need a little help with an '89 peugeot

ShevY

I just got an old 10-speed racer which had been in my brothers shed for a number of years. Its a little rusty but I'd like to do some training on it. It needs a little work to get it going. I've ordered a couple of 700x28c tyres and some 700x25-32c tubes. The wheels are fairly rusty on the rim where the brake pad makes contact and on the inside of the rim.

I took off the wheels, the hubs dont seem to turn all that freely and upon closer inspection I think it needs new bearings. So I opened up the hub expecting some kind of sealed bearing cartridge but I found loose bearings, approx. 10 on each side of the hub. Is it likely there is a cartridge type that will fit here instead, seems easier.

I wouldnt mind getting new wheels but i'm not really sure what i'm doing.
Could anyone tell me would these fit? http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=31957

My wheels had what appeared under the rust to be "28/1-5/8/1-1/8 700c '89"
stamped on them.

Now bear in mind I know little about bikes, pardon the pun, and thanks!

victorcarrera

ShevY wrote: »

... Is it likely there is a cartridge type that will fit here instead, seems easier.
I wouldnt mind getting new wheels but i'm not really sure what i'm doing.
Could anyone tell me would these fit? http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=31957

That link doesn't work for me but I assume it is for a cartridge bearing which is not suitable for your cup and cone hubs.
If the bearing surfaces are not scored I would try cleaning, greasing and reassembling the bearings. Note you may have dismantled the front hub with ordinary spanners but you will need special cone spanners to adjust the bearing. Use the grease to hold the ball bearings in the cups on reassemby. Remove a cone on one side only of each axle so your wheel alignment is preserved.
Lift off existing rim tape and ensure spoke holes on rim are solid and not excessively corroded. You might need new cloth rim tape to prevent punctures.
If the rust is excessive maybe consider new wheels. Planet x model B or C 110Euro, Mavic Aksium 80Euro a set.

gman2k

Yeah, I went through this with my Peugeot I'm doing up.
Because you have a 5 speed cassette on the rear, getting a new wheel is not as easy as it sounds. Maybe you should drop into Rothar and see if they have anything in stock?
In my case the wheels were junked, badly corroded at the rims/ spokes, and they had previously seized up way back in the day.......
Also, my wheels/ cassette were a Heliomatic fitting, which, even back in the 80's, was hard to get hold of.
So I got new wheels - 130mm spacing (ps your frame is prob 126), but the 4 mm difference will be ok.
So I upgraded my drive train to 8 speed, which even though I've bought the stuff cheaply, it does mean a bit of work!

Also, if a bike has been sitting up for so long, it's probably going to need new cables throughout, and the chain is probably junked by now also. All other bearings - headset and BB etc should be removed, cleaned, regreased etc.

SubLuminal

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Categories.aspx?CategoryID=985

cheap wheels

gman2k

SubLuminal wrote: »

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Categories.aspx?CategoryID=985

cheap wheels

They are all 26" MTB wheels
This is what you want

SubLuminal

touche

ShevY

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=31957

thats the link from my original post, should work now. So you reckon i'll get the frame to squeeze around that 130mm wheel with a little persuasion. gman, i see in your peugeot post that you did the upgrade to a modern 8-speed drivetrain. I dont mind a bit of work, but im not sure of all the bits i need to buy and what it will amount to. what did your upgrade cost you?

thanks

gman2k

ShevY wrote: »

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=31957

thats the link from my original post, should work now. So you reckon i'll get the frame to squeeze around that 130mm wheel with a little persuasion. gman, i see in your peugeot post that you did the upgrade to a modern 8-speed drivetrain. I dont mind a bit of work, but im not sure of all the bits i need to buy and what it will amount to. what did your upgrade cost you?

thanks

Sorry about the links, getting lazy

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=45318
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=6254
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=37287
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=45073
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=1864
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=21295
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=27251
http://grahamweighcycles.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=62&products_id=385
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Campagnolo-Fit-111mm-Carbon-Shell-Bottom-Bracket_W0QQitemZ250598107916QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR?hash=item3a58cfab0c#ht_696wt_936


Plus other bits and pieces needed yet, cables, pedals, tape etc,
I
So as you can see, I've basically just kept the frame from the Peugeot and both nearly everything new!
I have 105 brakes from before, and aero levers, the shimano 600 front mech is staying, and a stem is coming from another bike due an upgrade!
I know the bike is not worth what I've spent on it, but it'll be back in the land of the living!

ShevY

Ok, thanks for the help.

Anyway, ive decided not to change much on this bike. although I got it for free, its not really woth spending much on.

€100 euro is the max I want to spend. Ive already gotten the bearings done in both wheels. The bars will be fine with some new tape. I'm gonna keep the original derailleurs, brakes+levers, Now Ive decided to spray the frame, I've it sanded down at the moment.
Ive taken off the chainset(52/42), the BB says 1.37"x24 tpi, so thats british standard right?

So I was going to buy this BB and chainset from CRC, because id like to fit standard 9/16" pedals. The current pedals are 1/2" and rusted away.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=29778

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=908

Does this look compatible to ye?

Also, will this chain work on the 5 speed cassette I have at the back?

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=11286

Thanks

HappyHarry

ShevY wrote: »

Ok, thanks for the help.

Anyway, ive decided not to change much on this bike. although I got it for free, its not really woth spending much on.

€100 euro is the max I want to spend. Ive already gotten the bearings done in both wheels. The bars will be fine with some new tape. I'm gonna keep the original derailleurs, brakes+levers, Now Ive decided to spray the frame, I've it sanded down at the moment.
Ive taken off the chainset(52/42), the BB says 1.37"x24 tpi, so thats british standard right?

So I was going to buy this BB and chainset from CRC, because id like to fit standard 9/16" pedals. The current pedals are 1/2" and rusted away.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=29778

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=908

Does this look compatible to ye?

Also, will this chain work on the 5 speed cassette I have at the back?

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=11286

Thanks

I went through something similar recently, needed to get a bike that had been laying the the shed for several years back on the road. My advice to you is to PM Mr Skeffington.

He is a top class bike mechanic that does some work from home. He has the tools and small parts. He is a pretty serious competitive cyclist too so knows what he is doing.

I was over with him last night, and can't speak highly enough of the way he treated my old run-about. At a very reasonable cost too, I dread to think what a bike shop would have charged! My bike has a completely new lease of life. Brakes, gears, bottom bracket, wheel hubs all tended to, missing and damaged parts replaced.

He will also tell you what he is doing, why he is doing it, and how to do it yourself.

I'm sure he would advise you of what parts to get, and then fit them and service the bike too. You probably need to buy tool to go working on the bottom bracket?

ShevY

Unfortunately Mr Skeffington is in Dublin and I'm in Cork.

Im quite keen to learn to do this myself, just dont want to end up buying incompatible parts. I think ill need something like this to fit the bb http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/images/tlp02a.jpg

im just gonna take a chance and buy a chain

rflynnr

Perhaps I missed something but are you planning on using the old cassette? Because unless it a) was never used much in the first place and b) was stored in more or less vacuum-like conditions, it's likely to have suffered some oxidation. On this particular score, I'd walk into your local bike shop with the wheel and tell them you want a new five-speed cassette and matching chain. (Neither need be particularly expensive.) Note that five-speeds will be a fairly rare commodity these days and you may have to take a six speed (also rare though not quite as much). This in turn will involve establishing whether your gear shifters can accommodate six speeds.