return in my 40's to ireland wth no kids mortgage, car etc...
    you know how irish people are like

    Would the pay be any better in New Zealand? Your age will be a factor in any mortgage you get but consider that if you save hard between now and the time you hit 40 you could get a 20 yr mortgage on something here or NZ.

    Dont worry about being shunned when/if you return we are learning a harsh lesson about mortgages/property booms & busts and people will change their minds on renting over the next few years.

    Property still has a long way to drop in price, have a look at the daftwatch link in my sig - I assume you heard that there are approx 350,000 empty properties in the state? Not including holiday homes!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    So I can marry a ten year old then? Or live to 500?

    I think there is a slight difference between emigrating at 35 and marrying a 10 year old/living to 500.

    People who live their life in fear have a very boring life... Emigrating at 35 is a small risk, and worth it IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭majiktripp


    I know someone who emigrated to NZ when in their early thirties, and they got on fine! Have a nice house, married with solid job and are now a permanent citizen. NZ work pay is not that bad to be honest, when I was their for a year working in a call centre I was getting $18 an hour, which is about €9 so not bad at all, and considering (Well for me personally) they have a better way of life and seem more content with what they have, rather than what they havent got, I think the OP will find he will settle in just fine once he get's there and adjusts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭CorkFenian


    I'm 34 and would be seriously considering emigrating next year to Oz,Nz...This talk of being too old is absolute rubbish, really it makes me laugh...Typical Irish thing....How is 34-37 too old, if you are doing skilled graduate work i.e not picking fruit???Some of the people on this site are just wishing their lives away IMHO...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭saol alainn


    booboo2010 wrote: »
    am living down south - renting, in good job but ****E pay(entertainment industry), single, no kids, own 4000 for old bank loan, parents getting old, finding in difficult to break into a good paying job in Ireland. am pretty tuned in...never without work...

    received citizenship to new zealand.

    should i go? is 35 too old - lived there for 4 years in my 20's so have mates there. what about a pension/house etc..
    all my mates think i am mad to move and that i should be settling down to get an affordable house and say in my job.
    TORN!?

    Go. Two of the most miserable words in the world are "what if...". If you feel the time's right and it's constantly nagging you, go for it.

    We came over in our early forties, and with a young son. The only regret I have is signing on the dotted line for a mortgage in early '07. Otherwise we're where we want to be, even if money is tight at the moment.

    Just remember that nothing is set in stone. You could always come back if you become miserable for some reason. Which I'm sure won't happen, but anyway... Who cares what people say? It's your life and you're the one who has to live it.

    Good luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    I've emigrated 4 times in my life, at 23, 24, 31 and finally 44 (to Ireland!), and whilst at no stage did I consider myself too old (I may well end up doing it again at this rate) the only thing to consider is that as time goes by and you accumulate more 'stuff' the physical act of moving an entire household from one country to another can get a bit more difficult, not to mention expensive. Other than that, just do it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭who_ru


    i'm 37 and seriously considering it, but not to NZ or Oz but a shorter trip across the water. been on short term contracts nearly 2 years now and just going around in circles, it seems contract work is the only type of work available in irekand right now, all permanent positions are either on hold or not happening at all, although i gather the IT sector is doing ok. i work for a multi national making API and it's just been lay offs all across the sector these last few years, when the patent is up on a number of products i think we will see a lot of these companies shut up shop here and relocate to cheaper economies. we have well and truly shot ourselves in the foot here with high wages and a high cost of living and doing business.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    booboo2010 wrote: »
    am living down south - renting, in good job but ****E pay(entertainment industry), single, no kids, own 4000 for old bank loan, parents getting old, finding in difficult to break into a good paying job in Ireland. am pretty tuned in...never without work...

    received citizenship to new zealand.

    should i go? is 35 too old - lived there for 4 years in my 20's so have mates there. what about a pension/house etc..
    all my mates think i am mad to move and that i should be settling down to get an affordable house and say in my job.
    TORN!?

    Have you received actual Citizenship? If so you can go and come as you want as a Citizen like Irish people return back here. If you have got a visa or something leading to citizenship I'd say run and grab the opportunity you are not too old and Ireland is going to get far far worse before things start to get any bit better. It is better to have tried and failed than pondering what never was. I wish I had your opportunity! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭maninasia


    Do you know what the retirement age will be for you in Ireland, at the minimum 68 years old! So you've probably got another 25 odd years work in you...what ya worrying about! BTW the way as my name suggests I live in Asia, there are many many countries you can go to around the world...it's a big old place...not only the ones that crop up here...Oz, Canada, NZ...there's much more than that...
    Lastly it's not a permanent thing..you could move back...move somewhere else....don't get yourself worked up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭toomevara


    Never too late to leave. I left Ireland, changed career at 34, at the height of the boom. everyone told me I was mad/ crazy on crack etc... Not to be too smug about it, but they aint laughin' now. Best thing I ever did, as long as you've done a bit of research and are prepared to work hard, and work through the inevitable initial teething difficulties....I regularly return to ireland and its depressing to watch the slowly unfolding national catastrophe. If I were you I'd go...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭LeSageMignon


    booboo2010 wrote: »
    thanks for replies. i dont have time to save lots of money and pay off loan as am renting and dont have any other choice.
    in my opinion over 35 to get a mortgage in ireland is not happening. all my friends have mortgages since 20's. i would be paying it off till my 60-70's
    am single - who will pay my mortgage when i am old??
    much more oppertunities in nz for sure - entertainment industry there is much more theatre/outdoor events based - not many egos either compared to small cathlic ireland
    i would be shunned should i ever return in my 40's to ireland wth no kids mortgage, car etc...
    you know how irish people are like

    Stop worrying about what other people think! Up here in the big shmoke no-one I know would give a sh*t whether or not a person is single or has a mortgage in their 30s/40s/any age. In fact many of my mates would rather not have a spouse or mortgage, as it's rather boring, predictable and passé ;)

    Also New Zealand offers a good quality of life compared with here (more activities to partake of and cheaper cost of living), except Auckland, which I personally don't like.

    Maybe contact some job agencies there and suss it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 267 ✭✭esharknz


    If you have a New Zealand passport, you can also work/live in Australia indefinitely, as long as you haven't been sentenced to the slammer for more than 12 months.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    esharknz wrote: »
    If you have a New Zealand passport, you can also work/live in Australia indefinitely, as long as you haven't been sentenced to the slammer for more than 12 months.

    Yes Australia and New Zealand have a similar system like the Common Travel area that exists between Ireland the UK except theres is stricter and they can refuse you on grounds of a Criminal record and passports are required for travel between both countries unlike the ROI and UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Moved here when i was 35. Worked out fine.

    Issues, though, would be the debt: 4000 is a lot to owe when you have no definite job in NZ. I''d source the mates and try to find some leads for a job as soon as you can. Remember, you won't be able to claim welfare over there. Also, are you sure you can earn more money over there than here? How happy (or unhappy) are you with the other elements of your life here?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Moved here when i was 35. Worked out fine.

    Issues, though, would be the debt: 4000 is a lot to owe when you have no definite job in NZ. I''d source the mates and try to find some leads for a job as soon as you can. Remember, you won't be able to claim welfare over there. Also, are you sure you can earn more money over there than here? How happy (or unhappy) are you with the other elements of your life here?

    As a citizen surely he would have the same rights as people born there!

    I agree you should line up job before you go if possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Tail Wagger


    Listen, hopefully you have a passport ?

    I don't even know why you'r asking,

    I wish I only owed €4,000 and had what you had, going for me, and what you have?

    Book the flight and get to be fcuked away, you can still read about all the misery we're living in over here.

    Go! Go! Go!


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